Dear all,
My name is Nelson and I'm finishing my University degree on Marketing Management by IPAM[1] in Portugal.
I used SuSE Linux from 5.2/5.3 to 7.0 on my personal computers (somewhere since 98 to 2001) and used Red Hat on work (worked as sysadmin for a company that now is part of GFI International[2] and PT Inovação S.A.[3] in Mobile Networks Services, the research and development unit from Portugal Telecom).
Currently I use Fedora 13, where I'm also a contributor for Fedora Marketing Team.
I've joined this list after being pointed by Andreas on the Fedora Marketing lists.
The reason why I'm writting this email is because I plan to submit a paper which is also based on previous Fedora Marketing list traffic which suggested that in many things we could work together.
To be honest, in a way due to the purpose of my work (academical, scientific or work related), I fit better in the audiences targeted by openSUSE than exactly by Fedora. This are the two Community Distributions I admire the most, due mainly to the background relation I have with both.
SuSE GmbH in 2001 sponsored one event I organized under PLUG (Portuguese Linux Users Group, now extint in favor of the walking corpse Linux.PT[4], where I was responsible for Documentation in Portuguese). This event gathered aroud 400/500 visitors during 2 days on a February weekend. I've also translated some Documentation (kernel frame buffer devices mainly) into Portuguese to the POLI Project, which is another project that died from lack of activity.
My perspective over FOSS isn't shared by many, when I'm actually one of the big defenders of the importance of commercial software for several reasons. This is mainly due to my head being formatted in a Marketing Management way, and not exactly on a FOSS way.
I plan to build my paper based on several topics which have not been yet decided, though I plan to have the following:
25% of available time to activities with the audience > to establish two basic things: # Promote the out-of-the-box concept present in all of us, many times ignored by pre-formated ideas. Very exploited in Marketing. # Establish a dynamic about 'the concept of Marketing' > and how we should actually face it. There is no right or wrong, on the contrary, there exist lots of perspectives. I would like to share those that better fit in the scope of Community Linux Distributions (no sales, but still a trade happens), alongside with the very basic concepts of Marketing Mix and eventually Communication Mix.
25% of time > Subject: The importance of Marketing in FOSS Communities and Products. Won't approach 'services' (products are generally seen as tangible, while services are intangible).
Remaining 50% > Present a set of ideas that can be developed around possible cooperation between different Distribution Communities in order to promote our products through cooperation and sharing audiences (we all know that Fedora and openSUSE target different 'user bases', we are promoting different things, but we can still work together as Marketing contributors just like the upstream contributors do). One example of maybe a success on this field is eventually the Project started by Red Hat Inc[5] aiming to providing easier usage Networking on Linux (NetworkManager[6]) which many of us use today. Novell[7] and openSUSE[8] also have given very important steps to fulfil this goal, for example, KNetworkManager[9] can be a fine example of cooperation on this field.
I would like to thank Novell and openSUSE to place very positive synergies on the FOSS community through one of the best products (non-commercial Linux) that I know, and that for a long time had a comfortable place on my Desktop/Workstation, and of course all their community contributors.
Thanks all,
nmarques.
References: [1] - http://www.ipam.pt [2] - http://www.gfi.pt [3] - http://www.ptinovacao.pt [4] - http://www.linux.pt [5] - http://www.redhat.com [6] - http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/ [7] - http://www.novell.com [8] - http://www.opensuse.org [9] - http://en.opensuse.org/KNetworkManager
** Reply Requested by 6/24/2010 (Thursday) **
Welcome aboard Nelson
We are all so glad to Have you working with us, We will be so proud if our openSUSE community will be successful in help you with your academic and professional needs.
Nelson Marques nmo.marques@gmail.com 24 Junho, 2010 >>>
Dear all,
My name is Nelson and I'm finishing my University degree on Marketing Management by IPAM[1] in Portugal.
