Hello :-)
It looks like there are many dvd authoring tools, but no one works as expected!
Is this a thing to be discussed here or may I already open bugzilla?
(DeVeDe asks for spumux that is installed, Bombono don't find scons, some are pretty simple ands wont fit my needs...)
may be we could target one (Bombono?) and let alone the others?
thanks jdd NB: DVDAuthor is always the base but seems pretty hard to manage manually
On 03/31/2011 07:46 PM, jdd wrote:
Hello :-)
It looks like there are many dvd authoring tools, but no one works as expected!
Is this a thing to be discussed here or may I already open bugzilla?
(DeVeDe asks for spumux that is installed, Bombono don't find scons, some are pretty simple ands wont fit my needs...)
may be we could target one (Bombono?) and let alone the others?
thanks jdd NB: DVDAuthor is always the base but seems pretty hard to manage manually
After trying them all "DVDStyler - GUI frontend for dvdauthor and other related tools" is the simplest to use and you can produce full menus with video and subtitles. All said, I'm in the process of making a script that analyses the video file for aspect ratio and does either a single stage or piped two stage ffmpeg conversion (if the aspect ratio is too far over 16:9 you need to pad) which is then processed by spmux and dvdauthor which is then made into an iso image.
DVDStyler, as I have found with the other dvdauthor frontends, falls short on the initial conversion to mpeg2 so I always convert with ffmpeg using -target pal-dvd along with other options when analysis of the original video file show that they are necessary. It was the simplest gui when my knowledge of dvds was close to zero. You might find this link interesting : http://womble.decadent.org.uk/talks/dvd-ukuug06/dvd-talk-ukuug06-paper.html
Regards Dave P
Le 31/03/2011 22:25, Dave Plater a écrit :
DVDStyler, as I have found with the other dvdauthor frontends, falls short on the initial conversion to mpeg2 so I always convert with ffmpeg using -target pal-dvd
dvdstyler is said to be able to recompress too large mpeg2 video (and it's a very usefull feature), but at least as I tried just now simply crash with segfault :-(
I will have to follow all this in bugzilla, but don't have time right now as I have a dvd to deliver :-() - so I have to go back to Windows (no so glad, the windows Magix editor is good for linear editing but not so good as dvd maker :-()
thanks jdd
On 04/01/2011 09:19 AM, jdd wrote:
Le 31/03/2011 22:25, Dave Plater a écrit :
DVDStyler, as I have found with the other dvdauthor frontends, falls short on the initial conversion to mpeg2 so I always convert with ffmpeg using -target pal-dvd
dvdstyler is said to be able to recompress too large mpeg2 video (and it's a very usefull feature), but at least as I tried just now simply crash with segfault :-(
This would be one of the ffmpeg package libs :libavcodec52,libavformat52, libavutil50 or libswscale0. When you update ffmpeg always make sure that all of the libs also get updated from the same repo, this is the complete list : libavcodec52 libavdevice52 libavfilter1 libavformat52 libavutil50 libpostproc51 libswscale0 Looking at the spec file they should be pulled in by an ffmpeg update from packman. Install all of the debug packages for them if you want to get a backtrace from the crash : ffmpeg-debugsource and the -debuginfo versions of all of the above.
I never use dvdstyler to reduce the size of a video or any other type of conversion it fails 80% of the time, the aspect ratio is very often wrong ie. elongated and it takes about four times longer than ffmpeg usually before it fails. In other words if you want to stay calm don't use it. I check the box that says "do not transcode" in the properties window obtained by right clicking on the video file for the context menu also the configuration button (with a spanner) in the upper right side select 16:9 instead of auto. Use "ffmpeg -i inputfile -target pal-dvd -aspect 16:9 outfile" to reduce the size of the outfile reduce the bit rate with "-b 4000k" to get about a 10% reduction and reduce 5.1 to stereo ("-ac 2") also audio bitrate reduction is useful for reducing by a small amount eg."-ab 128k still gives good sound and you can go as low as "-ab 32k" for mostly speech remember 128k is considered cd quality. For inputfiles with a size less than 720x400 (720x395 will look ok but dvb of 720x308 definitely needs two stages 16:9 is 720x405) you need to do a two stage conversion : "ffmpeg -i inputfile -target pal-dvd -s "inputfile video size" -vf pad=720:404:0:"404 minus horizontal size divided by two":black pipe: |ffmpeg -i pipe: -target pal-dvd -aspect 16:9 outfile" The pipe: name for infile and outfile makes ffmpeg use stdin and stdout. The pad filter adds space to the left and right or top and bottom of the frame to correct the aspect the last part :black allows you to specify the colour of the space.
