Am Mittwoch 27 Januar 2010 schrieb Stefan Seyfried:

On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:56:59 -0500

Jeff Mahoney wrote:

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This is just a quick heads up that I've just pulled my 2.6.33 branch into master and pushed to the main repository. It should appear on gitorious, OBS, and KOTD shortly.

Please note that I don't intend to push this for openSUSE 11.3 M1 since

why not? Most likely because Milestone1 is on the mirrors since yesterday.

Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org

On Wednesday 27 January 2010, 09:28:13 Stefan Seyfried wrote:

OTOH, i'm still a bit scared of only having the KOTD, so is there a method to do "zypper up" and get both kernels, the FACTORY "stable" kernel and the KOTD?

Last time, I complained about this (it was in bugzilla, IIRC), I was told, that this is the intended behavior. openSUSE's policy is: you have to use a single kernel version, because neither zypper, nor rpmbuilding kernel modules can cope with it. I think, this this is a poor argument, but I'm not getting asked anyway... Notice, how this is different from distributions managed by yum: that has explicit handling to always _install_ new kernels. I can imagine a lot of scenarios, where this policy is superior. Pete -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org

On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 16:59:21 +0100 Marcus Meissner wrote:

The zypp multiversion handling at least allows multiple kernels being installed. See /etc/zypp/zypp.conf

So updateing will keep the old (known good) kernels.

Just to make sure ;) uncommenting this line in zypp.conf # multiversion = provides:multiversion(kernel) will do what I want? I can add the KOTD repo, and zypper up will install both: the newest FACTORY kernel (if there will ever be an update for the FACTORY kernel, I slowly don't believe in it anymore ;) and the newest KOTD? ...and of course, old kernels will accumulate until the disk is full, but that's fine, I can purge them manually. Did I understand that correctly? Thanks! seife -- Stefan Seyfried "Mit Außerirdischen, die nicht weiter gekommen sind als Microsoft und Apple, will ich persönlich nichts zu tun haben." -- Prof. Harald Lesch -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 02 February 2010, Stefan Seyfried wrote:

uncommenting this line in zypp.conf

# multiversion = provides:multiversion(kernel)

will do what I want?

it will do what is implemented: - every package providing "multiversion(kernel)" will be rpm -i instead of rpm -U. by default this is kernel-* as they're provided by openSUSE:*. Note that this has side effects that are undesireable: kmp's won't get updated anymore to match the newest installed kernel, because there is one kernel (the old one) satisfying the dependencies. Greetings, Dirk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org

On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 00:10:04 +0100 Dirk Müller wrote:

On Tuesday 02 February 2010, Stefan Seyfried wrote:

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uncommenting this line in zypp.conf

# multiversion = provides:multiversion(kernel)

will do what I want?

it will do what is implemented:

It probabyl does, but...

- every package providing "multiversion(kernel)" will be rpm -i instead of rpm -U.

by default this is kernel-* as they're provided by openSUSE:*.

Note that this has side effects that are undesireable: kmp's won't get updated anymore to match the newest installed kernel, because there is one kernel (the old one) satisfying the dependencies.

..."zypper up" will now never install a new kernel: strolchi:~ # zypper search -s kernel-default Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository --+--------------------------------+------------+-----------------+--------+------------------ i | kernel-default | package | 2.6.33-2.1 | i586 | factory-oss v | kernel-default | package | 2.6.33-rc7.14.1 | i586 | KOTD i | kernel-default | package | 2.6.33-rc6.12.1 | i586 | (System Packages) | kernel-default | srcpackage | 2.6.33-rc7.14.1 | noarch | KOTD | kernel-default-base | package | 2.6.33-2.1 | i586 | factory-oss [...snip more uninstalled packages, I really only have 2x kernel-default...] strolchi:~ # zypper up kernel-default Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... No update candidate for 'kernel-default'. Resolving package dependencies... Nothing to do. "zypper in kernel-default" will also say "Nothing to do", the only way to get a new kernel now seems to be "zypper in kernel-default-2.6.33-rc7.14.1" (zypper {in,up} -r KOTD kernel-default also does not do what I'd expect it to) That's not a serious problem, just something to be aware of. -- Stefan Seyfried "Any ideas, John?" "Well, surrounding them's out." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org