On 10/06/2010 01:52 PM, Michael Loeffler wrote:

This is a great idea I more then appreciate that we re-animate the shop as it currently doesn't get the love it deserves. I need to find the access details for the shop so you guys can change/add stuff.

Sounds good . I would like to know the process of the shop / maintain the shop in more detail . So if anyone can guide me through , it would be cool .

Best Michael

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Looking forward to hear from you ....

Cheers Shayon (Sj)

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Well... As I as informed a few seconds ago, our geeko friend Shayon is not in Asia anymore, moves to US but the main idea about still there . "multicultural / geographically spread logic still works" by our friend kknundy during irc conversation and for openSUSE Shop even works better I think. best multicultural regards to all CarlosRibeiro Em Qua, 2010-10-06 às 17:28 -0300, Carlos Ribeiro escreveu:

So far so good, I believe including me, we already have 3 interested geekos about this threat and the better is that each one is from different areas, Europe, South America and meridional Asia. Having such different cultures working together and focusing on same objective results in several and different ideas that could be mixed and implemented through the openSUSE "future" shop.

Em Qua, 2010-10-06 às 14:22 -0500, Shayon Mukherjee escreveu:

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On 10/06/2010 01:52 PM, Michael Loeffler wrote:

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This is a great idea I more then appreciate that we re-animate the shop as it currently doesn't get the love it deserves. I need to find the access details for the shop so you guys can change/add stuff.

Sounds good . I would like to know the process of the shop / maintain the shop in more detail . So if anyone can guide me through , it would be cool .

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Best Michael

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Looking forward to hear from you ....

Cheers Shayon (Sj)

Thanks !

Cheers ! Sj

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On 06.10.2010, at 23:17, Shayon Mukherjee wrote:

On 10/06/2010 04:08 PM, Carlos Ribeiro wrote:

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Well... As I as informed a few seconds ago, our geeko friend Shayon is not in Asia anymore, moves to US but the main idea about still there .

"multicultural / geographically spread logic still works" by our friend kknundy during irc conversation

and for openSUSE Shop even works better I think.

best multicultural regards to all CarlosRibeiro

Em Qua, 2010-10-06 às 17:28 -0300, Carlos Ribeiro escreveu:

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So far so good, I believe including me, we already have 3 interested geekos about this threat and the better is that each one is from different areas, Europe, South America and meridional Asia. Having such different cultures working together and focusing on same objective results in several and different ideas that could be mixed and implemented through the openSUSE "future" shop.

Hi all,

Well good to know that , heh ! . Yes I am in US now. So where are we leading with this ?I mean Is a meeting required to jot things down and start with the task ? Or something else .?

Hey all! About the shop ... we use Spreadshirt [1] as provider and include the spreadshiert-shop via iframe into our website. The stuff running on shop.o.o is static html, so no voodoo :-) I plan to move the stuff we have right now to the new Bento theme in the next time. As far as I remember we have two shops at Spreadshirt. One for Americas and one for EU/Asia/Africa. But we don't cover all countries on this way because Spreadshirt is not shipping to e.g. most African countries. I have to look into the whole shop story again. Get the login data together and so on. If you have any questions just let me know, I will give my best to deliver good answers ;-) Thank you and have a good time! Robert [1] http://www.spreadshirt.com/

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On 10/07/2010 09:39 AM, Manu Gupta wrote:

Hi There are a few websites in India that can take care of the shop too

http://www.myntra.com/

They usually reply fast ie within a week.

Contacting them could be good.. they even do 20 - 30 tshirts :)

However, the only think we need to keep in mind is for India we cannot keep the rate as high as in Europe/ US otherwise no one will buy them. Standard t- shirt rates in India 3 - 6 Euros ie 3 is optimal and 6 is worst case scenario again.

Theres one more site

http://www.24hoursloot.com/ that delivers only in India

you can see it here too...

