October 2011 - openSUSE Marketing - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-marketing] Re: [opensuse-factory] The release notes/product highlights for 12.1
by Will Stephenson 26 Oct '11

26 Oct '11

On Monday 24 Oct 2011 22:35:37 Ilya Chernykh wrote: > I think you could add info on KDE3 being included in 12.1. > Possibly it worth mentioning that this makes asylum for at least a part of > users who dislike Gnome 3. This is my strong objection to mentioning KDE 3 in our 12.1 marketing and release notes. SUSE has a long and undistinguished history of letting noisy tails wag the whole dog, but there is no need for the openSUSE project to continue this. Martin Gräßlin approaches the problems facing the Trinity fork of KDE 3 in this article at freiesmagazin [1] (German), but to apply his analysis to the KDE:KDE3 packages and our distribution, and for those who don't read German or trust machine translation, my objection comes down to 2 major things. In case you aren't aware of my qualifications to make this assessment, I've been part of the team maintaining KDE at SUSE for the past 6 going on 7 years. 1) Quality and security. Despite the KDE:KDE3 maintainer's high degree of activity in packaging every KDE 3 app out there and adapting the KDE 3 platform to build on current distributions, it is a mistake to equate this with sufficient maintenance to ensure adequate code quality to include this in our distribution. The KDE 3 and Qt 3 codebases are massive, include code in all the worst places to have a vulnerability, have been essentially unmaintained for over 2 years now, and *include many known bugs and vulnerabilities that have only been fixed in the 4 releases*. Assurances that the project is now maintained upstream by the Trinity project are hollow; the Trinity group is only a handful of people, none of whom are the original maintainers or developers of the code, and most of their effort is spent on writing a Qt4 compatibility layer and in porting the build system to cmake, not maintenance. In any case, the packages in KDE:KDE3 are based on 3.5.10 and only include some changes from the Trinity project's fork, which is now 3.5.12. openSUSE Factory maintainers made an error of judgement to resume including KDE 3 packages while they demonstrably fulfil the latter 3 of our drop criteria [2], and marketing should not join them in this. 2) The message sent by a retrograde step. Being unique in a bad way is not good for the project. Making a thing out of including KDE 3 is saying that we as a project invest energy in going backwards, and push (sorry) futile efforts as features. The set of KDE 3 users who have not yet switched to KDE 4 or to something else is small and we are not going to win more users, more contributors or recognition for the distro by speaking to these users' needs. > Also it worth mentioning that openSUSE is the first distribution where KDE3 > was returned back. First and only because major distributions have a vision of where they want to go and how to invest their energy that isn't "be all things to all people, regardless". openSUSE should be a meritocracy, where things that have merit get included, instead of uncritically rewarding any activity. > openSUSE is a distro with greatest choice of desktop environments out there > which is a major advantage. This became possible due to wonderful OBS. Yes, the OBS is wonderful, but openSUSE the distribution doesn't have to include everything OBS builds. The OBS and Studio also make it easy to spin your own niche distribution based on openSUSE. Sincerely Will [1] http://www.freiesmagazin.de/mobil/freiesMagazin-2011-09- bilder.html#11_09_trinity [2] http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Factory_drop_policy -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-marketing] Weekly News Issue 200 is coming soon...
by Sascha Manns 25 Oct '11

25 Oct '11

Hello Mates, soon we will release our 200th Issue of openSUSE Weekly News. Time to collect ideas. So please tell us your ideas and place they there: https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/forum/topic/14907/ideas-for-opensuse-weekly… Have a lot of fun. -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns Community & Support Agent open-slx GmbH Web: http://community.open-slx.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-marketing] Fwd: Re: [opensuse-factory] The release notes/product highlights for 12.1
by jdd 25 Oct '11

