16 Oct
2008
16 Oct
'08
12:25
Hi List,
i try to compile php5 on my own to package and make my own setup.
I have some difficulties at some extenstions.
Is this list also intended to use for questions to
php5-configure-line,needed packages and missing libs or only rpm-based
questions?
I asked in opensuse-list but answer was "why do you compile, you can
download it"... and the php-lists are barely useful.
Thanks,
Andre
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16 Oct
16 Oct
12:51
Andre Hübner napsal(a):
i try to compile php5 on my own to package and make my
own setup.
I have some difficulties at some extenstions.
...
I asked in opensuse-list but answer was "why do
you compile, you can
download it"...
Why don't you take the openSUSE php5.spec as a starting point? :)
Michal
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17 Oct
17 Oct
12:04
i try to
compile php5 on my own to package and make my own setup.
I have some difficulties at some extenstions.
...
I asked in opensuse-list but answer was "why
do you compile, you can
download it"...
Why don't you take the openSUSE php5.spec as a starting point? :) 
18:18
Andre Hübner escribió:
Ok, thats a good point, thank you. I could solve my php5-Problems, wrong
configure-switch i did not see. (humpf)
Tried to adapt this solution to my php4-project but there are still some
errors.
php4.spec file is different to the PHP5 one.
i try to compile php5 on my own to package and make my
own setup.
I have some difficulties at some extenstions.
...
I asked in opensuse-list but answer was "why
do you compile, you can
download it"...
Why don't you take the openSUSE php5.spec as a starting point? :) Is there a opensuse11 php4-project with current
version php4-4.4.9?
Could not find anything under http://software.opensuse.org/search
mmarek had a php4 build running, as PHP4 is out of upstream support I
dont know what is the current status.
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Research & Development
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22 Oct
22 Oct
19:52
php4.spec file is different to the PHP5 one.
ok, is working now. It seems that some standard php4-extensions are
hardcoded to lib folder and are ignoring %_libdir params.
Latest php4.spec that i found is for php4-4.4.0, they used ~80 patches, may
be for this and other reasons...
Sure php4 is outdatet but some require it for compatibility reasons.
I did also some tests on ubuntu-hardy 64bit where php4 compiling was pretty
easy. They hold libs in libfolder, lib64 is symlinked to lib and lib32
separatly.
May be a more consequent way of realising 64bit OS? How is this issue seen
by other packagers.
I dont know backgrounds, what are advantages/disadvantages, in which
direction 64bit development will go?
Thanks,
Andre
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20:12
Andre Huebner escribió:
The 80 patches contains fixes for this and many other problems, that's
one of the reasons why it is not included in newer products.
php4.spec file
is different to the PHP5 one.
ok, is working now. It seems that some standard php4-extensions are
hardcoded to lib folder and are ignoring %_libdir params.
Latest php4.spec that i found is for php4-4.4.0, they used ~80 patches,
may be for this and other reasons... Sure php4 is outdatet but some require it for
compatibility reasons.
Care to explain what are your "compatibility" problems ? other than " Im
lazy and I dont want to change some code?"
May be a more consequent way of realising 64bit OS?
maybe they use the wrong way ? ;-)
How is this issue
seen by other packagers.
There is absolutely nothing to fix in this case, PHP4 is swimming with
the fishes, let it rest in peace.
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"A computer is like an Old Testament god, with a lot of rules and no
mercy. "
Cristian Rodríguez R.
Platform/OpenSUSE - Core Services
SUSE LINUX Products GmbH
Research & Development
http://www.opensuse.org/
21:16
Care to explain what are your
"compatibility" problems ? other than " Im
lazy and I dont want to change some code?"
if you work for your own this may
be right, but if you are working for b e l
o v e d customers you have to do some suboptimal things...
May be a more
consequent way of realising 64bit OS?
maybe they use the wrong way ? ;-) How is this
issue > seen by other packagers.
There is absolutely nothing to fix in this
case, PHP4 is swimming with
the fishes, let it rest in peace.
22:15
Andre Huebner escribió:
and cause developers to watch their steps of
cost of expensive patching/loss of older software?
the directory layout is a tiny part of the problem, thinking that having
libraries in /usr/lib instead of /usr/lib64 will avoid the need of code
changes is a very naive way to see things.
The place where libraries are doesnt make your software "64bit ready" in
anyway see the section "Porting code" of document:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/dwamd_AMD64…
just to have an idea... in short.. if it compiles does not mean it will
work ;-)
You have the perfect example package where changing the library
locations path dont fix anything, PHP4 has a not minor quantity of 64
bit portability problems, that wont ever be fixed, most critical ones
where fixed in PHP 5.1.x and the vast mayority of them are fixed in PHP
5.2.x..So.. you may see a lot of strange behaviuors ( that people tend
to workaround) crashes..etc.. even in the cases we wanted to fix the
problems, we can't :-P because many of the fixes will break the ABI and
people out there do rely in third party, propietary extensions...
If you use a 64 bit system , you must use PHP 5.x for this and many
other reasons...
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Research & Development
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