On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 11:30:58AM +0200, Eric Schirra wrote:
Am Sa 25 Jun 2016, 22:51:41 schrieb Jan Engelhardt:
On Saturday 2016-06-25 20:59, Eric Schirra
Why was devel:languages:python/openSUSE_13.1
I think openSUSE_13.1 is Evergreen.
Of course you should watch the whole thing to get the larger context.
Okay i have seen it.
And when i understand right, i can not agree with it.
Richard speek from future stable package and i can he understand, but this is
not the point of view for me. And not my suit.
I live in the present and with distris 13.1, 13.2 and leap 42.1
When i need packages or create one i need it for those versions.
Tumbleweed and especially Factory is for me an 'by-product'.
So Evergreen is 13.1.
When i will use 13.1 i need package for 13.1.
And when i can not build these package, because other (for me now python) is
missing, i can not use evergreen.
So there is no need for evergreen.
Why it gives evergreen then?
I removed openSUSE_13.1 because official support is over and it
shouldn't build 3500 packages for the case there is Evergreen user who
might want to install few packages on top. If I wouldn't do that,
someone else would do that. I just felt I could stand stoning or two.
I respect that people are still using 13.1 for whatever reasons but
that's not argument for keeping 13.1 as build target. If you need some
packages from devel:languages:python or devel:languages:python3, link
them wherever you need it and enable 13.1 as target. You're on your
If you think your package should go into Evergreen, prepare (or
convince someone to do so) a maintenance update.
What should i do now?
Upgrade to 42.1?
No time for that. Brings other errors and problems.
13.1 is running very well.
OK, then no. But don't expect that devel projects will build packages
against that. Btw. are some of the bugs you reported still not solved?
Use a other distro with really LTS?
I don't want this.
Waht should i do now?
LTS means 'Long Term Support'. The packages you miss were not
supported for openSUSE_13.1, they were just built.
So I'd kindly recommend you to decide whether you want to have long
term supported distribution (take Leap or any other which will respect
your wishes) or you want to continue use your 13.1 based distribution.
I can understand development but i can also understand
And for my opinion users must the point of view.
Not the developments.
Without users, no developents needed.
Development and developers are the service provider for users.
Not reverse order.
I hope that this action will help users in the end.
And a little note to the video.
Almost anytime a question had a dissenting opinion from Richard, the question
was not answered and the next question was taken.
This is not right for me.