However I am not sure whether they will allow to keep this up in our website.. if we wish too, contacting them can help.. Also I am not sure about the distribution of profits(if we do that).. as I have not been involved in that kind of exchang

Hello all , Thanks Robert for the update. Ping anytime (one of us) in case you need some help with the tasks. About the shops : My experience with Myntra was not good, the product described is not exactly (100%) what they send.It differs in respect to quality and design .Also I am not sure if country specific stores will benefit or feasible.I guess Robert can answer that.Else , sounds good to me. *Spreadshirt +1 After the update is done (current ---> Bento). I would like to see some more designs in the store.So how we do that ? I have some options with me. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

On 10/07/2010 11:03 AM, Michael Loeffler wrote:

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Hello all ,

Thanks Robert for the update. Ping anytime (one of us) in case you need some help with the tasks.

About the shops : My experience with Myntra was not good, the product described is not exactly (100%) what they send.It differs in respect to quality and design .Also I am not sure if country specific stores will benefit or feasible.I guess Robert can answer that.Else , sounds good to me. *Spreadshirt +1

I'd focus first on the existing spreadshirt shop and enhance here and wouldn't add any new shops for regions spreadshirt isn't shipping to. Each additional shop adds work.

+1 . And how do you plan to enhance ? I feel that , we should upload/create few more designs . In other words , give users/public more options to choose from . I find the current state is really limited . Also we can add lot many other stuffs like Mugs , stickers , etc . In designs (for Sweatshirts and T-shirts)- we already have some good logo's . Things which we actually require are some real good slogans.Which would make the users feel good , wearing them- that said it should make them feel geeky and show the openSUSE (Gecko) love. Something like: Geek by nature , Linux by choice - Re-phrase -->> Geek by nature , openSUSE by choice. The above is just an example :) . Also we need to investigate more on the taste of the openSUSE lovers. I mean how or what actually they want to show their love towards openSUSE (through our shop-this , we need to figure out) . I hope I made myself clear ...

What we do currently with spreadshirt is that we've chosen some items, gave them an openSUSE design and set our price tag. Our price tag, what dose this mean ? Spreadshirt sell their stuff at their price. Let's take a something which would cost 15 €/$ per unit. We add normally 1 or 2 €/$ and sell it then for more. This difference (1 or 2 €/$) then goes into our pockets. This "our pockets" is currently Novell as openSUSE isn't yet a legal entity. With an openSUSE Foundation we could redirect this income to the Foundation. And to give you a better picture - we're not talking about a high sales rate. So we sell with the two shops 30 items a month we have a good month.

Nice! And more options make ---> MORE SALE ;) Any other ideas are welcome .. :)

Best M

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On 08.10.2010, at 10:02, Michael Loeffler wrote:

Moin, On Friday 08 October 2010 02:41:06 Shayon Mukherjee wrote:

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On 10/07/2010 11:03 AM, Michael Loeffler wrote:

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Hello all ,

Thanks Robert for the update. Ping anytime (one of us) in case you need some help with the tasks.

About the shops : My experience with Myntra was not good, the product described is not exactly (100%) what they send.It differs in respect to quality and design .Also I am not sure if country specific stores will benefit or feasible.I guess Robert can answer that.Else , sounds good to me. *Spreadshirt +1

I'd focus first on the existing spreadshirt shop and enhance here and wouldn't add any new shops for regions spreadshirt isn't shipping to. Each additional shop adds work.

+1 . And how do you plan to enhance ? I feel that , we should upload/create few more designs . In other words , give users/public more options to choose from . I find the current state is really limited . Also we can add lot many other stuffs like Mugs , stickers , etc . Fully agreed.

+1

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In designs (for Sweatshirts and T-shirts)- we already have some good logo's . Things which we actually require are some real good slogans.Which would make the users feel good , wearing them- that said it should make them feel geeky and show the openSUSE (Gecko) love.

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Something like: Geek by nature , Linux by choice - Re-phrase -->> Geek by nature , openSUSE by choice. The above is just an example :) .

In 2007 we had a "slogan" contest. The winner was:

openSUSE - Linux for open minds

Why not using that ?

