Calling for help for medical project. How do I create a live cd as I want it?
Hello, Next week I'm planing to have the first medical project meeting. I'll inform you about. Following what mentioned: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-medical/2011-11/msg00007.html I was searching a way how to create a live cd fully functional. PROBLEM: We need a live cd that will have an SQL program installed (with user-pass) and this database will be imported to the EMR program. Imagine to setup a live cd with Joomla or Drupal fully functional. SUSE studio can add the medical repository and the EMR programs but without the SQL programs. Even if the SQL is set, then the EMR program must be installed-setup. If someone know how to do that, let us know. I was told that I can do that with KIWI. I was reading documentation to do that but I understood that KIWI adds repository and the program with the use of config.xml file. Someone told me that there might be a script but it's out of his zone. Since I'm veterinarian and I don't know about scripting etc (and tell you the truth I don't want to learn since there are a lot about animal pathology so far), I don't know how to proceed. Can someone tell me or even better help me? As far as I see it, I can say: 1. We pack as many programs as we can to our repository. 2. Create an appliance with the repository and maybe with some programs that don't require SQL. 3. Make our wiki the PORTAL that everyone can use with the LiveCD. I mean how to install the EMR program (how to setup SQL and then the program). I'll be waiting for proposals, so I'll set the meeting for next week. Have a lot of fun, Stathis -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-medical+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-medical+owner@opensuse.org
Le 14 déc. 2011 à 22:20, Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr) a écrit :
Hello,
Hello, Like with my precedent mail, I'm ccing to all Medical Linux distro teams because I believe that this discussion can be done in collaboration with all teams (even if the final result will be different for each team). See my precedent mail about a central mailing list.
Next week I'm planing to have the first medical project meeting. I'll inform you about.
Following what mentioned: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-medical/2011-11/msg00007.html
I was searching a way how to create a live cd fully functional.
I think that you will not be able to create a LiveCD with fully functional MySQL, PostGreSQL servers. If you succeed with an installation of these server, data will be lost at each restart. Assuming that your wishes are: - distributing an easy system for app testing - install and preconfigure medical&related apps - make this fully installable (system and config) to any computer I suggest to dig around LiveUSB with data persistence instead of digging deeper in LiveCD. (with a simplification) There are two kinds of LiveUSB: - LiveUSB installator * same as LiveCD installator * install a complete system to your computer using an USBKey, no data persistence. * Usefull in our case but not what you are looking for. - LiveUSB installation * same as a computer installation * Linux is completely installed on an USBKey with all driver needed to process hardware config, * a specific partition is created for the data persistence. * This allows you to create a full OpenSuse/Debian/Ubuntu/Fedora There is a similar project here: http://www.framakey.org/ I'm not a LiveUSB guru but I succeed on create a live usb drive with a 4Go key and ubuntu. Unfortunately, I didn't succeed to boot it from my MacBook, and I didn't go further (install personnal packages and config). It started on a Dell computer. What do you think about this orientation ? ----- Eric Maeker, MD (Fr) http://www.freemedforms.com http://www.ericmaeker.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-medical+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-medical+owner@opensuse.org
As Andreas mentioned, it's not cross distro issue since all distros have different tools to create live media.
Next week I'm planing to have the first medical project meeting. I'll inform you about.
Following what mentioned: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-medical/2011-11/msg00007.html
I was searching a way how to create a live cd fully functional. I think that you will not be able to create a LiveCD with fully functional MySQL, PostGreSQL servers. If you succeed with an installation of these server, data will be lost at each restart.
Assuming that your wishes are: - distributing an easy system for app testing - install and preconfigure medical&related apps - make this fully installable (system and config) to any computer You're right. This media will be easy to test pre-configured applications and those applications will be fully installed after installation. Doctors (people who don't care about computers) want something that works (proprietary or not). If the live media won't work, then they won't test it before install it.
I was testing a lot of things, even with other distros to understand how things work (unfortunately it's not my job to do that). Well, I managed to create an appliance on mint (it works after installation) and I also managed on PCLinuxOS (http://sourceforge.net/projects/pclosmedical/). As Sebastian mentioned, there's an appliance of GNUMed on SUSE Studio that works. Matt said about the use the "modified files" feature on SUSE Studio. It's something I'll start now and I'll be back soon. Thanks for your help Stathis -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-medical+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-medical+owner@opensuse.org
Le 15 déc. 2011 à 11:48, Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr) a écrit :
As Andreas mentioned, it's not cross distro issue since all distros have different tools to create live media.
You focus too much on the pure IT aspect of the project. Do not forget the medical side which can be shared between the different teams, while I'm not sure that there are many MD is the lists... If you want to pursue this reflection I'll be pleased to help. ----- Eric Maeker, MD (Fr) http://www.freemedforms.com http://www.ericmaeker.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-medical+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-medical+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:48:49 AM Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr) wrote:
As Andreas mentioned, it's not cross distro issue since all distros have different tools to create live media.
I have worked on this for years now and I can tell you this. Aside from all tools and distributions, let alone operating systems there are some common issues. 1.) bootstrap stage 2.) binary stage 3.) runtime stage No matter what tool you use you have to care about a) getting a working system which will give you a fully functional EMR (uncluding running database to store data) b) preserve any data the user puts in during runtime (after booting and surving reboots) a has been done both for OpenSUSE and Debian. b is a matter of setting it up. There is absolutely no magic to it. Takes only like a week or so to fully understand the different tools and read the documentation. Then you can redo it whenever you like. Sebastian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-medical+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-medical+owner@opensuse.org
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