Wow! That is really awesome to hear. I tried out Micro OS Desktop as an experiment, but it has ruined me. Having a large mutable root where I will slip up an install more an more stuff feels dirty to me now. But there is still a lot to do, nice to see progress! I will try out all the new changes and see if it fixes the issue. Otherwise maybe it is time for a nuke and pave to get the new stuff cleanly. /Emil Den ons 24 mars 2021 21:55Syds Bearda skrev:

Hi,

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021, at 21:18, Emil Johansson wrote:

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Hi!

I do not open up Gnome Software super often but for a while now it has been stuck at "Software catalog is being downloaded" every time open it.

As I rarely open it I cannot give a good estimate on when this started to happen but it happens every time. The flatpak cli works just fine.

Removing the cache in .cache/gnome-software and starting from the cli with --verbose this is where it hangs:

19:20:36:0325 Gs running search on plugin=flatpak with dedupe-flags=24 with [...] 19:20:36:0325 Gs Disconnecting cancellable 0x56268dbe51e0 19:20:36:0326 Gs ****** GetResultMetas

I ran it again today and it does not look exactly the same but running search on plugin=flatpak [...] is at the bottom of the output again.

Searching the webs this seems to have been an issue in the past, those times it looks like it was related to things like pakagekit and fwupd.

systemctl status packagekit tells me that packagekit have failed with this error that says it is not an error. The packagekit service failed so I am leaning towards not trusting the part that says it is not an error.

History database cannot be created: SQLite error on ":memory:": Failed to open backup database: "/usr/lib/sysimage/dnf/history.sqlite": not an error

I followed the excellent guide by dariofaggioli to set up gnome software and it has worked well until recently. ( https://dariofaggioli.wordpress.com/2020/10/16/opensuse-microos-as-your-desk... )

Today a massive release for MicroOS (Gnome desktop) was accepted into Factory. Once this has gone through the openQA testing it will be released (hopefully within the next few days) as a new snapshot.

The following things have been fixed : - packegekit/ transactional-update backends have been changed from zypper to dnf, making it possible for Gnome Software to install updates - necessary gsettings options from Dario's manual are included by default. - gnome night light works, because of the addition of the package gnome-color-manager - Flathub is installed on first boot, together with a few flatpaks (Firefox, gnome calculator and gedit) - SELinux enabled by default (instead of AppArmor) - btrfs with CoW for /home

/Syds

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/Emil

PS: on snapshot 20210321

Note, however, that there where unexpected issues with the changes mentioned by Syds. Unfortunately, this is software, and in software, bugs happen. :-P

I am all too familiar with that working as a developer... I guess there will be some sort of announcement when it reaches beta?

With all those changes, it would be good to start fresh indeed. It's bad to ask that to users, we know, but after all that's why MicroOS Desktop was considered ALPHA... and I guess stuff like that can happen with ALPHA software, can't they?

I would say yes! It is all about setting the right expectations. Both the alpha label and the general messaging have set expectations that this is new exciting stuff, but stability in terms of features and issues will be low for a while. I am just happy that things are happening with the project even though I have not gotten around to actually contribute. Den tors 1 apr. 2021 kl 09:02 skrev Dario Faggioli :

On Thu, 2021-03-25 at 07:32 +0100, Emil Johansson wrote:

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Wow! That is really awesome to hear.

Indeed! :-)

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I tried out Micro OS Desktop as an experiment, but it has ruined me. Having a large mutable root where I will slip up an install more an more stuff feels dirty to me now.

Right? I feel exactly the same!!

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But there is still a lot to do, nice to see progress!

Hehe! :-D

Note, however, that there where unexpected issues with the changes mentioned by Syds. Unfortunately, this is software, and in software, bugs happen. :-P

AFAIK, they're being looked at and will hopefully be fixed soon.

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I will try out all the new changes and see if it fixes the issue. Otherwise maybe it is time for a nuke and pave to get the new stuff cleanly.

With all those changes, it would be good to start fresh indeed. It's bad to ask that to users, we know, but after all that's why MicroOS Desktop was considered ALPHA... and I guess stuff like that can happen with ALPHA software, can't they?

With all the new changes --when working-- we're be in BETA, which hopefully will be more "stable", in terms of fundamental architectural changes requiring reinstall not happening (but never say never! :-P)

Anyway, I definitely suggest to wait until the bugs are gone, before reinstalling.

Regards -- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D http://about.me/dario.faggioli Virtualization Software Engineer SUSE Labs, SUSE https://www.suse.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- <> (Raistlin Majere)

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 1:56 PM Dario Faggioli wrote:

On Fri, 2021-04-02 at 19:34 +0200, Emil Johansson wrote:

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Note, however, that there where unexpected issues with the changes mentioned by Syds. Unfortunately, this is software, and in software, bugs happen. :-P

I am all too familiar with that working as a developer... I guess there will be some sort of announcement when it reaches beta?

Well, let's see. It's very much likely that Neal will tell us when he'll have looked into it. And I definitely plan to try as soon as we think it's fixed... And am fine sending an email here, if it works.

However, Syds, Neal, do we want a bug for better tracking this? Or is there one already?

I don't think there's a bug for this. If someone wants to file one, they can. I'm working on it already, though. :) -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!