[opensuse-marketing] Let's Get Organized!

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Robert Martens

1 Jul 2015 1 Jul '15

14:24

I know that we have many discussions spring up around the oSC 15 talks and ongoing discussion around the openSUSE 42 development, and I think that marketing needs to be organized and ready for when the time comes to really push the next release of openSUSE (whatever it ends up being called). So, who do we have here? What do we need to be doing to get ready for the future releases? What can we be doing in the interim to “market” Tumbleweed and the other projects within the greater openSUSE community? This is a huge, HUGE discussion … but this is the place to have it. Let’s get started! Sincerely, Bob Martens -- This electronic communication, including any attached documents, may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information that is intended only for use by the recipient(s) named above. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the communication and any attachments. Views expressed by the author do not necessarily represent those of Martin Luther College. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner@opensuse.org

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Kostas Koudaras

1 Jul 1 Jul

17:08

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I know that we have many discussions spring up around the oSC 15 talks and ongoing discussion around the openSUSE 42 development, and I think that marketing needs to be organized and ready for when the time comes to really push the next release of openSUSE (whatever it ends up being called). We need the name first, after that buisness as usual, reviewing it and writing articles about it :)

So, who do we have here? What do we need to be doing to get ready for the future releases? What can we be doing in the interim to “market” Tumbleweed and the other projects within the greater openSUSE community?

This is a huge, HUGE discussion … but this is the place to have it. Let’s get started! I am not sure there is actually something to discuss as thinks are

2015-07-01 17:24 GMT+03:00 Robert Martens : pretty simple to me. Just go outside and evangelize Tumbleweed and the openSUSE Project. Personally I have some talks planned for Tumbleweed/OBS/KIWI in a few weeks and I will spread the word locally(where it actually matters under my opinion). My opinion is that now is time to act, not a time to talk, but if you feel different and you think there is something that we can come up with after some discution that will make things better, please tell me about it. Kostas

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Sincerely, Bob Martens

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jdd

17:15

Le 01/07/2015 19:08, Kostas Koudaras a écrit :

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We need the name first, after that buisness as usual, reviewing it and writing articles about it :)

well.. we need to see it before :-)) I can talk about tumbleweed and project, but not about 42 :-( I will be there: https://2015.rmll.info/ on the openSUSE/Alionet booth Saturday :-) jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner@opensuse.org

Bob Martens

18:19

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On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Kostas Koudaras wrote:

2015-07-01 17:24 GMT+03:00 Robert Martens :

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I know that we have many discussions spring up around the oSC 15 talks and ongoing discussion around the openSUSE 42 development, and I think that marketing needs to be organized and ready for when the time comes to really push the next release of openSUSE (whatever it ends up being called). We need the name first, after that buisness as usual, reviewing it and writing articles about it :)

I’d agree, the name would be greatly appreciated but I think patience might be needed at the moment.

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So, who do we have here? What do we need to be doing to get ready for the future releases? What can we be doing in the interim to “market” Tumbleweed and the other projects within the greater openSUSE community?

This is a huge, HUGE discussion … but this is the place to have it. Let’s get started!

I am not sure there is actually something to discuss as thinks are pretty simple to me. Just go outside and evangelize Tumbleweed and the openSUSE Project. Personally I have some talks planned for Tumbleweed/OBS/KIWI in a few weeks and I will spread the word locally(where it actually matters under my opinion). My opinion is that now is time to act, not a time to talk, but if you feel different and you think there is something that we can come up with after some discution that will make things better, please tell me about it. Kostas

I’ll agree with this as well, that now is the time to act. I’m not very useful locally because there isn’t a technology scene to speak of where I am and my interest in Linux and openSUSE are mainly as the basis for infrastructure. However, I think there is a benefit to not just working right now, but planning for the rollout of openSUSE 42 in the (near) future. This also coincides with the discussion around focusing marketing efforts on the “makers” of the larger community (developers, sysadmins, etc.) which will require coordination for graphics, articles, “talking points” for clarification, etc. That’s my main thrust. There seems to be an overall feeling by some that marketing does not have the engagement that it deserves, but it is possible that my thoughts are being clouded by loud voices. Sincerely, Bob Martens http://bobmartens.net @boblmartens