25 Oct '11

Hello, The thread in subject is very long, on factory and (who knos why) project. The result below seems quite good IMHO (and in others opinions also), so I think we could adopt it On Tuesday, October 25, 2011 11:43 AM, "Robert Schweikert" <rjschwei(a)suse.com> wrote: > IMHO KDE3 should not be part of the main release, for reasons I > mentioned earlier in this thread, but should be promoted in the release > notes in a "Community" section thereof. jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-marketing] artwork git repo - Introducing GNOME on openSUSE 114.odp broken
by Richard Brown 23 Oct '11

23 Oct '11

Hi all, I took care of this - the old odp is back in our git repo now Rich >>> Christian Boltz 10/23/11 3:30 PM >>> Hello, I just noticed that the file "slides/Introducing GNOME on openSUSE 114.odp" in the opensuse-artwork git repo only contains a saved HTML page from gitorious :-( Can someone fix this, please? Gruß Christian Boltz -- Ich glaube aber nicht, dass der DDR Ram hat. Er hat seinen Rechner doch erst vor einem Jahr gekauft! Die werden Ihm da doch nicht uralt-Speicherbausteine hereingesteckt haben. Maximal kann er also "Ex-DDR"-Speicher haben (Sprich Infineon, denn die Produzieren ja auch in Dresden ...). [Konrad Neitzel in suse-linux] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner(a)opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-marketing] 12.1 Presentation Templates improved
by Richard Brown 23 Oct '11

23 Oct '11

Hi All, I've just done a quick polishing pass on the 12.1 presentation templates in /slides/ in the -artwork gitorious repo There should be no noticeable change, but I did quite a bit under the hood and I *think* I've managed to beat the horrific performance issues people had with my previous versions (sorry!) I'm also thinking of doing a 'professional/lite' 12.1 template with less graphics but still using elements that make it obvious its openSUSE 12.1 related - the idea being both to be lighter in terms of filesize and performance but also possibly offer up a 'cleaner' style for presentations where a large green wallpaper in the background doesn't make sense Thoughts? Richard Brown -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-marketing] artwork git repo - Introducing GNOME on openSUSE 114.odp broken
by Christian Boltz 23 Oct '11

23 Oct '11

Hello, I just noticed that the file "slides/Introducing GNOME on openSUSE 114.odp" in the opensuse-artwork git repo only contains a saved HTML page from gitorious :-( Can someone fix this, please? Gruß Christian Boltz -- Ich glaube aber nicht, dass der DDR Ram hat. Er hat seinen Rechner doch erst vor einem Jahr gekauft! Die werden Ihm da doch nicht uralt-Speicherbausteine hereingesteckt haben. Maximal kann er also "Ex-DDR"-Speicher haben (Sprich Infineon, denn die Produzieren ja auch in Dresden ...). [Konrad Neitzel in suse-linux] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-marketing] RC 1- openSUSE 12.1- KDE-i686
by Amon0Thoth1 21 Oct '11

21 Oct '11

Sneak preview on the new openSUSE 12.1 RC 1 development release. -Kernel Linux 3.1.0-rc9-1-default i686 -KDE 4.7.2 -KMail2 is working faster than ever. This mail is from my recently installed oS. -Digikam ? it was not installed by default -LibreOffice 3.4.2 Suite comes with beautiful icons and FlowChar (Draw) is a most now. Greatly improved. -Beautiful artwork More features to announce later. Still downloading GNOME to test it too. Regards, -- Ricardo Chung | Panama openSUSE Linux Ambassador openSUSE 12.1 RC 1 | KDE 4.7.2 | Mesa-Gallium -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-marketing] Contributor gifts
by Christian Boltz 21 Oct '11

