Here are a few things I have noticed. Remember, I am using Old World macs.... I added the MacOS patition, /dev/hda6, under YaST. However, when I checked the directory, which I labeled /macos, I found the text file about "Where did all the files go?". So, I looked at /etc/fstab, and the filesystem type was "hfs". I changed it to "hfs+", and was given an error when I tried to remount it. I changed the filesystem type to "hfsplus" and when I remounted it this time it worked fine. I went back into YaST's partitioner and checked to see if there was an option for the Apple HFS+ filesystem, and it only listed 1 Apple filesystem type. Do I need to use the ramdisk image to boot the system with an updated kernel? When I uncheck the ramdisk option, and input sda3 as my root device, I get a kernel panic because it can't find the root device. I am assuming that it is not loading the Adaptec SCSI module for some reason. Checking the "Force SCSI" option does not work as well. I have found that since I used YOU to update the kernel that the installation system no longer comes up when I boot using the newer ramdisk, so I don't know if it is a big deal about using the ramsdisk or not. I have 384MB, and I have a good deal of free RAM available. One thing I have noticed is that the USB drivers seem to be loaded before the SCSI drivers using the installation system. It seems that the USB drive gets labeled /dev/sda and the SCSI drive gets bumped to /dev/sdb. After updating my kernel with YOU, It properly loads the adaptec driver and sees /dev/sda3 properly. Perhaps a warning should be given during installation when USB and SCSI drives are detected. I realize that the majority of systems out there use IDE, but there are still many of us that prefer the dependability and speed of SCSI. I realize that a lot of devices are made to look like SCSI in Linux as well as WinDoZe, but it seems there would be a more intelligent way to set this up.... Also, I think I had brought this up once before. Why is it that when I am running under KDE, I have to use "control open-apple Fx" to get to a text terminal, but when I am on a text terminal, I use the standard "control alt Fx" key combination. I know that KDE has an option to edit the key combos, but can this one be modified? It would be nice to have the regular combo all the time. Thanx ___________________________________________________ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
On Tue, Dec 20, larrystotler@netscape.net wrote:
I added the MacOS patition, /dev/hda6, under YaST. However, when I checked the directory, which I labeled /macos, I found the text file about "Where did all the files go?". So, I looked at /etc/fstab, and the filesystem type was "hfs". I changed it to "hfs+", and was given an error when I tried to remount it. I changed the filesystem type to "hfsplus" and when I remounted it this time it worked fine. I went back into YaST's partitioner and checked to see if there was an option for the Apple HFS+ filesystem, and it only listed 1 Apple filesystem type.
YaST only knows about hfs, not hfsplus.
Do I need to use the ramdisk image to boot the system with an updated kernel? When I uncheck the ramdisk option, and input sda3 as my root device, I get a kernel panic because it can't find the root device. I am assuming that it is not loading the Adaptec SCSI module for some reason. Checking the "Force SCSI" option does not work as well. I have found that since I used YOU to update the kernel that the installation system no longer comes up when I boot using the newer ramdisk, so I don't know if it is a big deal about using the ramsdisk or not. I have 384MB, and I have a good deal of free RAM available.
When the kernel is updated, /boot/vmlinux and /boot/initrd must be copied to the hfs boot partition.
One thing I have noticed is that the USB drivers seem to be loaded before the SCSI drivers using the installation system. It seems that the USB drive gets labeled /dev/sda and the SCSI drive gets bumped to /dev/sdb. After updating my kernel with YOU, It properly loads the adaptec driver and sees /dev/sda3 properly. Perhaps a warning should be given during installation when USB and SCSI drives are detected. I realize that the majority of systems out there use IDE, but there are still many of us that prefer the dependability and speed of SCSI. I realize that a lot of devices are made to look like SCSI in Linux as well as WinDoZe, but it seems there would be a more intelligent way to set this up....
Yes, thats a known problem. For some reason, we like to stick with the kernel names like 'sda' instead of using mount per UUID or persistant device names. Maybe one day it gets changed.
Also, I think I had brought this up once before. Why is it that when I am running under KDE, I have to use "control open-apple Fx" to get to a text terminal, but when I am on a text terminal, I use the standard "control alt Fx" key combination. I know that KDE has an option to edit the key combos, but can this one be modified? It would be nice to have the regular combo all the time.
