On 8 November 2017 at 17:14, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote:

On Wed, 2017-11-08 at 17:09 +0100, Olaf Hering wrote:

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Since this change affects a large number of pkgs in many devel prjs, and likely many other prjs, shouldnt that define be added to the prjconf of every base-prj, like openSUSE:Leap:42.2/3, openSUSE:Backports:SLE-12? That way it would be globally available right away, with the correct value and syntax.

Those are finished/released products and I'd really oppose to changing their configuration in any way.

I agree

The "if ! defined…" either goes to a devel prj that actually cares for this to be working on old distros or directly in the package (btw: it's not THAT many packages; I think I counted something like ~200)

207 to be exact -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org

On 9 November 2017 at 08:11, Bruno Friedmann wrote:

On mercredi, 8 novembre 2017 17.20:10 h CET Richard Brown wrote:

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On 8 November 2017 at 17:14, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar

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On Wed, 2017-11-08 at 17:09 +0100, Olaf Hering wrote:

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Since this change affects a large number of pkgs in many devel prjs, and likely many other prjs, shouldnt that define be added to the prjconf of every base-prj, like openSUSE:Leap:42.2/3, openSUSE:Backports:SLE-12? That way it would be globally available right away, with the correct value and syntax.

Those are finished/released products and I'd really oppose to changing their configuration in any way.

I agree

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The "if ! defined…" either goes to a devel prj that actually cares for this to be working on old distros or directly in the package (btw: it's not THAT many packages; I think I counted something like ~200)

207 to be exact

If you have the exact sum, could you please also publish the list of all of them either on wiki or in the official introduction announce. I guess it should help and make it easier for packager to find their own baby and push adequate correction.

Thanks.

Sure, here's the list at the moment: http://paste.opensuse.org/32867076 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org

On 9 November 2017 at 17:01, Olaf Hering wrote:

On Thu, Nov 09, Richard Brown wrote:

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Sure, here's the list at the moment: http://paste.opensuse.org/32867076

71 devel prjs to be changed:

cut -f 1 -d / ${list} | xargs -n1 obs dp openSUSE:Factory | sort -u

Alternatively the .spec files could carry the compat definition themselves I guess.. why change your devel project if only 2-3 spec files in your project will be impacted by it That's something we can leave to package maintainers I guess -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org

On 16 November 2017 at 18:47, Bruno Friedmann wrote:

On jeudi, 9 novembre 2017 17.44:29 h CET Richard Brown wrote:

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On 9 November 2017 at 17:01, Olaf Hering wrote:

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On Thu, Nov 09, Richard Brown wrote:

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Sure, here's the list at the moment: http://paste.opensuse.org/32867076

71 devel prjs to be changed:

cut -f 1 -d / ${list} | xargs -n1 obs dp openSUSE:Factory | sort -u

Alternatively the .spec files could carry the compat definition themselves I guess.. why change your devel project if only 2-3 spec files in your project will be impacted by it

That's something we can leave to package maintainers I guess

Ok one of my pet (shorewall), is now going to travel to Factory with the compat def included inside the spec

https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/542468

Let see what I've done right and not ;-)

Looks good to me - more robust than I expect most changes will be because you're including the compat def instead the spec ;) As no one has objected, my submissions to define the _fillupdir macro in Tumbleweed with the path /usr/share/fillup-templates, and the related filesystem package change to create that path, are both now on the way to Factory I'm adding documentation to the wiki for the new path as soon as I send this, and as promised will announce to here and -factory when packagers *need* to start changing their specfiles But if anyone wants to get ahead of the game and follow Bruno's lead, I think that would be really cool :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org