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Sarah Julia Kriesch

19:40

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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 01. Juli 2015 um 20:19 Uhr Von: "Bob Martens" An: "Kostas Koudaras" Cc: "Marketing list" Betreff: Re: [opensuse-marketing] Let's Get Organized!

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On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Kostas Koudaras wrote:

2015-07-01 17:24 GMT+03:00 Robert Martens :

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I know that we have many discussions spring up around the oSC 15 talks and ongoing discussion around the openSUSE 42 development, and I think that marketing needs to be organized and ready for when the time comes to really push the next release of openSUSE (whatever it ends up being called). We need the name first, after that buisness as usual, reviewing it and writing articles about it :)

I’d agree, the name would be greatly appreciated but I think patience might be needed at the moment.

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So, who do we have here? What do we need to be doing to get ready for the future releases? What can we be doing in the interim to “market” Tumbleweed and the other projects within the greater openSUSE community?

This is a huge, HUGE discussion … but this is the place to have it. Let’s get started!

I am not sure there is actually something to discuss as thinks are pretty simple to me. Just go outside and evangelize Tumbleweed and the openSUSE Project. Personally I have some talks planned for Tumbleweed/OBS/KIWI in a few weeks and I will spread the word locally(where it actually matters under my opinion). My opinion is that now is time to act, not a time to talk, but if you feel different and you think there is something that we can come up with after some discution that will make things better, please tell me about it. Kostas

I’ll agree with this as well, that now is the time to act. I’m not very useful locally because there isn’t a technology scene to speak of where I am and my interest in Linux and openSUSE are mainly as the basis for infrastructure. However, I think there is a benefit to not just working right now, but planning for the rollout of openSUSE 42 in the (near) future. This also coincides with the discussion around focusing marketing efforts on the “makers” of the larger community (developers, sysadmins, etc.) which will require coordination for graphics, articles, “talking points” for clarification, etc.

That’s my main thrust. There seems to be an overall feeling by some that marketing does not have the engagement that it deserves, but it is possible that my thoughts are being clouded by loud voices.

Sincerely, Bob Martens

I think, we should wait for the right name. Last year I have given a presentation about openSUSE and openSUSE 13.2 at the OpenRheinRuhr. I can do that this year about the coming release again. We need only all the informations of the opensuse-project mailinglist and news. Sometimes you can get strange questions... At the LinuxTag we have been 4 Advocates and a guy has asked, why the community would have got only 10 Members. He wanted to know, how the project can exist. He has read that in the internet. We said, that would be wrong. Other customers wanted to know the effect of the purchase of SUSE on openSUSE. They have been afraidness, whether openSUSE can exist so. That's something of this year and the last year, what has happened. Best regards, Sarah -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner@opensuse.org

Kostas Koudaras

19:42

2015-07-01 21:19 GMT+03:00 Bob Martens :

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On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Kostas Koudaras wrote:

2015-07-01 17:24 GMT+03:00 Robert Martens :

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I know that we have many discussions spring up around the oSC 15 talks and ongoing discussion around the openSUSE 42 development, and I think that marketing needs to be organized and ready for when the time comes to really push the next release of openSUSE (whatever it ends up being called). We need the name first, after that buisness as usual, reviewing it and writing articles about it :)

I’d agree, the name would be greatly appreciated but I think patience might be needed at the moment.

...
...
So, who do we have here? What do we need to be doing to get ready for the future releases? What can we be doing in the interim to “market” Tumbleweed and the other projects within the greater openSUSE community?

This is a huge, HUGE discussion … but this is the place to have it. Let’s get started!

