[opensuse-kernel] 11.3 & 11.4 update scheduling
I see the last kernels on update were in April. When are next scheduled, or have they been scheduled? Finally 15 month old https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584493 was fixed "Monday", and I'm anxious to have access to properly working kernel-desktop & kernel-default in these installations. Even Tumbleweed & stable/standard have had no new kernel builds since before "Monday's" fix. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 12:29:21PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
I see the last kernels on update were in April. When are next scheduled, or have they been scheduled? Finally 15 month old https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584493 was fixed "Monday", and I'm anxious to have access to properly working kernel-desktop & kernel-default in these installations. Even Tumbleweed & stable/standard have had no new kernel builds since before "Monday's" fix.
So far they are not. I will review and see if another one is opportune at the moment. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
On 2011/07/07 18:58 (GMT+0200) Marcus Meissner composed:
On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 12:29:21PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
I see the last kernels on update were in April. When are next scheduled, or have they been scheduled? Finally 15 month old https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584493 was fixed "Monday", and I'm anxious to have access to properly working kernel-desktop& kernel-default in these installations. Even Tumbleweed& stable/standard have had no new kernel builds since before "Monday's" fix.
So far they are not. I will review and see if another one is opportune at the moment.
It remains necessary to go outside regular updates to get the 584493 fix for 11.3 & 11.4. :-( -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:58:01AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2011/07/07 18:58 (GMT+0200) Marcus Meissner composed:
On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 12:29:21PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
I see the last kernels on update were in April. When are next scheduled, or have they been scheduled? Finally 15 month old https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584493 was fixed "Monday", and I'm anxious to have access to properly working kernel-desktop& kernel-default in these installations. Even Tumbleweed& stable/standard have had no new kernel builds since before "Monday's" fix.
So far they are not. I will review and see if another one is opportune at the moment.
It remains necessary to go outside regular updates to get the 584493 fix for 11.3 & 11.4. :-(
Well, the openSUSE kernel updates are getting checked in right now and will be shipped end of this/begin of next week. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
On 27/07/11 02:06, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:58:01AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2011/07/07 18:58 (GMT+0200) Marcus Meissner composed:
I see the last kernels on update were in April. When are next scheduled, or have they been scheduled? Finally 15 month old https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584493 was fixed "Monday", and I'm anxious to have access to properly working kernel-desktop& kernel-default in these installations. Even Tumbleweed& stable/standard have had no new kernel builds since before "Monday's" fix. So far they are not. I will review and see if another one is opportune at
On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 12:29:21PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: the moment. It remains necessary to go outside regular updates to get the 584493 fix for 11.3& 11.4. :-( Well, the openSUSE kernel updates are getting checked in right now and will be shipped end of this/begin of next week.
Ciao, Marcus
Obviously I very much misunderstood the post above because yesterday there was an update of the kernel to 2.6.37.6-0.71 and I was expecting to see kernel v3 which was officially released on 22 July. Could you please tell me when v3 is expected to become available for oS 11.4? BC -- Paradise is like Hell and neither is too far from you because both are creations of your mind and therefore both are already inside you. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/04/2011 02:25 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 27/07/11 02:06, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:58:01AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2011/07/07 18:58 (GMT+0200) Marcus Meissner composed:
On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 12:29:21PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
I see the last kernels on update were in April. When are next scheduled, or have they been scheduled? Finally 15 month old https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584493 was fixed "Monday", and I'm anxious to have access to properly working kernel-desktop& kernel-default in these installations. Even Tumbleweed& stable/standard have had no new kernel builds since before "Monday's" fix. So far they are not. I will review and see if another one is opportune at the moment. It remains necessary to go outside regular updates to get the 584493 fix for 11.3& 11.4. :-( Well, the openSUSE kernel updates are getting checked in right now and will be shipped end of this/begin of next week.
Ciao, Marcus
Obviously I very much misunderstood the post above because yesterday there was an update of the kernel to 2.6.37.6-0.71 and I was expecting to see kernel v3 which was officially released on 22 July.