I used SuSE Linux from 5.2/5.3 to 7.0 on my personal computers (somewhere since 98 to 2001) and used Red Hat on work (worked as sysadmin for a company that now is part of GFI International[2] and
PT
Inovação S.A.[3] in Mobile Networks Services, the research and development unit from Portugal Telecom).
Currently I use Fedora 13, where I'm also a contributor for Fedora Marketing Team.
I've joined this list after being pointed by Andreas on the Fedora Marketing lists.
The reason why I'm writting this email is because I plan to submit a paper which is also based on previous Fedora Marketing list traffic which suggested that in many things We could work together.
Sure your papers will be more than welcome and also help the event be more valuable to everyone
To be honest, in a way due to the purpose of my work (academical, scientific or work related), I fit better in the audiences targeted
by
openSUSE than exactly by Fedora. This are the two Community Distributions I admire the most, due mainly to the background relation
I
Have with both.
SuSE GmbH in 2001 sponsored one event I organized under PLUG (Portuguese Linux Users Group, now extint in favor of the walking
corpse
Linux.PT[4], where I was responsible for Documentation in
Portuguese).
This event gathered aroud 400/500 visitors during 2 days on a
February
weekend.
Really, Really good to know... Can you share this materials with me, sorry because I didn't had introduced myself to you, but in general lines, I'm working on openSUSE marketing for Brasil Linux ecosystem and communities, then ... We Have a lot of words and materials to exchange to each other - nao é mesmo meu amigo!
I've also translated some Documentation (kernel frame buffer devices mainly) into Portuguese to the POLI Project, which is another project that died from lack of activity.
My perspective over FOSS isn't shared by many, when I'm actually one
of
the big defenders of the importance of commercial software for
several
reasons. This is mainly due to my head being formatted in a Marketing Management way, and not exactly on a FOSS way.
I plan to build my paper based on several topics which Have not been yet decided, though I plan to Have the following:
25% of available time to activities with the audience > to establish two basic things: # Promote the out-of-the-box concept present in all of us, many
times
ignored by pre-formated ideas. Very exploited in Marketing. # Establish a dynamic about 'the concept of Marketing' > and how We should actually face it. There is no right or wrong, on the contrary, there exist lots of perspectives. I would like to share those that better fit in the scope of Community Linux Distributions (no sales,
but
still a trade happens), alongside with the very basic concepts of Marketing Mix and eventually Communication Mix.
25% of time > Subject: The importance of Marketing in FOSS
Communities
and Products. Won't approach 'services' (products are generally seen
as
tangible, while services are intangible).
Remaining 50% > Present a set of ideas that can be developed around possible cooperation between different Distribution Communities in
order
to promote our products through cooperation and sharing audiences (We all know that Fedora and openSUSE target different 'user bases', We
are
promoting different things, but We can still work together as
Marketing
contributors just like the upstream contributors do). One example of maybe a success on this field is eventually the Project started by
Red
Hat Inc[5] aiming to providing easier usage Networking on Linux (NetworkManager[6]) which many of us use today. Novell[7] and openSUSE[8] also Have given very important steps to fulfil this goal, for example, KNetworkManager[9] can be a fine example of cooperation
on
this field.
I would like to thank Novell and openSUSE to place very positive synergies on the FOSS community through one of the best products (non-commercial Linux) that I know, and that for a long time had a comfortable place on my Desktop/Workstation, and of course all their community contributors.
Very good and interesting point, At this moment We are talking just about some of the above topics you pointed and your thoughts will be much valuable to the project.
by the way... openSUSE Board and its Strategy Team Have worked on three strategic proposals to define the direction of openSUSE*s future, as a Project, Community and distribution. Each strategy proposal includes the same community statement. We will therefore discuss the community statement and the three strategies separately. http://news.opensuse.org/2010/06/17/a-strategy-for-the-opensuse-project-prop... Your contributions will be much appreciated.
adding more value to our first first ;-) I would like to invite you to participate in our marketing irc meetings At http://news.opensuse.org/2010/02/24/opensuse-marketing-irc-meeting/ http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings
Our openSUSE Marketing Team page Have some interesting informations that can help you to be more involved and contribute more effectively with openSUSE project. http://en.opensuse.org/Marketing/Team
If you Have any specific point you wish to start to talk about right now... hands up and ... Have a lot of fun!