I am not sure there is actually something to discuss as thinks are pretty simple to me. Just go outside and evangelize Tumbleweed and the openSUSE Project. Personally I have some talks planned for Tumbleweed/OBS/KIWI in a few weeks and I will spread the word locally(where it actually matters under my opinion). My opinion is that now is time to act, not a time to talk, but if you feel different and you think there is something that we can come up with after some discution that will make things better, please tell me about it. Kostas

I’ll agree with this as well, that now is the time to act. I’m not very useful locally because there isn’t a technology scene to speak of where I am and my interest in Linux and openSUSE are mainly as the basis for infrastructure. However, I think there is a benefit to not just working right now, but planning for the rollout of openSUSE 42 in the (near) future. This also coincides with the discussion around focusing marketing efforts on the “makers” of the larger community (developers, sysadmins, etc.) which will require coordination for graphics, articles, “talking points” for clarification, etc. Ok, I think I get your point. Please start by making some points for a discussion and let's just start talking about those points.

That’s my main thrust. There seems to be an overall feeling by some that marketing does not have the engagement that it deserves, but it is possible that my thoughts are being clouded by loud voices. We are all the openSUSE Project, here your voice is heard and respected, at least the times that you have something to say and not just talking because you like hearing your voice :P Please by all means, share your thoughts.

Sincerely, Bob Martens

http://bobmartens.net @boblmartens

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Sincerely, Bob Martens

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Bob Martens

2 Jul 2 Jul

16:54

Would it make sense to split it into smaller discussions or to keep it in this thread? Sincerely, Bob Martens http://bobmartens.net @boblmartens

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On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:42 PM, Kostas Koudaras wrote:

2015-07-01 21:19 GMT+03:00 Bob Martens :

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On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Kostas Koudaras wrote:

2015-07-01 17:24 GMT+03:00 Robert Martens :

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I know that we have many discussions spring up around the oSC 15 talks and ongoing discussion around the openSUSE 42 development, and I think that marketing needs to be organized and ready for when the time comes to really push the next release of openSUSE (whatever it ends up being called). We need the name first, after that buisness as usual, reviewing it and writing articles about it :)

I’d agree, the name would be greatly appreciated but I think patience might be needed at the moment.

...
...
So, who do we have here? What do we need to be doing to get ready for the future releases? What can we be doing in the interim to “market” Tumbleweed and the other projects within the greater openSUSE community?

This is a huge, HUGE discussion … but this is the place to have it. Let’s get started!

I am not sure there is actually something to discuss as thinks are pretty simple to me. Just go outside and evangelize Tumbleweed and the openSUSE Project. Personally I have some talks planned for Tumbleweed/OBS/KIWI in a few weeks and I will spread the word locally(where it actually matters under my opinion). My opinion is that now is time to act, not a time to talk, but if you feel different and you think there is something that we can come up with after some discution that will make things better, please tell me about it. Kostas

I’ll agree with this as well, that now is the time to act. I’m not very useful locally because there isn’t a technology scene to speak of where I am and my interest in Linux and openSUSE are mainly as the basis for infrastructure. However, I think there is a benefit to not just working right now, but planning for the rollout of openSUSE 42 in the (near) future. This also coincides with the discussion around focusing marketing efforts on the “makers” of the larger community (developers, sysadmins, etc.) which will require coordination for graphics, articles, “talking points” for clarification, etc. Ok, I think I get your point. Please start by making some points for a discussion and let's just start talking about those points.

That’s my main thrust. There seems to be an overall feeling by some that marketing does not have the engagement that it deserves, but it is possible that my thoughts are being clouded by loud voices. We are all the openSUSE Project, here your voice is heard and respected, at least the times that you have something to say and not just talking because you like hearing your voice :P Please by all means, share your thoughts.

Sincerely, Bob Martens

http://bobmartens.net @boblmartens

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Sincerely, Bob Martens

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