Could you please tell me when v3 is expected to become available for oS 11.4?
It won't. Tumbleweed might offer it, but not the regular 11.4 update channel. I'm not sure why you expected v3.0 for 11.4 since none of our other updates have involved version changes. - -Jeff - -- Jeff Mahoney SUSE Labs -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk46PD8ACgkQLPWxlyuTD7J0dgCglS1uTQuE7p1F/twANXNdtRcg SFYAmQEEKhLCY8/EIRK9oIXSp94JGN2W =Qk4w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/04/2011 02:29 AM, Jeff Mahoney wrote:
On 08/04/2011 02:25 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 27/07/11 02:06, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:58:01AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2011/07/07 18:58 (GMT+0200) Marcus Meissner composed:
On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 12:29:21PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
I see the last kernels on update were in April. When are next scheduled, or have they been scheduled? Finally 15 month old https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584493 was fixed "Monday", and I'm anxious to have access to properly working kernel-desktop& kernel-default in these installations. Even Tumbleweed& stable/standard have had no new kernel builds since before "Monday's" fix. So far they are not. I will review and see if another one is opportune at the moment. It remains necessary to go outside regular updates to get the 584493 fix for 11.3& 11.4. :-( Well, the openSUSE kernel updates are getting checked in right now and will be shipped end of this/begin of next week.
Ciao, Marcus
Obviously I very much misunderstood the post above because yesterday there was an update of the kernel to 2.6.37.6-0.71 and I was expecting to see kernel v3 which was officially released on 22 July.
Could you please tell me when v3 is expected to become available for oS 11.4?
It won't. Tumbleweed might offer it, but not the regular 11.4 update channel.
I'm not sure why you expected v3.0 for 11.4 since none of our other updates have involved version changes.
Or, rather, version changes beyond the -stable series. - -Jeff - -- Jeff Mahoney SUSE Labs -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk46PFoACgkQLPWxlyuTD7KvxACbBG9MrNpYYhRW4n+JFxGvNvQF XK4An0q6T58FITGCzVfOJCN7bAOYHuc0 =+EtH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
On 04/08/11 16:29, Jeff Mahoney wrote:
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On 08/04/2011 02:25 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 27/07/11 02:06, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:58:01AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2011/07/07 18:58 (GMT+0200) Marcus Meissner composed:
On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 12:29:21PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
I see the last kernels on update were in April. When are next scheduled, or have they been scheduled? Finally 15 month old https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584493 was fixed "Monday", and I'm anxious to have access to properly working kernel-desktop& kernel-default in these installations. Even Tumbleweed& stable/standard have had no new kernel builds since before "Monday's" fix. So far they are not. I will review and see if another one is opportune at the moment. It remains necessary to go outside regular updates to get the 584493 fix for 11.3& 11.4. :-( Well, the openSUSE kernel updates are getting checked in right now and will be shipped end of this/begin of next week.
Ciao, Marcus
Obviously I very much misunderstood the post above because yesterday there was an update of the kernel to 2.6.37.6-0.71 and I was expecting to see kernel v3 which was officially released on 22 July.
Could you please tell me when v3 is expected to become available for oS 11.4? It won't. Tumbleweed might offer it, but not the regular 11.4 update channel.
Thank you for this. But why isn't the kernel-source included in Tumbleweed? Every source for "debug" of various versions of the 3.0 kernel is there but not the source of the kernel itself.
I'm not sure why you expected v3.0 for 11.4 since none of our other updates have involved version changes.
