Am Montag, 5. Oktober 2009 20:33:08 schrieben Sie:

On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 09:54:49PM +0200, Johannes Obermayr wrote:

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Hi,

Is it possible that we/you enable mmiotrace in debug flavor by default? Fedora has it done (see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475445 and http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc//rpms/kernel/F-12/config-debug?view=mark...)

Maybe Kernel:HEAD is a good starting point...

Why should we do this? What is the benifit / trade offs with it?

thanks,

greg k-h

I own a mainboard with Nvidia ION chipset which is not supported by xf86-video-nv and xf86-video-nouveau drivers. Nouveau's webpage says "Users can help development by providing REnouveauDumps or MMIO traces. [...] MMIO traces are more useful nowadays, and we need them for all cards (NV30 and NV40 not needed anymore)." Problems with Nvidia and support for open source drivers should be known. Also how to install proprietary drivers - a bad thing for new linux users... It is not only for this chipsets - many guys have graphic cards from Nvidia or other companies with un-/bad supported chipsets by specific XOrg drivers... I think that I am not the only guy with openSUSE who wants to help with further development and I also think it saves a lot of time and pc power (also electric energy) if helpers have not to compile their kernels themselves and there will be more people who are willing to help if it is directly provided and easily to install. Self-compiling a kernel every time when a new version is out is really annoying if you know that your distribution has to change only one line or a few lines and can avoid it so... And last: more well-supported chipsets upstream -> less bugreports and patches downstream -> users (especially new ones) and distributions are happy... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org