On 10/22/19 5:35 PM, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
Am 22.10.19 um 01:04 schrieb Simon Lees:
On 10/21/19 11:33 PM, Lars Vogdt wrote:
Am October 21, 2019 12:35:40 PM UTC schrieb
Michael Matz <matz(a)suse.de>de>:
> I've certainly declined all SRs removing Groups from my packages, they
> supposed to stay the same for SLE11/12/15 and there groups are still
> shown. And of course I'm of the same opinion like Jan, instead of
> removing metadata and replacing them by nothing (which of course is a
> change that's easy to do) if anything it should be fixed if necessary.
According to the fate, dropping them for SLE-15sp2 is fine, SLE-11 is
also well and truly end of life.
Oh. I suggest you better ask your sales department. I wonder what we are paying these
huge LTSS bills for ;-)
Well some of it probably goes to my salary, given part of my job is
providing security fixes for LTSS distro's. As such I know and
understand the restrictions on what can go into LTSS updates and am
therefore quite confident that dropping groups won't impact or make it
any harder to provide maintenance updates, many of the people who want
to see groups dropped also work on SLE 11 LTSS.
There are now
suggestions on factory of a "better" way to implement this
and we have a copy of all the groups locally that could be used as a
starting point without them needing to stay in Factory.
What does removing a single line of spec file per (sub-)package really gain that it has
to be propagaged with such fervor?
Nothing, the original intention was to slowly drop them over time, many
packagers like to use the time between major releases to give there
packages a bit of a tidy up removing redundant info as they go these
kind of changes to remove groups that we no longer use fit that category
and people care enough about the cleanup process to go through the
paperwork to be allowed to include such changes in upcoming releases.
Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net
Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek
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