But why not? There is an upgrade to KDE 4.7 available so why not for something as important as the kernel? BC -- Paradise is like Hell and neither is too far from you because both are creations of your mind and therefore both are already inside you. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 05:41:52PM +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 04/08/11 16:29, Jeff Mahoney wrote:
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On 08/04/2011 02:25 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 27/07/11 02:06, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:58:01AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2011/07/07 18:58 (GMT+0200) Marcus Meissner composed:
On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 12:29:21PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >I see the last kernels on update were in April. When are >next scheduled, or have they been scheduled? Finally 15 month >old https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584493 was >fixed "Monday", and I'm anxious to have access to properly >working kernel-desktop& kernel-default in these >installations. Even Tumbleweed& stable/standard have had no >new kernel builds since before "Monday's" fix. So far they are not. I will review and see if another one is opportune at the moment. It remains necessary to go outside regular updates to get the 584493 fix for 11.3& 11.4. :-( Well, the openSUSE kernel updates are getting checked in right now and will be shipped end of this/begin of next week.
Ciao, Marcus
Obviously I very much misunderstood the post above because yesterday there was an update of the kernel to 2.6.37.6-0.71 and I was expecting to see kernel v3 which was officially released on 22 July.
Could you please tell me when v3 is expected to become available for oS 11.4? It won't. Tumbleweed might offer it, but not the regular 11.4 update channel.
Thank you for this.
But why isn't the kernel-source included in Tumbleweed?
Every source for "debug" of various versions of the 3.0 kernel is there but not the source of the kernel itself.
$ osc ls openSUSE:Tumbleweed|grep kernel-s kernel-source It is there as far as I see.
I'm not sure why you expected v3.0 for 11.4 since none of our other updates have involved version changes.
But why not?
There is an upgrade to KDE 4.7 available so why not for something as important as the kernel?
KDE 4.7 is not in the regular update channel either. Of course one might decide to do version updates also for regular 11.4, but larger changes have a higher risk of breakage. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
On 8/4/2011 3:41 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 04/08/11 16:29, Jeff Mahoney wrote:
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On 08/04/2011 02:25 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 27/07/11 02:06, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:58:01AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2011/07/07 18:58 (GMT+0200) Marcus Meissner composed:
On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 12:29:21PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > I see the last kernels on update were in April. When are > next scheduled, or have they been scheduled? Finally 15 month > old https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584493 was > fixed "Monday", and I'm anxious to have access to properly > working kernel-desktop& kernel-default in these > installations. Even Tumbleweed& stable/standard have had no > new kernel builds since before "Monday's" fix. So far they are not. I will review and see if another one is opportune at the moment. It remains necessary to go outside regular updates to get the 584493 fix for 11.3& 11.4. :-( Well, the openSUSE kernel updates are getting checked in right now and will be shipped end of this/begin of next week.
Ciao, Marcus
Obviously I very much misunderstood the post above because yesterday there was an update of the kernel to 2.6.37.6-0.71 and I was expecting to see kernel v3 which was officially released on 22 July.
Could you please tell me when v3 is expected to become available for oS 11.4? It won't. Tumbleweed might offer it, but not the regular 11.4 update channel.
Thank you for this.
But why isn't the kernel-source included in Tumbleweed?
Every source for "debug" of various versions of the 3.0 kernel is there but not the source of the kernel itself.
I'm not sure why you expected v3.0 for 11.4 since none of our other updates have involved version changes.
But why not?
There is an upgrade to KDE 4.7 available so why not for something as important as the kernel?
BC
Actual kernel version changes often bring kernel behavior changes which would break the ability for suse to promise that everything works and has been tested. Changing the actual version of the kernel may, and often does, break many assumptions the rest of the system relies on. Suse can not do that to everyone since it would break installed systems all over the place without their consent or warning or expectation. All you _ever_ get in the updates channel are bugfixes, mostly in the form of security updates. The updates channel is not intended to add/remove features or make changes to behavior. That all happens only in factory and the new distribution versions. If you want to deviate your system from the supplied and supported state any more than that, you use other repos like the various devel repos, and in the case of the kernel, the kernel of the day repo. You can do that easily any time you want to your own box, and if it doesn't appear to break anything you care about, lucky you, but it's nothing suse can risk doing by pushing it out to the updates repo. -- bkw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
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