I will have to follow all this in bugzilla, but don't have time right now as I have a dvd to deliver :-() - so I have to go back to Windows (no so glad, the windows Magix editor is good for linear editing but not so good as dvd maker :-()
thanks jdd
Packman doesn't have a bugzilla you have to use their mailing list or irc, I haven't even subscribed to the list yet but I would be happy to help you sort your problem out here. ffmpeg-0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2 is the latest version, dvdauthor-0.6.18-1.pm.3.1 and DVDStyler-1.8.2.1-5.pm.9.1. All of the ffmpeg libs mentioned above must have the same version as ffmpeg.
Regards Dave P
Le 31/03/2011 22:25, Dave Plater a écrit :
DVDStyler, as I have found with the other dvdauthor frontends, falls short on the initial conversion to mpeg2 so I always convert with ffmpeg using -target pal-dvd
dvdstyler is said to be able to recompress too large mpeg2 video (and it's a very usefull feature), but at least as I tried just now simply crash with segfault :-(
I will have to follow all this in bugzilla, but don't have time right now as I have a dvd to deliver :-() - so I have to go back to Windows (no so glad, the windows Magix editor is good for linear editing but not so good as dvd maker :-()
thanks jdd
KMediaFactory works well for me. IIRC ManDVD also works. DVDStyler can hang without throwing an error message. And while DeVeDe while has more options, it appears to re-encode all the video files which I don't want because that has already been done previously by the editing app.
On 04/01/2011 03:26 PM, dwgallien wrote:
KMediaFactory works well for me. IIRC ManDVD also works.
ManDVD is my second choice, never actually tried KMediaFactory DVDStyler can hang without throwing an error message. Never had a problem with DVDStyler using pre encoded video files and it works well with subtitles as long as they're UTF8. And while DeVeDe while has more options, it appears to re-encode all the video files which I don't want because that has already been done previously by the editing app.
Regards Dave P
As soon as I finish the present work, I will test this extensively.
Be able to stretch the videos is very impoortant when you have 30 chapters to manage and only few bytes in excess :-)
(I just notice there are dependency problems because some packman packages are older than openSUSE and zypper changed repository)
jdd
On 04/01/2011 05:42 PM, jdd wrote:
As soon as I finish the present work, I will test this extensively.
Be able to stretch the videos is very impoortant when you have 30 chapters to manage and only few bytes in excess :-)
(I just notice there are dependency problems because some packman packages are older than openSUSE and zypper changed repository)
jdd
Tell me which ones and I will fix it. If these are crippled openSUSE packages installed instead of Packman ones it could be a problem, otherwise the Packman packages build against openSUSE anyway. Dave P
On 04/01/2011 05:42 PM, jdd wrote:
As soon as I finish the present work, I will test this extensively.
Be able to stretch the videos is very impoortant when you have 30 chapters to manage and only few bytes in excess :-)
(I just notice there are dependency problems because some packman packages are older than openSUSE and zypper changed repository)
jdd
Tell me which ones and I will fix it. If these are crippled openSUSE packages installed instead of Packman ones it could be a problem, otherwise the Packman packages build against openSUSE anyway. Dave P
In YaST/Software Management under the RPM Groups tab click on Productivity/Multimedia/Video/Editors & Converters. There is a long list of video editing and building packages. 99% of these should be installed from Packman. For sure, some of them are quite limited in capability, some don't work fully as intended, and a few have bugs that stop them from working at all. That said, at least on my 11.3 machine with 11.3 Packman, they all install and all dependencies are satisfied. On rare occasion, a Packman packager will miss including a dependency, or a missing dependency will have to be found in the Build Service.
(One thing that can be confusing with Packman is his version numbering. For a reason I don't know, newer versions can have older version numbers. You'll see this under the Technical Data tab which shows build dates, and YaST displays these in red.)
well... I begin to scan dvd creation tools.
I work like this: I installed on VirtualBox a brand new 11.4, zypper up, reboot.
setup reposotories: remove all debug/source, (keep oss, update, non oss), add libdvdcss and packman.
go to YaST, search for "dvd, choose all the dvd authoring tools (2mandvd, dvdstyler, bombono, devede, dvdwizard, kmediafactory, ldvd, qdvdauthor, tovid, vobcopy)
already got wo error messages:
* dvdstyler: "nothing provide libwxsvg.so" (I installed breaking dvdstyler)* ldvd: "nothing provide perl-Gtk-Perl"
I will open bugzilla for them
I will test, at least basically, all these apps soon.
jdd
Le 02/04/2011 10:21, jdd a écrit :
- dvdstyler: "nothing provide libwxsvg.so" (I installed breaking
dvdstyler)
seems related to bug #681409, added a notice in this bug report
* ldvd: "nothing provide perl-Gtk-Perl"
open bug 684732
also open a bug #684730 to ask for consistency. Some apps are found in media editing menu, others in cd/dvd burning menu.
thanks jdd
On 04/02/2011 10:21 AM, jdd wrote:
well... I begin to scan dvd creation tools.