21 Oct '11

Hello, [please reply on the opensuse-project mailinglist!] Some time ago, we collected ideas for contributor gifts on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Contributor_gifts and also decided who should receive a gift - see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=682098 (basically active members + GSOC students + an option to propose someone who contributed a lot, but isn't a member (yet)). I discussed with AJ today which items on the list would be possible and would make sense. That made list much shorter ;-) The contributor gifts should be something special/exclusive IMHO, not the "usual" stuff we hand out to visitors at conferences or stuff you can order via shop.o.o. I'd say the symbolic value is more important than the price - no gold bar with geeko embossing needed ;-) The narrowed down list contains these proposals: a) things you can touch - coffee mugs - caps - T-Shirt (not an exceptional idea, but people like them) - USB memory sticks (with bootable openSUSE) - openSUSE playing cards The design should be something special that is only available to contributors/members and should contain a hint that the person who wears/owns item is an openSUSE contributor/member. (Take the 11.1 "iContribute" t-shirts as an example.) The openSUSE playing cards are an idea on its own. While the easiest way would be to create "normal" playing cards and just replace king and queen with Tux and Geeko, having a special "openSUSE game" would be even better. (But that would probably also mean it won't be ready when we release 12.1.) When we send out a parcel, we can always add things like stickers, some promo DVDs and a cheat sheet poster. And of course a "thank you" letter. b) Awards at openSUSE conference for contributions in a few categories There would be some categories (for example marketing, packaging, development, bugreporting etc.), and the top-contributor in each category would receive a price. This price would be "bigger" and more personal compared to the items in a) The handling could be done similar to how KDE does Akademy awards: Winners from last year choose winners from next year; would only need 'starting up' for us (categories and winners). The only risk is that not everybody might love that sort of "paperwork" to choose next year's winners so we might need some volunteers as fallback. c) software SLE* license for free or at least a special price (a restriction to "updates only, without support" if you do it for free would be OK). The problem with this option is that not everybody needs a SLE* license. If we decide on one of those, then the next problem comes up: money ;-) At the moment there isn't a budget available, but AJ sees at least chances to get one. (We'll probably have to discuss the details after deciding which of the above we want to do - or if we spend the money for something totally different.) Beside the costs for the gifts itsself, we also have to keep shipment costs and customs in mind. This leads to another question: When/how often do we send a gift to a contributor? The options are: - at every release - once a year - (could even reduce shipment costs - people visiting the conference could get it there, so we have to ship only to those who can't come to the conference) - once when you become a member - call it a "member welcome package" ;-) (and of course the current members would also receive it) I'm open for feedback. What of the above do you think would make a good contributor gift? When/how often should we send one? Or shouldn't we send one at all and spend the money otherwise? There are also some good ideas in the wiki page would make good giveaways at conferences, trade fairs etc: - geeko-shaped paperclips - geeko/openSUSE pins - key fobs - lanyards - jellybaby geekos - someone (Klaas?) mentioned this idea at the conference, but the problem seems to be that producing the shape/form is expensive. The jellybybies itsself are quite cheap compared to that. @marketing team: feel free to use any of those ideas ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- [Loadbalancer vor Mailservern] Ausbauen, bei Ebay verhökern und die frei gewordene Zeit zusammen mit dem Ebay-Erlös in eine große Betriebsparty mit Cocktails anlegen. [Peer Heinlein in postfixbuch-users] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-marketing] flyer editing
by jdd 20 Oct '11

20 Oct '11

Hello :-) I try to make the flyer easier to edit and translate. The final goal is to have a scribus (or eventually inkscape) source. For this I began to extract objects from the eps file, to be able to rebuild the flyer. I try to manage that through git, but I'm not sure I suceed, because I don't know how to look in the git repository My work is in "opensuse-artwork/flyers/flyer-v4-parts/" and I hope I have commited it, but I'm unsure. If somebody can look and say if he can get my work? I also saved the text (minus some obvious titles) in a text file (text.txt in git) and pasted it on a pad there: http://jdd.ietherpad.com/5 This is the text for the 4 fold flyer, I don't know if it's possible to keep it all in a threefold. Anyway, if you want to enhance it, it's the moment :-). I have very little experience on inkscape or scribus, so forgive me if all is not that good. jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-marketing] LinuxDay in Österreich - Opensuse als Aussteller
by xela＠lugv.at 20 Oct '11

20 Oct '11

Hi Jan, it would be cool, if we could get some contact address or link or if you could forward our request to some Opensuse team member near us. many thanks in advance, Alexandra -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner(a)opensuse.org

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