[suse-mirror] Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 11.4 is done! Please help with Launch!
Hi, On Thu, 3 Mar 2011, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I'm happy to announce that the DVD ISOs of openSUSE 11.4 are finished.
Wonderful, or great. At least an evolution event.
As usual a distribution is a product of many hands - both from the openSUSE community and the various upstream communities whose projects we use: Some developed great software, or wrote documentation, or translated documentation and software, build packages for openSUSE, tested everything, wrote bug reports, helped to get the bugreports to those that fixed it, fixed bugreports, supported those that were using openSUSE 11.4 in the development phase, told others about openSUSE 11.4 via blogs, videos etc. Thanks to all of you!
Yes, but OpenSUSE still seems to lack a part of "good cooperating" (actively helping) community. At least some publication projects seem to need more people - the base, the kernel and also the distribution developers are excellently populated, I guess. At least to the later aspect: SUSE kernels (SLES kernels) are the "best maintained" worldwide, I guess (besides some bugzilla entries currently from my side, but I know from experience what I said - the "quality production" process and, maybe even more important, the conciousness about that is greatest worldwide at SUSE, I guess).
I'd like to thank especially Coolo who drove as release manager the creation of 11.4 until he became ill. I had some catching up yesterday and checked in only a few fixes that were critical for installation and missed for sure some important fixes.
So, for those and other important fixes, please follow the Maintenance workflow as explained at http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Maintenance so that users can get quickly fixes for these.
The next big thing now is the launch of openSUSE 11.4 on Thursday, 10th of March. Please support the marketing team *NOW* with getting everything ready for the launch. Join us on the opensuse-marketing mailing list and on freenode IRC channel #opensuse-marketing.
The central web page is http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:11.4 and it needs quite some love at the moment. Please help document what we've done!
We will also have some launch parties, including one in Nuernberg on the 16th of March. More details are at http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Launch_parties Please setup your own parties as well!
My main interest is to get the code into ftp5.gwdg.de, second interest to try it personally, third to distribute. If everything is done, why not distribute immediately? With RC2, we had a deletion and renewal of all already distributed files while the directories still were not opened. Please start that again just now. The "open distribution directories now" signal would be a totally separate thingy for the mirrors, main thing is to get the files just-in-time and distribute internally - many of us mirrors will struggle to deny the need of your very costly Akamai helpout for the first hours, so please honorate "our" struggle to engage all secondary ressorces just-in-time. We like to give our best and help you this time (first time!) to get able to dismiss the costly Akamai distribution bandwidth, but most german mirrors - your main base, but all willing others too - need some preparation time before your final release signal. So, please let the code come out just now. Viele Gruesse Eberhard Moenkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org) -- Eberhard Moenkeberg Arbeitsgruppe IT-Infrastruktur E-Mail: emoenke@gwdg.de Tel.: +49 (0)551 201-1551 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gesellschaft fuer wissenschaftliche Datenverarbeitung mbH Goettingen (GWDG) Am Fassberg 11, 37077 Goettingen URL: http://www.gwdg.de E-Mail: gwdg@gwdg.de Tel.: +49 (0)551 201-1510 Fax: +49 (0)551 201-2150 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Prof. Dr. Oswald Haan und Dr. Paul Suren Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Prof. Dr. Christian Griesinger Sitz der Gesellschaft: Goettingen Registergericht: Goettingen Handelsregister-Nr. B 598 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mirror+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: mirror+help@opensuse.org
On Friday, March 04, 2011 03:47:18 AM Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
[...] My main interest is to get the code into ftp5.gwdg.de, second interest to try it personally, third to distribute.
If everything is done, why not distribute immediately? With RC2, we had a deletion and renewal of all already distributed files while the directories still were not opened.
Please start that again just now. The "open distribution directories now" signal would be a totally separate thingy for the mirrors, main thing is to get the files just-in-time and distribute internally - many of us mirrors will struggle to deny the need of your very costly Akamai helpout for the first hours, so please honorate "our" struggle to engage all secondary ressorces just-in-time.
We like to give our best and help you this time (first time!) to get able to dismiss the costly Akamai distribution bandwidth, but most german mirrors - your main base, but all willing others too - need some preparation time before your final release signal.
So, please let the code come out just now.
