This is slightly off topic, but since I not a mac person at all (got a 7200/90 from someone), I am not sure if I did something wrong or not. This is probably a stupid question, but shouldn't there be a CD-ROM icon on the desktop when I am in MacOS? I am not very familiar with Mac at all.
I had installed PPC 6.4, but recently got 7.3. I just wanted to reinstall using 7.3, but the CD-ROM icon does not show up. I have tried CD1 and CD2, and the CDs from the 6.4 distro, but I do not see the icon. I want to open it so that I can invoke bootx to do the install. The CD-ROM getting found, since I can see it in the "Silverlining" program that shows the SCSI devices. I had even bought another CD-ROM thinking my CD-ROM was bad...but same results.
Am I totally missing something here? I had added some hard drives, but removed them thinking that may have caused it, but no. Does the CD-ROM have to be a specific SCSI ID? I wouldn't think so, but you never know.
system: pmac 7200/90 MacOS 7.5
thanks,
--brett
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On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 06:58:00PM -0800, Brett Schwarz wrote:
This is slightly off topic, but since I not a mac person at all (got a 7200/90 from someone), I am not sure if I did something wrong or not. This is probably a stupid question, but shouldn't there be a CD-ROM icon on the desktop when I am in MacOS? I am not very familiar with Mac at all.
Yes, you should see a CD-ROM icon on the desktop when there is a medium in the drive. CD-ROM support has to be loaded as a system extension, iirc, so check in the extensions control panel first. If you're completely lost, feel free to ask for elaboration in separate mail.
What happens if you put CD1 from 7.3 in the drive, restart the Mac and press Cmd-ctrl-Shift-Backspace immediately after the start sound? This key combination is for skipping the internal hard drives and checking on the SCSI chain for a valid start volume. It should find the CD and try booting from there. On newer machines, pressing 'C' during start-up directly selects the CD-ROM drive.
On second thought, I'd rather try that with the MacOS System CD that should have come with the box. You need to do that to (re)partition the drive anyway.
kind regards
Sonja
On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 06:58:00PM -0800, Brett Schwarz wrote:
This is slightly off topic, but since I not a mac person at all (got a 7200/90 from someone), I am not sure if I did something wrong or not. This is probably a stupid question, but shouldn't there be a CD-ROM icon on the desktop when I am in MacOS? I am not very familiar with Mac at all.
AFAIR MacOS 7.5 has a specific system extension to enable it to read iso9660 CD-ROMs. If that is not present, you won't be able to get the icon on your desktop. Look in the Extensions folder of your System Folder for a file with 9660 in its name. If it's not there, you might be able to install it with the "add stuff" option from your System 7.5 install CD-ROM...
When I think about what I just wrote, I am not sure about it. I can remember I had the same phenonemon on my 7200/90, and could get the CD-ROM seen after I booted with the system extensions disable (holding the shift key down while booting!).
I had installed PPC 6.4, but recently got 7.3. I just wanted to reinstall using 7.3, but the CD-ROM icon does not show up. I have tried CD1 and CD2, and the CDs from the 6.4 distro, but I do not see the icon. I want to open it so that I can invoke bootx to do the install. The CD-ROM getting found, since I can see it in the "Silverlining" program that shows the SCSI devices. I had even bought another CD-ROM thinking my CD-ROM was bad...but same results.
If the Silverlining tool shows the drive, I'd think that the SCSI ids are set up correctly.
Am I totally missing something here? I had added some hard drives, but removed them thinking that may have caused it, but no. Does the CD-ROM have to be a specific SCSI ID? I wouldn't think so, but you never know.
system: pmac 7200/90 MacOS 7.5
thanks,
--brett
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Peter Poeml wrote:
On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 06:58:00PM -0800, Brett Schwarz wrote:
This is slightly off topic, but since I not a mac person at all (got a 7200/90 from someone), I am not sure if I did something wrong or not. This is probably a stupid question, but shouldn't there be a CD-ROM icon on the desktop when I am in MacOS? I am not very familiar with Mac at all.
Only if a CD is present (in the reader) *and* mounted. Otherwise, no icon on the desktop. Please note that (if the OS is ok) the CD icon appears after some time (3 seconds or more: spinup, file system identification/checks, mount).
AFAIR MacOS 7.5 has a specific system extension to enable it to read iso9660 CD-ROMs. If that is not present, you won't be able to get the icon on your desktop. Look in the Extensions folder of your System Folder for a file with 9660 in its name. If it's not there, you might be able to install it with the "add stuff" option from your System 7.5 install CD-ROM...
Right, but you also need 'Apple CD ROM' and 'Foreign File Access' (or something similar). Anyway, I'm (almost) sure that the 6.4 CDs are hybrid (Mac/ISO; info on CD#1 gives "Mac OS Standard Volume"), so you should only need 'Apple CD ROM'.
When I think about what I just wrote, I am not sure about it. I can remember I had the same phenonemon on my 7200/90, and could get the CD-ROM seen after I booted with the system extensions disable (holding the shift key down while booting!).
This can happen if there is a CD in the reader *at startup* (the system loads the driver from the CD, if it finds one). Otherwise, with extensions off you should not see anything (you may use a third party software to mount the CD later, but that's another story).
I had installed PPC 6.4, but recently got 7.3. I just wanted to reinstall using 7.3, but the CD-ROM icon does not show up. I have tried CD1 and CD2, and the CDs from the 6.4 distro, but I do not see the icon. I want to open it so that I can invoke bootx to do the install. The CD-ROM getting found, since I can see it in the "Silverlining" program that shows the SCSI devices. I had even bought another CD-ROM thinking my CD-ROM was bad...but same results.
If the Silverlining tool shows the drive, I'd think that the SCSI ids are set up correctly.
Am I totally missing something here? I had added some hard drives, but removed them thinking that may have caused it, but no. Does the CD-ROM have to be a specific SCSI ID? I wouldn't think so, but you never know.
Apple's SCSI CD ROMs always have id==3 (unless someone has changed it...). And no, the computer does not need a specific id for the CD.
system: pmac 7200/90 MacOS 7.5
As a last resort, you can grab a (free) 7.5.3 full install from http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/YOU... Or try with a more recent MacOS... (i.e. 8.6)
regards nicola
On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 07:40:09PM +0100, nicola moretti wrote:
Peter Poeml wrote:
AFAIR MacOS 7.5 has a specific system extension to enable it to read iso9660 CD-ROMs. If that is not present, you won't be able to get the icon on your desktop. Look in the Extensions folder of your System Folder for a file with 9660 in its name. If it's not there, you might be able to install it with the "add stuff" option from your System 7.5 install CD-ROM...
Right, but you also need 'Apple CD ROM' and 'Foreign File Access' (or something similar). Anyway, I'm (almost) sure that the 6.4 CDs are hybrid (Mac/ISO; info on CD#1 gives "Mac OS Standard Volume"), so you should only need 'Apple CD ROM'.
Good point!
When I think about what I just wrote, I am not sure about it. I can remember I had the same phenonemon on my 7200/90, and could get the CD-ROM seen after I booted with the system extensions disable (holding the shift key down while booting!).
However, I would still try that one.
Peter
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