Hi all,
There was a recent post on reddit (https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/m1xl56/is_opensuse_leap_ready_to_be_...) that made us take a look at how to present our lifecycle page (https://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime) and info to be added to the marketing of Leap 15.3.
There were several comments on reddit that can be summarized as there is a lack of clear information on how long the lifecycle of Leap 15.x will be going forward. When the info on https://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime was originally written, there was some clarity on major versions lasting a minimum of 36 months. We know Leap 42 and 15 exceeded that lifecycle. It looks like we're at a point where we evolved and need to provide a bit more clarity for people based on the reddit comments
I propose we change the lifecycle page to include the following sentences and include the info in the marketing of Leap 15.3 and beyond (for the foreseeable future):
Leap *Major Release* (15.x) extends maintenance and support until a successor. At present, a successor has not been declared; Leap 15's lifecycle fully aligns with SUSE Linux Enterprise. There is a projection as of March 2021 that Leap 15 will extend to Leap 15.5. Both major versions of Leap 42 and 15 were supported more than 36 months.
Any thoughts, changes, removals or additions to the above sentences.
v/r Doug
ddemaio composed on 2021-03-11 15:13 (UTC+0100):
Both major versions of Leap 42 and 15 were supported more than 36 months.
This reads as though 15 is no longer supported.
On 3/11/21 5:44 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
ddemaio composed on 2021-03-11 15:13 (UTC+0100):
Both major versions of Leap 42 and 15 were supported more than 36 months.
This reads as though 15 is no longer supported.
I was actually thinking this sentence should be deleted, but think it might be important for background knowledge to new users. Do you think it's worth mentioning for context? Does this sentence sound better:
The major version of Leap 42 was supported more than 36 months. The current major version of Leap 15 goes well beyond 36 months of security and maintenance support as stated above.
v/r Doug
ddemaio composed on 2021-03-12 07:22 (UTC+0100):
Felix Miata wrote:
ddemaio composed on 2021-03-11 15:13 (UTC+0100):
Both major versions of Leap 42 and 15 were supported more than 36 months.
This reads as though 15 is no longer supported.
I was actually thinking this sentence should be deleted, but think it might be important for background knowledge to new users. Do you think it's worth mentioning for context? Does this sentence sound better:
The major version of Leap 42 was supported more than 36 months. The current major version of Leap 15 goes well beyond 36 months of security and maintenance support as stated above.
The previous major version of Leap, 42, was supported more than 36 months, while the current major version of Leap, 15, now stands well beyond 36 months of security and maintenance support as stated above.
On Thu 2021-03-11, ddemaio wrote:
There were several comments on reddit that can be summarized as there is a lack of clear information on how long the lifecycle of Leap 15.x will be going forward. When the info on https://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime was originally written, there was some clarity on major versions lasting a minimum of 36 months. We know Leap 42 and 15 exceeded that lifecycle. It looks like we're at a point where we evolved and need to provide a bit more clarity for people based on the reddit comments
Thanks for raising and addressing this, Doug and marketing team!
I propose we change the lifecycle page to include the following sentences and include the info in the marketing of Leap 15.3 and beyond (for the foreseeable future):
Leap *Major Release* (15.x) extends maintenance and support until a successor. At present, a successor has not been declared; Leap 15's lifecycle fully aligns with SUSE Linux Enterprise. There is a projection as of March 2021 that Leap 15 will extend to Leap 15.5. Both major versions of Leap 42 and 15 were supported more than 36 months.
Any thoughts, changes, removals or additions to the above sentences.
How about putting in a (minimum) projected number for Leap 15.x?
With Leap 15.0 in 2018 and Leap 15.4 planned for 2022 we're looking at 4 years + 18 months = 5.5 years at a minimum for the 15.x series.
That would be an even stronger message, wouldn't it?
Gerald
PS: The German version at https://de.opensuse.org/Produktlebensdauer doesn't appear up-to-date with the current English one, yet?
On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 5:17 AM Gerald Pfeifer gp@suse.com wrote:
On Thu 2021-03-11, ddemaio wrote:
There were several comments on reddit that can be summarized as there is a lack of clear information on how long the lifecycle of Leap 15.x will be going forward. When the info on https://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime was originally written, there was some clarity on major versions lasting a minimum of 36 months. We know Leap 42 and 15 exceeded that lifecycle. It looks like we're at a point where we evolved and need to provide a bit more clarity for people based on the reddit comments
Thanks for raising and addressing this, Doug and marketing team!
I propose we change the lifecycle page to include the following sentences and include the info in the marketing of Leap 15.3 and beyond (for the foreseeable future):
Leap *Major Release* (15.x) extends maintenance and support until a successor. At present, a successor has not been declared; Leap 15's lifecycle fully aligns with SUSE Linux Enterprise. There is a projection as of March 2021 that Leap 15 will extend to Leap 15.5. Both major versions of Leap 42 and 15 were supported more than 36 months.
Any thoughts, changes, removals or additions to the above sentences.
How about putting in a (minimum) projected number for Leap 15.x?
With Leap 15.0 in 2018 and Leap 15.4 planned for 2022 we're looking at 4 years + 18 months = 5.5 years at a minimum for the 15.x series.
That would be an even stronger message, wouldn't it?
My understanding is that we're going to have 15.5, so that makes it 7.5 years, no?
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