And this was the collection of slogans we received: http://old-en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Slogan

What about the "/me ha fun!" under the openSUSE logo? ;-) How ever, one thing is, that we have just a basic account at Spreadshirt. This give us some limitations like we can upload only -not sure- 3 vector images. We can upload as many bitmap-images as we want, but this can be printed only on white background. @michl: Maybe we should think about a pro account? It would bring many advantages like localised shops and so on. Next thing is, that we need to summarise spreadhirts rules and our brand guide to a how to. So that people in the community can contribute artwork which work. So far :-) Robert

Best Michael

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Also we need to investigate more on the taste of the openSUSE lovers. I mean how or what actually they want to show their love towards openSUSE (through our shop-this , we need to figure out) . I hope I made myself clear ...

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What we do currently with spreadshirt is that we've chosen some items, gave them an openSUSE design and set our price tag. Our price tag, what dose this mean ? Spreadshirt sell their stuff at their price. Let's take a something which would cost 15 €/$ per unit. We add normally 1 or 2 €/$ and sell it then for more. This difference (1 or 2 €/$) then goes into our pockets. This "our pockets" is currently Novell as openSUSE isn't yet a legal entity. With an openSUSE Foundation we could redirect this income to the Foundation. And to give you a better picture - we're not talking about a high sales rate. So we sell with the two shops 30 items a month we have a good month.

Nice! And more options make ---> MORE SALE ;)

Any other ideas are welcome .. :)

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Best M

Cheers ! Sj

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Am Freitag 08 Oktober 2010, 18:26:34 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:

On Friday 08 October 2010 12:21:51 Robert Lihm wrote:

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@michl: Maybe we should think about a pro account? It would bring many advantages like localised shops and so on.

As soon as you really bump into limitations (eg you have more than three good SVG designs etc) let me know. But initially, I prefer to start with just a few things, then do an announcement on news.opensuse.org about the re-vitalized shop and see if people like it. If they do order things, the number of SVG's you can upload will be increased, afaik, so we can grow organically.

sorry Jos its actually no good idea to start with "few things" because for upload ur own motives u need a professional account on spreadshirt. Then u can upload every month 20 motives. )

Of course - if the shop is popular enough at some point we can surely upgrade to pro.

So there is no choice on the end as get an proffessional account, but that costs first money ;) br gnokii -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

On 08.10.2010, at 19:14, S.Kemter wrote:

Am Freitag 08 Oktober 2010, 18:26:34 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:

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On Friday 08 October 2010 12:21:51 Robert Lihm wrote:

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@michl: Maybe we should think about a pro account? It would bring many advantages like localised shops and so on.

As soon as you really bump into limitations (eg you have more than three good SVG designs etc) let me know. But initially, I prefer to start with just a few things, then do an announcement on news.opensuse.org about the re-vitalized shop and see if people like it. If they do order things, the number of SVG's you can upload will be increased, afaik, so we can grow organically.

sorry Jos its actually no good idea to start with "few things" because for upload ur own motives u need a professional account on spreadshirt. Then u can upload every month 20 motives.

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We already started with view designs ;-) And are you sure with the 20 templates?

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Of course - if the shop is popular enough at some point we can surely upgrade to pro.

So there is no choice on the end as get an proffessional account, but that costs first money ;)

+1 I think finally we will need a pro-account. Robert

br gnokii

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On Tuesday 12 October 2010 11:37:52 Robert Lihm wrote:

On 08.10.2010, at 20:23, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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On Friday 08 October 2010 19:14:23 S.Kemter wrote:

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Am Freitag 08 Oktober 2010, 18:26:34 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:

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On Friday 08 October 2010 12:21:51 Robert Lihm wrote:

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@michl: Maybe we should think about a pro account? It would bring many advantages like localised shops and so on.

As soon as you really bump into limitations (eg you have more than three good SVG designs etc) let me know. But initially, I prefer to start with just a few things, then do an announcement on news.opensuse.org about the re-vitalized shop and see if people like it. If they do order things, the number of SVG's you can upload will be increased, afaik, so we can grow organically.

sorry Jos its actually no good idea to start with "few things" because for upload ur own motives u need a professional account on spreadshirt. Then u can upload every month 20 motives.

But why would you? Can't we first put up a few good designs then see if ppl like it or not?

+1

But isn't our current revenue hight enough to refinance the pro-acount? Yes, it is high enough. M

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Of course - if the shop is popular enough at some point we can surely upgrade to pro.