Let's start to speak and help each other and make Collaboration across Borders turns to real ! http://en.opensuse.org/Conference_2010
About your papers, you can submit they here http://news.opensuse.org/2010/05/31/opensuse-conference-2010-call-for-papers...
ou em portugues ;-) http://pt.opensuse.org/Conference_2010 http://pt.opensuse.org/Conference_2010/Call_For_Papers
Muitiiiisimo obrigado keep in touch CarlosRibeiro
Thanks all,
nmarques.
References: [1] - http://www.ipam.pt [2] - http://www.gfi.pt [3] - http://www.ptinovacao.pt [4] - http://www.linux.pt [5] - http://www.redhat.com [6] - http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/ [7] - http://www.novell.com [8] - http://www.opensuse.org [9] - http://en.opensuse.org/KNetworkManager
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Carlos,
Thanks for your kind words. This is actually the first time I've decided to submit or present a paper into a FOSS event.
At the moment due to several personal projects, work and school I've got too much stuff on my hands to engage on a serious approach of openSUSE, there's a couple of things I need to finish on Fedora first. And to be honest I don't really know if I can help FOSS, because in many ways my head is formated to another view, which is very diferent from the approaches on FOSS worlds.
I'm not sure on what the future will be, but you are free to add me to Google chat, as anyone else interested.
There are some points that are personal, and we haven spoken a bit already on the IRC, as you know, I'm not the traditional FOSS enthusiast. I would like though to have openSUSE commited in establishing a community in Portugal and if someone wants to lead that project, I'm sure we have people in Portugal on the list, I will provide all the support I can and all the knowledge I can, as in a later stage I would like such community to be active in PLUG and help us taking Linux to the common users.
Makes sense?
nelson
On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 22:47 -0300, Carlos Ribeiro wrote:
** Reply Requested by 6/24/2010 (Thursday) **
Welcome aboard Nelson
We are all so glad to Have you working with us, We will be so proud if our openSUSE community will be successful in help you with your academic and professional needs.
Nelson Marques nmo.marques@gmail.com 24 Junho, 2010 >>>
Dear all,
My name is Nelson and I'm finishing my University degree on Marketing Management by IPAM[1] in Portugal.
I used SuSE Linux from 5.2/5.3 to 7.0 on my personal computers (somewhere since 98 to 2001) and used Red Hat on work (worked as sysadmin for a company that now is part of GFI International[2] and
PT
Inovação S.A.[3] in Mobile Networks Services, the research and development unit from Portugal Telecom).
Currently I use Fedora 13, where I'm also a contributor for Fedora Marketing Team.
I've joined this list after being pointed by Andreas on the Fedora Marketing lists.
The reason why I'm writting this email is because I plan to submit a paper which is also based on previous Fedora Marketing list traffic which suggested that in many things We could work together.
Sure your papers will be more than welcome and also help the event be more valuable to everyone
To be honest, in a way due to the purpose of my work (academical, scientific or work related), I fit better in the audiences targeted
by
openSUSE than exactly by Fedora. This are the two Community Distributions I admire the most, due mainly to the background relation
I
Have with both.
SuSE GmbH in 2001 sponsored one event I organized under PLUG (Portuguese Linux Users Group, now extint in favor of the walking
corpse
Linux.PT[4], where I was responsible for Documentation in
Portuguese).
This event gathered aroud 400/500 visitors during 2 days on a
February
weekend.