I work like this: I installed on VirtualBox a brand new 11.4, zypper up, reboot.
setup reposotories: remove all debug/source, (keep oss, update, non oss), add libdvdcss and packman.
go to YaST, search for "dvd, choose all the dvd authoring tools (2mandvd, dvdstyler, bombono, devede, dvdwizard, kmediafactory, ldvd, qdvdauthor, tovid, vobcopy)
already got wo error messages:
- dvdstyler: "nothing provide libwxsvg.so"
I have a problem with packman only on 11.4 x86_64 build wxsvg doesn't know where to find libwxsvg.so.0 although it exists, you install I was about to kick the server when I was called away but I've linked to my home pm project and it still has the problem so I must inform someone of the problem and it should be sorted tomorrow. Unfortunately my time is limited atm and I'm new to pm.
Dave P
(I installed breaking dvdstyler)* ldvd: "nothing provide perl-Gtk-Perl"
I will open bugzilla for them
I will test, at least basically, all these apps soon.
jdd
Am Sat, 02 Apr 2011 17:52:22 +0200 schrieb Dave Plater davejplater@gmail.com:
I must inform someone of the problem
Why?
Bug #680959
It is a bug in wxWidgets from oss, so, please wait for an update...
Detlef
On 04/02/2011 09:56 PM, Detlef Reichelt wrote:
Am Sat, 02 Apr 2011 17:52:22 +0200 schrieb Dave Platerdavejplater@gmail.com:
I must inform someone of the problem
Why?
Bug #680959
It is a bug in wxWidgets from oss, so, please wait for an update...
Detlef
wxsvg for some reason requires "libwxsvg.so.0(wxcontainer)()(64bit)" instead of libwxsvg.so.0()(64bit) that's the problem.
Dave P
Am Sun, 03 Apr 2011 15:43:55 +0200 schrieb Dave Plater davejplater@gmail.com:
On 04/02/2011 09:56 PM, Detlef Reichelt wrote:
Am Sat, 02 Apr 2011 17:52:22 +0200 schrieb Dave Platerdavejplater@gmail.com:
I must inform someone of the problem
Why?
Bug #680959
It is a bug in wxWidgets from oss, so, please wait for an update...
Detlef
wxsvg for some reason requires "libwxsvg.so.0(wxcontainer)()(64bit)" instead of libwxsvg.so.0()(64bit) that's the problem.
yes, a bug in wxWidgets, not a bug in wxsvg or dvdstyler.
Detlef
On 04/02/2011 09:56 PM, Detlef Reichelt wrote:
Am Sat, 02 Apr 2011 17:52:22 +0200 schrieb Dave Platerdavejplater@gmail.com:
I must inform someone of the problem
Why?
Bug #680959
It is a bug in wxWidgets from oss, so, please wait for an update...
Detlef
Added "Provides: libwxsvg.so.0(wxcontainer)()(64bit)" and submitted to multimedia. Dave P
go to YaST, search for "dvd, choose all the dvd authoring tools (2mandvd, dvdstyler, bombono, devede, dvdwizard, kmediafactory, ldvd, qdvdauthor, tovid, vobcopy)
As I posted previously, you will find more apps by using the RPM Groups tab. I don't know your requirements, but in addition to the above other possibilities are mandvd (not the same), ogmrip, openshot, videomaker, and less likely avidemux and LiVES.
On 04/03/2011 08:33 PM, dwgallien wrote:
go to YaST, search for "dvd, choose all the dvd authoring tools (2mandvd, dvdstyler, bombono, devede, dvdwizard, kmediafactory, ldvd, qdvdauthor, tovid, vobcopy)
As I posted previously, you will find more apps by using the RPM Groups tab. I don't know your requirements, but in addition to the above other possibilities are mandvd (not the same), ogmrip, openshot, videomaker, and less likely avidemux and LiVES.
Avidemux is a very useful app, apart from cutting, pasting and joining it's very useful for files that ffmpeg falls short simply loading and saving the file very often fixes, it does have a problem with libraries and crashing, I usually do a local system rpmbuild of it and that's a lot more stable. It's matured to a point where it warns you if it can't handle a file properly.
Dave P
Le 03/04/2011 20:33, dwgallien a écrit :
As I posted previously, you will find more apps by using the RPM Groups tab. I don't know your requirements, but in addition to the above other possibilities are mandvd (not the same), ogmrip, openshot, videomaker, and less likely avidemux and LiVES.
just now, I only look for dvd authoring tools
I summarize the result here:
http://dodin.org/wiki/index.php?n=Doc.DVDAuthoringWithOpenSUSELinux
Of course right now it's only a short test, to see if the app works at least a bit. I will make more complete test soon.
I do this because I just had to do this dvd authoring, so the workflow is fresh in my memory :-)
jdd
Bombono have a little bug - seems easy to fix:
http://dodin.org/wiki/index.php?n=Doc.DVDAuthoringWithOpenSUSELinux#toc6
(needs scons, but scons in not required )
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684814
jdd
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