So there is no choice on the end as get an proffessional account, but that costs first money ;)

br gnokii

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On Tuesday 12 October 2010 11:59:35 Michael Loeffler wrote:

On Tuesday 12 October 2010 11:37:52 Robert Lihm wrote:

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On 08.10.2010, at 20:23, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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On Friday 08 October 2010 19:14:23 S.Kemter wrote:

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Am Freitag 08 Oktober 2010, 18:26:34 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:

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On Friday 08 October 2010 12:21:51 Robert Lihm wrote:

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@michl: Maybe we should think about a pro account? It would bring many advantages like localised shops and so on.

As soon as you really bump into limitations (eg you have more than three good SVG designs etc) let me know. But initially, I prefer to start with just a few things, then do an announcement on news.opensuse.org about the re-vitalized shop and see if people like it. If they do order things, the number of SVG's you can upload will be increased, afaik, so we can grow organically.

sorry Jos its actually no good idea to start with "few things" because for upload ur own motives u need a professional account on spreadshirt. Then u can upload every month 20 motives.

But why would you? Can't we first put up a few good designs then see if ppl like it or not?

+1

But isn't our current revenue hight enough to refinance the pro-acount?

Yes, it is high enough. M

Fine, let's do it then.

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Of course - if the shop is popular enough at some point we can surely upgrade to pro.

So there is no choice on the end as get an proffessional account, but that costs first money ;)

br gnokii

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On 12.10.2010, at 13:33, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

On Tuesday 12 October 2010 11:59:35 Michael Loeffler wrote:

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On Tuesday 12 October 2010 11:37:52 Robert Lihm wrote:

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On 08.10.2010, at 20:23, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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On Friday 08 October 2010 19:14:23 S.Kemter wrote:

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Am Freitag 08 Oktober 2010, 18:26:34 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:

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On Friday 08 October 2010 12:21:51 Robert Lihm wrote: > @michl: Maybe we should think about a pro account? It would bring > many advantages like localised shops and so on.

As soon as you really bump into limitations (eg you have more than three good SVG designs etc) let me know. But initially, I prefer to start with just a few things, then do an announcement on news.opensuse.org about the re-vitalized shop and see if people like it. If they do order things, the number of SVG's you can upload will be increased, afaik, so we can grow organically.

sorry Jos its actually no good idea to start with "few things" because for upload ur own motives u need a professional account on spreadshirt. Then u can upload every month 20 motives.

But why would you? Can't we first put up a few good designs then see if ppl like it or not?

+1

But isn't our current revenue hight enough to refinance the pro-acount?

Yes, it is high enough. M

Fine, let's do it then.

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Is anybody there who can help with openSUSE guidelines for the shop ? Or should I ask later , as I see most them busy with the conference ... Cheers Sj -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

As you might know I was out on the mountains for 8 days without electricity so excuse my late response,can you explain me a little more how can someone help? 2010/10/27 Jos Poortvliet :

For those who DO have some time now - see below :D

On 2010-10-19 Shayon wrote:

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  Is anybody there who can help with openSUSE guidelines for the shop ? Or should I ask later , as I see most them busy with the conference ...

Cheers Sj

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On Friday 26 November 2010 11:12:38 Michael Loeffler wrote:

Moin,

On Monday 01 November 2010 21:46:59 Kostas Koudaras wrote:

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As you might know I was out on the mountains for 8 days without electricity so excuse my late response,can you explain me a little more how can someone help?

my idea is to give more people access to shop.opensuse.org so the shop gets more attractive and getting an professional account (or how ever this thing is named). We can pay the cost for it directly from the income of the shop.

As I'm leaving today there is one person less with access to the shop. But Robert has access too and in the near future I hope some of you guys as well.

Best Michael

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2010/10/27 Jos Poortvliet :

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For those who DO have some time now - see below :D

On 2010-10-19 Shayon wrote:

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Is anybody there who can help with openSUSE guidelines for the shop ?

Or should I ask later , as I see most them busy with the conference ...

Cheers Sj

The shop came up again, robert, manu, can you guys help t0xa with getting involved with the shop?