Really, Really good to know... Can you share this materials with me, sorry because I didn't had introduced myself to you, but in general lines, I'm working on openSUSE marketing for Brasil Linux ecosystem and communities, then ... We Have a lot of words and materials to exchange to each other - nao é mesmo meu amigo!
I've also translated some Documentation (kernel frame buffer devices mainly) into Portuguese to the POLI Project, which is another project that died from lack of activity.
My perspective over FOSS isn't shared by many, when I'm actually one
of
the big defenders of the importance of commercial software for
several
reasons. This is mainly due to my head being formatted in a Marketing Management way, and not exactly on a FOSS way.
I plan to build my paper based on several topics which Have not been yet decided, though I plan to Have the following:
25% of available time to activities with the audience > to establish two basic things: # Promote the out-of-the-box concept present in all of us, many
times
ignored by pre-formated ideas. Very exploited in Marketing. # Establish a dynamic about 'the concept of Marketing' > and how We should actually face it. There is no right or wrong, on the contrary, there exist lots of perspectives. I would like to share those that better fit in the scope of Community Linux Distributions (no sales,
but
still a trade happens), alongside with the very basic concepts of Marketing Mix and eventually Communication Mix.
25% of time > Subject: The importance of Marketing in FOSS
Communities
and Products. Won't approach 'services' (products are generally seen
as
tangible, while services are intangible).
Remaining 50% > Present a set of ideas that can be developed around possible cooperation between different Distribution Communities in
order
to promote our products through cooperation and sharing audiences (We all know that Fedora and openSUSE target different 'user bases', We
are
promoting different things, but We can still work together as
Marketing
contributors just like the upstream contributors do). One example of maybe a success on this field is eventually the Project started by
Red
Hat Inc[5] aiming to providing easier usage Networking on Linux (NetworkManager[6]) which many of us use today. Novell[7] and openSUSE[8] also Have given very important steps to fulfil this goal, for example, KNetworkManager[9] can be a fine example of cooperation
on
this field.
I would like to thank Novell and openSUSE to place very positive synergies on the FOSS community through one of the best products (non-commercial Linux) that I know, and that for a long time had a comfortable place on my Desktop/Workstation, and of course all their community contributors.
Very good and interesting point, At this moment We are talking just about some of the above topics you pointed and your thoughts will be much valuable to the project.
by the way... openSUSE Board and its Strategy Team Have worked on three strategic proposals to define the direction of openSUSE*s future, as a Project, Community and distribution. Each strategy proposal includes the same community statement. We will therefore discuss the community statement and the three strategies separately. http://news.opensuse.org/2010/06/17/a-strategy-for-the-opensuse-project-prop... Your contributions will be much appreciated.
adding more value to our first first ;-) I would like to invite you to participate in our marketing irc meetings At http://news.opensuse.org/2010/02/24/opensuse-marketing-irc-meeting/ http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings
Our openSUSE Marketing Team page Have some interesting informations that can help you to be more involved and contribute more effectively with openSUSE project. http://en.opensuse.org/Marketing/Team
If you Have any specific point you wish to start to talk about right now... hands up and ... Have a lot of fun!
Let's start to speak and help each other and make Collaboration across Borders turns to real ! http://en.opensuse.org/Conference_2010
About your papers, you can submit they here http://news.opensuse.org/2010/05/31/opensuse-conference-2010-call-for-papers...
ou em portugues ;-) http://pt.opensuse.org/Conference_2010 http://pt.opensuse.org/Conference_2010/Call_For_Papers
Muitiiiisimo obrigado keep in touch CarlosRibeiro
Thanks all,
nmarques.
References: [1] - http://www.ipam.pt [2] - http://www.gfi.pt [3] - http://www.ptinovacao.pt [4] - http://www.linux.pt [5] - http://www.redhat.com [6] - http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/ [7] - http://www.novell.com [8] - http://www.opensuse.org [9] - http://en.opensuse.org/KNetworkManager
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