Hi all,
If you believe we can develop this, I've taken some time to introduce this in a very superficial way, easy enough for everyone to understand.
The document[1] is on a pirate pad. From the concepts to operational deployment there's actually not much. It's meant to be used in the future as guidelines so we do things in a coherent form.
Every single product being sold out there has it's own mix, we should have ours, though we don't sell anything :)
The first step is on me... help establishing the points we need, then I'll move to stage 2 again. It's important that's you (the community with more experience) to define this and not me. Once it's done, I'll take your input and make it into a working tool and will help in deployment.
[1] - http://piratepad.net/PcPEkhGf2l
nelson
Interesting stuff Nelson and well structured.
The shift from perceiving openSUSE as a service rather than a product - this makes sense to me but seems like a dramatically different approach to the current model. Has this been discussed among the marketing team and broader project at some time? It is a major conceptual shift, so we all need to be "on the same page".
A separate, small point regarding the pricing and your mention of not threatening our commercial partners - this shouldn't be an issue, as the commercial product involves considerable support efforts to maintain stability and currency of the release - commercial customers aren't going to want the cutting-edge community edition and the bugs that come along with it :)
best,
Helen
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Nelson Marques nmo.marques@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
If you believe we can develop this, I've taken some time to introduce this in a very superficial way, easy enough for everyone to understand.
The document[1] is on a pirate pad. From the concepts to operational deployment there's actually not much. It's meant to be used in the future as guidelines so we do things in a coherent form.
Every single product being sold out there has it's own mix, we should have ours, though we don't sell anything :)
The first step is on me... help establishing the points we need, then I'll move to stage 2 again. It's important that's you (the community with more experience) to define this and not me. Once it's done, I'll take your input and make it into a working tool and will help in deployment.
[1] - http://piratepad.net/PcPEkhGf2l
nelson
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On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 07:10 +1100, Helen wrote:
Interesting stuff Nelson and well structured.
The shift from perceiving openSUSE as a service rather than a product
- this makes sense to me but seems like a dramatically different
approach to the current model. Has this been discussed among the marketing team and broader project at some time? It is a major conceptual shift, so we all need to be "on the same page".
There doesn't need to be changes in what is already done. We only need to consider those for future reference so we remain coherent and change whatever is done in the future.
A separate, small point regarding the pricing and your mention of not threatening our commercial partners -
It doesn't need to be taken that serious, but I mean, there's a openSUSE shop which sells boxed editions and so on. We need to keep a differentiation somewhere in our communication.
Some defend the Mix should reflect your positioning/differentiation, I believe one complements the other 8). We don't need to think a lot on Pricing stuff, because it's kinda irrelevant, though I tried to highlight things a bit so that people could understand it has a reason to be there.
The very 2 important points are: * PEOPLE * PROCESSES
This is what we need sharpen up, the rest is pretty much already known to all of us.
this shouldn't be an issue, as the commercial product involves considerable support efforts to maintain stability and currency of the release - commercial customers aren't going to want the cutting-edge community edition and the bugs that come along with it :)
best,
Helen
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Nelson Marques nmo.marques@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
If you believe we can develop this, I've taken some time to introduce this in a very superficial way, easy enough for everyone to understand.
The document[1] is on a pirate pad. From the concepts to operational deployment there's actually not much. It's meant to be used in the future as guidelines so we do things in a coherent form.
Every single product being sold out there has it's own mix, we should have ours, though we don't sell anything :)
The first step is on me... help establishing the points we need, then I'll move to stage 2 again. It's important that's you (the community with more experience) to define this and not me. Once it's done, I'll take your input and make it into a working tool and will help in deployment.
[1] - http://piratepad.net/PcPEkhGf2l
nelson
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