This is a bug in the kbd package, it needs an update to match what X does. -- short story of a lazy sysadmin: alias appserv=wotan
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From: Olaf Hering
When the kernel is updated, /boot/vmlinux and /boot/initrd must be copied to the hfs boot partition.
I've done some reading on this, and was wondering if it would be nessessary if I built a kernel with all the options as Y instead of modules. I had some problems building kernels under SuSE a while back. Seems that there you guys build some pretty custom kernels, which usually work very well out of the box. I haven't needed to build a kernel for some time, so it's not a big issue. I have noticed some slow speed issues under X with my G3. It has the ATI Rage II card with 6MB SGRAM. Such as when I am playing Patience and win(not often :)), the screen lags on updating. What would be the best option, as faster G3(mine's the 266/512k) or a PCI video card like a Radeon? The problem with a PCI card would be the use of a PCI slot, which are all being used at the moment, but I could pull the 10/100 card if needed. Also, are the ComSlot II ethernet cards supported? I've never been able to get Linux to see mine. I've noticed that the Mac PPC stuff has some weird issues that could be hardware or OF related. I realize that the Old World Macs are probably losing popularity and may get removed as legacy hardware at some point, but it's nice to be able to get some use out of these older machines with my prefered distro at long last. Thanx for all the help. ___________________________________________________ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
On Thu, Dec 22, larrystotler@netscape.net wrote:
I have noticed some slow speed issues under X with my G3. It has the ATI Rage II card with 6MB SGRAM. Such as when I am playing Patience and win(not often :)), the screen lags on updating. What would be the best option, as faster G3(mine's the 266/512k) or a PCI video card like a Radeon? The problem with a PCI card would be the use of a PCI slot, which are all being used at the moment, but I could pull the 10/100 card if needed. Also, are the ComSlot II ethernet cards supported? I've never been able to get Linux to see mine.
I dont know what a ComSlot ethernet card is. According to google perhaps some tulip card. Did you verify that X uses the 'ati' instead of 'fbdev' driver? -- short story of a lazy sysadmin: alias appserv=wotan
On 1/2/06 8:29 AM, "Olaf Hering"
On Thu, Dec 22, larrystotler@netscape.net wrote:
Also, are the ComSlot II ethernet cards supported? I've never been able to get Linux to see mine.
I dont know what a ComSlot ethernet card is. According to google perhaps some tulip card. Did you verify that X uses the 'ati' instead of 'fbdev' driver?
ComSlot is a Communication slot. I remember that from my old Performa 6300 I had many years ago. Just another slot...mine had the modem in it before I pulled it for a ethernet card. There weren't too many brands to chose from. Seems this mac has one too: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g3/stats/powermac_g3_266_dt.h tml -- Thanks, George If Olive oil comes from olives, Corn oil comes from corn, Peanut oil comes from peanuts, Fish oil comes from fish, Where does baby oil come from?
Am 02.01.2006 um 15:18 schrieb george:
ComSlot is a Communication slot. I remember that from my old Performa 6300 I had many years ago.
Just another slot...mine had the modem in it before I pulled it for a ethernet card. There weren't too many brands to chose from.
There were two types called CSI in the older modells (Performa 630) and CSII from Performa 6400 on.
Seems this mac has one too: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g3/stats/ powermac_g3_266_dt.h tml
No, this was a "personality-card" with AV-capability Have a look at the comments: <http://apple-history.com/body.php? page=gallery&model=g3&performa=off&sort=date&order=ASC>
-- Thanks, George
greets Ronny
I dont know what a ComSlot ethernet card is. According to google
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From: Olaf Hering
Did you verify that X uses the 'ati' instead of 'fbdev' driver?
Yes. When I run SaX2, it shows the Mach64 215GT driver is being used. I installed an ATI card on my 7500 with a G3/400, and it wasn't much faster than the onboard FB device, so I am thinking a video card would be a better upgrade. Thanx -- short story of a lazy sysadmin: alias appserv=wotan ___________________________________________________ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
I dont know what a ComSlot ethernet card is. According to google
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