On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 07:27:25AM -0400, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:

Dirk Mueller escribió:

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Hi,

first come first serve

what's the rationale behing the sale ?

/me does not get it :?

Internal redistribution of pakcage maintainer ship, but since our internal packagers list is gone, on the external list. Ciao, Marcus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

Dirk Mueller wrote:

On Wednesday, 11. July 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote:

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what's the rationale behing the sale ?

I can't maintain the listed packages anymore, if anyone else wants to pick them up, he should speak up now.

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/me does not get it :? Internal redistribution of pakcage maintainer ship, but since our internal packagers list is gone, on the external list.

Its not really internal anymore, nowadays community members can maintain packages :)

I don't agree. In practice it's still too much hassle to "maintain" packages from the outside. I mean it's true that anyone can maintain packages in the buildservice or elsewhere but the way back into the openSUSE distribution is not defined sufficiently IMHO. Wolfgang --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

On 2007-07-11 19:18:36 +0200, Bernhard Walle wrote:

A Email notification on commit would be the first step to help here, IMO.

got a patch? darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

On 2007-07-11 20:31:26 +0200, Bernhard Walle wrote:

* Marcus Rueckert [2007-07-11 20:24]:

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On 2007-07-11 19:18:36 +0200, Bernhard Walle wrote:

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A Email notification on commit would be the first step to help here, IMO.

got a patch?

-ENOTMYJOB

hmm ... so contributing to a project that you use already isnt your job. nice darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

Moin moin, Am Mittwoch, den 11.07.2007, 19:12 +0200 schrieb Wolfgang Rosenauer:

Dirk Mueller wrote:

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On Wednesday, 11. July 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote:

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what's the rationale behing the sale ?

I can't maintain the listed packages anymore, if anyone else wants to pick them up, he should speak up now.

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/me does not get it :? Internal redistribution of pakcage maintainer ship, but since our internal packagers list is gone, on the external list.

Its not really internal anymore, nowadays community members can maintain packages :)

I don't agree. In practice it's still too much hassle to "maintain" packages from the outside. I mean it's true that anyone can maintain packages in the buildservice or elsewhere but the way back into the openSUSE distribution is not defined sufficiently IMHO.

What is the prefered way to apply for package maintainer ship for the opensuse distribution (core). Coming from Ubuntu, there is a way to enter the project without any hassles. So, if it's nowadays the way to maintain an official package by community members, what is the way to apply for "official opensuse community upload rights"? Regarding my time schedule, I could take some, or push new packages into it... \sh -- Stephan Hermann eMail: sh@sourcecode.de Blog: http://linux.blogweb.de/ JID: sh@linux-server.org OSS-Developer and Admin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

On Thursday 12 July 2007 07:24:43 wrote Stephan Hermann:

Moin moin,

Am Mittwoch, den 11.07.2007, 19:12 +0200 schrieb Wolfgang Rosenauer:

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Dirk Mueller wrote:

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On Wednesday, 11. July 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote:

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what's the rationale behing the sale ?

I can't maintain the listed packages anymore, if anyone else wants to pick them up, he should speak up now.

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/me does not get it :?

Internal redistribution of pakcage maintainer ship, but since our internal packagers list is gone, on the external list.

Its not really internal anymore, nowadays community members can maintain packages :)

I don't agree. In practice it's still too much hassle to "maintain" packages from the outside. I mean it's true that anyone can maintain packages in the buildservice or elsewhere but the way back into the openSUSE distribution is not defined sufficiently IMHO.

What is the prefered way to apply for package maintainer ship for the opensuse distribution (core). Coming from Ubuntu, there is a way to enter the project without any hassles. So, if it's nowadays the way to maintain an official package by community members, what is the way to apply for "official opensuse community upload rights"?

Regarding my time schedule, I could take some, or push new packages into it...

unfortunatly we do not have reached this step yet. What we need to do before is * Building the distro within the build service to make it reachable and transparent for everybody. we have reached the first step where all current sources are inside of the openSUSE:Factory project and they do build against official rpms to show the status. This does show us that we have to * cleanup factory <> factory-extra dependencies, currently there are some packages in factory which needs factory-extra packages for buidling. * solve the java issues, this means either move away packages which needs binary only java elements or try to build them with a free java engine (or adapt our policies). * Support baselibs build (the -32bit packages) * offer merge request and handle them. At least some of the packages do need a full review (we do so also internally, only very few people can commit directly). This is also needed to avoid endless building projects without to finish ever. We do work atm a bit on the java issues, but our main focus for the next 4 weeks are the real end-user interface for easy downloading and installing software. So, right now, a package can get prepared from anyone in the build service, in best case on top of the openSUSE:Factory package, but we still need an internal one to submit it. bye adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) email: adrian@suse.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

Am Mittwoch 11 Juli 2007 schrieb Ladislav Michnovič:

2007/7/11, Dirk Mueller :

I can't find this one in PDb:

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listtre

I'll take these:

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desktop-translations boson xbase xbsql

Where can I find sources of desktop-translations? Getpac doesn't work. :(

It's update-desktop-files, which is my package. So Dirk is trying to make a fortune in selling my packages. You can have it, but you need to take the ugly step brother collect-desktop-files too then :) Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

On Wednesday, 11. July 2007, Ladislav Michnovič wrote:

I can't find this one in PDb:

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listtre

typo, sorry. its libtre, a library for fuzzy regular expressions. -- RPMLINT information under http://en.opensuse.org/Packaging/RpmLint --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

Pavol Rusnak wrote:

- fbset (Framebuffer Configuration Tool)

No longer for sale, I've already taken this package a month ago. :) Petr --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

Ludwig Nussel wrote:

Pavol Rusnak wrote:

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- lprng (LPRng Print Spooler)

Is that one still needed at all?

This package involves some SLES9 (L3) maintenance. -- Best Regards / S pozdravom, Pavol RUSNAK SUSE LINUX, s.r.o Package Maintainer Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xA6917144 19000 Praha 9, CR prusnak[at]suse.cz http://www.suse.cz --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007, Pavol Rusnak wrote:

Dirk Mueller wrote:

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first come first serve

Hope you don't mind if I add some of mine packages:

Debian tools: - deb (Tools for Debian Packages)

We (coolo and me) have this one packaged differently in the build-service under Ports:DebianBased:Tools, so if there are no internal build dependencies you can drop it. Richard. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

Am Mittwoch 11 Juli 2007 schrieb Bernhard Walle:

* Richard Guenther [2007-07-11 15:21]:

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On Wed, 11 Jul 2007, Pavol Rusnak wrote:

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Dirk Mueller wrote:

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first come first serve

Hope you don't mind if I add some of mine packages:

Debian tools: - deb (Tools for Debian Packages)

We (coolo and me) have this one packaged differently in the build-service under Ports:DebianBased:Tools, so if there are no internal build dependencies you can drop it.

Well, it's needed to view deb files in the Midnight Commander, isn't it?

No, dpkg is. But that deb package has all kind of other things in there. Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org