-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all - I'm doing the integration work for 3.17-rc1 and, as usual, there are a ton of drivers that are typically only used for embedded devices. Generally, I'd prefer to just disable them, but there are always a few people who want to run openSUSE on things like tiny Atoms. Do we want to consider moving uncommon drivers into something like kernel-default-uncommon and save disk space on most every other system? Of course, then there's also the concept of kernel-default-base again, where it would probably contain typical file systems (xfs/ext4/btrfs) and drivers for devices most commonly offered by qemu-kvm. I understand it doesn't cover cases like device assignment, but those are more advanced use cases in which the full kernel-default package would be used. The problem I'm looking to solve is "what would work well for several major use cases?" I'd define those as typical desktop/server/notebook hardware and KVM instances without device assignment. (Xen is a different conversation since dom0 and domU have different requirements WRT drivers.) The fallback for not fitting into one of the nice boxes is just installing another package which uses as much disk space as the old kernel package used to, so it's not a huge inconvenience. OTOH, having multiple kernel sub-packages has been somewhat of a PITA WRT updates and dependencies, so I thought I'd solicit opinions. - -Jeff - -- Jeff Mahoney SUSE Labs -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.19 (Darwin) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT90a1AAoJEB57S2MheeWyvQsP/3w4RhrNsESul6jNNqiEHVuZ yKA0IcyyJiZgJOV6qtgz2j4JWEd14o06QTX+QsL6oyE48SQi/NqH0flAoVJGGZsz DmremRuhWUT5R2hC2rmMZgo6hZkROGqEtdTbgpb/o31vsDZK2n8dZAzz7IiTWn2W BYG1Ixf4I2Q2J1cjGJRaSpfBGmSdCCwtSV42tIg2Ka4EMbOfdRRSUhPSobHMWPCy MXRPCfbJ1pN6NlN5XF++kiM8H2gFEt14jPzeMO7NYpRSAPa4V/CMANBRjEEsLh6n YNspFJCkZSLuRFOOcwgUge2gbcfUNVF4O4BZhruHHSW49aWMVuIOJtg3cM7xcYYD qkHNXcYTZssiPIMg6o2tl2vJB1dKhAwef1l6A75V4dc1+2QZznv7cty0NZE8mVYp 3J7M4LHwvGZMC1KEe5wDsOJNwIC4Kt74i6ZgDfl3/0GquM6ODDWZOTQykKRuP8dY /eYDfj/rItOiVXMsIxqwdq7Komk3X4kDhgaUlveXFN524Ivplq5/uspYfyB3nTCU yRgPJHOfj3FOp1pxAloKHfgBs1cso/yUw92PwWSY/lsUN4K3YOoys25BLElIeYhX RrrcF19hjZkkjQvzrQl/EW0RUqTPil3UAhz0KlY/ZvKEL/rlWvhC7bD2GtUaLU8k pXuQJ99gfpVcwUHbIoZW =Srwn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+owner@opensuse.org