On Freitag, 27. März 2015, 11:42:46 wrote Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger:
On Fri, 2015-03-27 at 11:33 +0100, Takashi Iwai
At Fri, 27 Mar 2015 02:50:08 -0400,
Robert Schweikert wrote:
I know we have had this discussion/appeal before but it appears it
not reached everyone yet.
To those that have the power to accept SRs on the behalf of others
please be so kind and give package maintainers at least a few days
before you accept submit request.
What is the point of having individual package maintainers when
the project maintainer or higher level simply accept submit
package that they do not really maintain?
This is a discouraging practice and unless as a project maintainer
have the intention to maintain all those packages in the project
yourself I suggest you exercise restraint for a few days before
that accept command.
Well, I don't think waiting for a few days unconditionally is good,
it'd just slow down the process without much gain. Majority of
assigned as package maintainer still ignore the requests unless they
are project maintainers.
For the package I care that strongly, I set myself as reviewer.
Project maintainers do have the power to ignore this, but so far I
have to say, I didn't see anybody doing this (which is good).
My recommendation is:
- Project maintainers are there to maintain the ENTIRE project (meta
data incl. packages)
- Package maintainers are limited to a specific package / group of
packages. But they are not on their own
- If a package maintainer commits sufficiently to be
responsible', he should mark himself as reviewer of the package
I do not understand that part, you want to be the maintainer additionaly
be reviewer in a package in some devel project?
What does this help you?
Isn't it more a burden to accept first the review and afterwards the request?
- project maintainers that don't care for the
content of the entire
project should add themselves as maintainer of the packages they care
for and remove themselves from the list of project maintainers.
- a package maintainer, that did not ask for explicit review by
himself, once something 'against his ideas' is checked in, is
free/welcome to discuss with the sumitter/accepter and revert the
change (webui makes that terribly easy: revisions view, revert to this
Some projects have 20 project maintainers, and each cares for one
package... That's misleading in every aspect.
This is okay, if all of them do really take care of all packages.
eg. KDE people work that way and that is quite okay from my POV.
But, yes, people should not be project maintainer if they do
not take care of all projects.
Btw, while I think the OBS notification mails improved a lot
last year, it is of course also okay to work via the pull model.
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