Getting everything ready for publishing takes some time, I'm currently syncing the repo/oss tree internally around to the staging area. And with Coolo ill, it takes a little bit longer ;-( I expect that we have everything on stage on Monday but having the binaries in repo/oss today should give you a head start. We mark everything non-readable until Thursday, 10th of March. As in the past, if any mirror leaks before Thursday, we will remove access of that mirror to the staging area, so please check your setting. Thanks all for your great help! Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mirror+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: mirror+help@opensuse.org
On Friday, March 04, 2011 11:15:14 AM Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Getting everything ready for publishing takes some time, I'm currently syncing the repo/oss tree internally around to the staging area. And with Coolo ill, it takes a little bit longer ;-(
I expect that we have everything on stage on Monday but having the binaries in repo/oss today should give you a head start.
We mark everything non-readable until Thursday, 10th of March. As in the past, if any mirror leaks before Thursday, we will remove access of that mirror to the staging area, so please check your setting.
I've uploaded the binaries (distribution/11.4/repo/oss) and will now upload debug and source rpms for those that mirror it. Cheers, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mirror+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: mirror+help@opensuse.org
On 03/04/2011 02:15 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Friday, March 04, 2011 03:47:18 AM Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
[...] My main interest is to get the code into ftp5.gwdg.de, second interest to try it personally, third to distribute.
If everything is done, why not distribute immediately? With RC2, we had a deletion and renewal of all already distributed files while the directories still were not opened.
Please start that again just now. The "open distribution directories now" signal would be a totally separate thingy for the mirrors, main thing is to get the files just-in-time and distribute internally - many of us mirrors will struggle to deny the need of your very costly Akamai helpout for the first hours, so please honorate "our" struggle to engage all secondary ressorces just-in-time.
We like to give our best and help you this time (first time!) to get able to dismiss the costly Akamai distribution bandwidth, but most german mirrors - your main base, but all willing others too - need some preparation time before your final release signal.
So, please let the code come out just now.
Getting everything ready for publishing takes some time, I'm currently syncing the repo/oss tree internally around to the staging area. And with Coolo ill, it takes a little bit longer ;-(
I can definitely appreciate how long it takes to get this setup from your end Andreas, and really the more work you put into it the easier it is for everyone. So my hat goes off to you with respect to that.
I expect that we have everything on stage on Monday but having the binaries in repo/oss today should give you a head start.
The sooner the bits get out, the better, particularly for getting the ~30G of data shipped across the Atlantic. Couple of things that might be helpful with this (and I know you've got enough with this release, so please ignore these for 11.4) - Other distros have had some good luck with hard linking content from the beta that hasn't changed into the final release. Cuts down on what needs to be transferred in the final go around. This might already be the case for you guys, I haven't looked / double checked this. - Pushing out the actual release date so that you've got, basically, a weeks worth of push time from when the content actually makes it onto the master servers. A week is more than enough time to get all the content pushed around, even across the ponds. - Push for more tiering in the mirror infrastructure. Right now everyone seems to be encouraged to pull from the master servers. While this is nice, it makes the master servers a heck of a bottleneck in getting the content. While this gives you a really clean way of making sure everyone is syncing from the same place (and thus everyone is guaranteed as close to identical as possible), it's also a mess when trying to get the content out to everyone. Choose 10 mirrors that are stable, have good solid hardware, are geographically diverse and have bucket loads of bandwidth (tier 1 mirrors). Give them early access to the content (day or two?) and let them get the data as quickly as they can, and encourage all the other mirrors (tier 2 mirrors) to sync from the tier 1 mirrors. This spreads the load out and everyone gets synced a lot faster in the end. On a side note, I'm more than happy to let official opensuse mirrors sync directly from kernel.org, we've got 4 machines worldwide and 4gbps of worldwide bandwidth. Just e-mail ftpadmin@kernel.org and we'll set you up with access to a tier2 opensuse module. One other thing that's been very useful to a number of us is the Open Source Release Calendar: http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=pnjc2h5nmtpb02jqgbafgj51u8%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/Los_Angeles We've been trying to keep it up to date, and it gives us mirror admins a fighting chance to be able to safely plan downtimes for hardware or other maintenance, and let us know what's going on. It's just a public Google calendar, and I'm more than happy to add anyone from OpenSuse to it so they can update it during the release process vs. me (or one of the other people with change access) from doing it externally. (with a side hope of distros realizing when other things are being released so they don't all release at the same time, I know I'm wishing on dreams but yeah) I'm just tossing these out as suggestions, and things that are working for other distros, and things that have been helping other mirror admins.
We mark everything non-readable until Thursday, 10th of March. As in the past, if any mirror leaks before Thursday, we will remove access of that mirror to the staging area, so please check your setting.
Is there a specific flip time your requesting, as I haven't seen a flip time published and just want to make sure we are live when you want us to be. - John 'Warthog9' Hawley Chief Kernel.org Administrator -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mirror+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: mirror+help@opensuse.org
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