On 8/4/2011 3:41 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 04/08/11 16:29, Jeff Mahoney wrote:
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On 08/04/2011 02:25 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 27/07/11 02:06, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:58:01AM -0400, Felix
> On 2011/07/07 18:58 (GMT+0200) Marcus Meissner composed:
>> On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 12:29:21PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
>>> I see the last kernels on update were in April. When are
>>> next scheduled, or have they been scheduled? Finally 15 month
>>> old https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584493
>>> fixed "Monday", and I'm anxious to have access to properly
>>> working kernel-desktop& kernel-default in these
>>> installations. Even Tumbleweed& stable/standard have had no
>>> new kernel builds since before "Monday's" fix.
>> So far they are not. I will review and see if another one is
>> opportune at the moment.
> It remains necessary to go outside regular updates to get the
> 584493 fix for 11.3& 11.4. :-(
Well, the openSUSE kernel updates are getting checked in right now
and will be shipped end of this/begin of next week.
Obviously I very much misunderstood the post above because yesterday
there was an update of the kernel to 188.8.131.52-0.71 and I was
expecting to see kernel v3 which was officially released on 22 July.
Could you please tell me when v3 is expected to become available for
It won't. Tumbleweed might offer it, but not the regular 11.4
Thank you for this.
But why isn't the kernel-source included in Tumbleweed?
Every source for "debug" of various versions of the 3.0 kernel is there
but not the source of the kernel itself.
I'm not sure why you expected v3.0 for 11.4
since none of our other
updates have involved version changes.
But why not?
There is an upgrade to KDE 4.7 available so why not for something as
important as the kernel?
Actual kernel version changes often bring kernel behavior changes which
would break the ability for suse to promise that everything works and
has been tested. Changing the actual version of the kernel may, and
often does, break many assumptions the rest of the system relies on.
Suse can not do that to everyone since it would break installed systems
all over the place without their consent or warning or expectation.
All you _ever_ get in the updates channel are bugfixes, mostly in the
form of security updates.
The updates channel is not intended to add/remove features or make
changes to behavior. That all happens only in factory and the new
If you want to deviate your system from the supplied and supported state
any more than that, you use other repos like the various devel repos,
and in the case of the kernel, the kernel of the day repo.
You can do that easily any time you want to your own box, and if it
doesn't appear to break anything you care about, lucky you, but it's
nothing suse can risk doing by pushing it out to the updates repo.
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