Gesendet: Mittwoch, 07. Mai 2014 um 09:39 Uhr Von: "Françoise Wybrecht"
An: opensuse-marketing Betreff: Re: [opensuse-marketing] A few words about the OSC brainstorming/marketing On 06/05/14 21:52, Sarah Julia Kriesch wrote:
Yes. Communities need developers. I know, that I have got the wrong IT education for that (Computer Science Expert for System Integration).
Hi Sarah,
I wouln't say "wrong" ... who knows ? A community is a "humans system", and each competency can be useless one day or another.
But if nobody know what you studied, then it's a pity.
I havn't studied. I have got a German education in information technology (vocational school + practice in a company) as a Computer Science Expert like that: http://www.en.it.physik.uni-muenchen.de/wir_ueber_uns/ausbildung/index.html I work as a system administrator for a global ISP now.
I have found interested software developers with experience in a LUG. One is registered as an Advocate. But he doesnt know, how he can become a linux developer. You can use the idea with mentoring by Jasna there.
you chose a perfect example : if he wish to become a developper, he'll just have to learn programmation bases for 2 to 4 years. No mentor will do this ...
I have written, he would be a software developer: https://en.opensuse.org/User:Marcusseidler I meant, you can learn programming and work as a software developer. But there is a difference, whether you would develop for an operating system or a content management system as a example.
It would be a waste of time, a waste of energy, a waste of resources ...
if he wish to integrate a linux community (sharing), then a mentor could tell him :
that many communities need advocate competencies
Most of them are very motivated. GSoC besides full-time job, part-time studying and community activities? How should I do that?
I do think it's not a question of quantity, but quality. What you wrote here is great ... As an example, you could meet an advocate or a journalist, and say here in the marketing liste : I met ... his/her profile is blabla ... would you have a suggestion how he/she could help openSUSE community ?
For me, a mentor IS NOT a teacher or a training animator, but more a guide/resource
That's right and you will be shown the right way.
But who should become a mentor for a lot of interested software developers? They need some help to start, but you need enough people, who can do that.
Nobody ... or that person would be ++ pretentious and uncompetent (as in education, methematics teachers said : it's easy to write programs lol ... oups or around 1995, a lot of website were done by my cousin or a nephew ... great result !! ;-))
A mentor is not a teacher ... A mentor is not a teacher, but he can help becoming good in that, what you want to do and you can get quality (not quantity) with that.
The mentor ask you (when you arrive in a community) what are your skills, motivation and your available time, for ex. He is just like an experience guide (on community process experience, on how to get an information = if I do not know, who can answer ?, on how to modelize success instead of trying to restart each time from 0)
if you have never walked, he will not suggest you to climb fast the Everest, saying : "GO, JUST DO IT".
So Stathis, yes I agree that community is not an enterprise and I agree too with "having fun", smiling, being just happy, and mostly being free (please no boss) but a community is a human system (not just a distribution) it's a balance challenge ...
That's the reason, why I'm studying beside the job. I have learned installations, configurations, networking technologies, protocols,..., but I saw, that I would need more. Basic knowledge in programming (I learned that, too) havn't been enough. And tutorials arn't enough, too. You need algorithms, datastructures and practice. I study at a distance-teaching university and that's based on self-studying.
a challenge like : what can we do with the resources we already have inside the community ...
I mean ...
if a contributor, a developper, a user, an advocate or a designer, a teacher, a student does not feel welcome (or have fun), espacially in a non paid system, he will simply go next door, to another community. As simple as that ...
For me, this is exactly marketing : being attractive
...
so finally ... openSUSE marketing (or other word Stathis), for me, would be :
being attractive welcome any contributors (and mentoring) check openSUSE unused resources
and of course writing quality articles and showing great pictures too, and talking around ... opening eyes and mind
Have to run rl now lol tc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner@opensuse.org
I'll go to Nuremberg this weekend. We have got studying days there again (maths). I look, whether I can find some new faces from everywhere in Germany. Studying days are good chances for marketing. Best regards Sarah -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner@opensuse.org