[opensuse-kernel] Study on the configuration of the Linux kernel
Dear openSUSE users, we are a team of researchers from the GSD Lab of the University of Waterloo (ON, Canada). We do research on configuration methods and algorithms and are conducting a study on the problems faced by users during the configuration of the Linux kernel. We would greatly appreciate it if you could answer this questionnaire: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHJrQ1B6OXVCRTRmbGJ2ZlF... It should not take you more than 15 minutes to complete. Thank you very much for your contribution. Arnaud Hubaux, University of Namur/University of Waterloo Yingfei Xiong, University of Waterloo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 09:50:25PM -0400, Arnaud Hubaux wrote:
Dear openSUSE users,
we are a team of researchers from the GSD Lab of the University of Waterloo (ON, Canada). We do research on configuration methods and algorithms and are conducting a study on the problems faced by users during the configuration of the Linux kernel. We would greatly appreciate it if you could answer this questionnaire: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHJrQ1B6OXVCRTRmbGJ2ZlF... It should not take you more than 15 minutes to complete.
Thank you very much for your contribution.
As someone who has been configuring kernels for many years, your questions don't seem to make much sense. What are your goals here with your study? Are you looking to improve the way the kernel is configured? Note, creating a configuration for a kernel to be used for a distro, is very different from an embedded machine which the kernel will only run on one specific hardware configuration, does the way the kernel is configured somehow not meet these divergant needs? curious, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
On 19 Aug 2011, at 01:00, Greg KH wrote:
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 09:50:25PM -0400, Arnaud Hubaux wrote:
Dear openSUSE users,
we are a team of researchers from the GSD Lab of the University of Waterloo (ON, Canada). We do research on configuration methods and algorithms and are conducting a study on the problems faced by users during the configuration of the Linux kernel. We would greatly appreciate it if you could answer this questionnaire: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHJrQ1B6OXVCRTRmbGJ2ZlF... It should not take you more than 15 minutes to complete.
Thank you very much for your contribution.
As someone who has been configuring kernels for many years, your questions don't seem to make much sense. What are your goals here with your study? Are you looking to improve the way the kernel is configured?
Yes, our goal is to improve how the kernel is configured and, ultimately, how other systems are configured. We are studying the Linux kernel because it is probably the configurable system that has the largest number of users across the world. To know what to improve, we first need to know where the challenges are, hence this study. For instance, we would like to know if the activation of inactive options is problematic. If so, depending on how users generally address the problem, we will be able to suggest new ways of assisting them during configuration.
Note, creating a configuration for a kernel to be used for a distro, is very different from an embedded machine which the kernel will only run on one specific hardware configuration, does the way the kernel is configured somehow not meet these divergant needs?
Well, that is a good question. Hopefully, this study will (partly) answer it. Thank you for your clarification questions. Hope my answers help. \ArHu-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
On Friday, August 19, 2011 03:10:19 PM Arnaud Hubaux wrote:
On 19 Aug 2011, at 01:00, Greg KH wrote:
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 09:50:25PM -0400, Arnaud Hubaux wrote:
Dear openSUSE users,
we are a team of researchers from the GSD Lab of the University of Waterloo (ON, Canada). We do research on configuration methods and algorithms and are conducting a study on the problems faced by users during the configuration of the Linux kernel. We would greatly appreciate it if you could answer this questionnaire: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHJrQ1B6OXVCRTRmbGJ 2ZlFQTmdpQVE6MA It should not take you more than 15 minutes to complete.
Thank you very much for your contribution.
As someone who has been configuring kernels for many years, your questions don't seem to make much sense. What are your goals here with your study? Are you looking to improve the way the kernel is configured?
Yes, our goal is to improve how the kernel is configured and, ultimately, how other systems are configured. We are studying the Linux kernel because it is probably the configurable system that has the largest number of users across the world.
I really think the kernel has a large number of users of which only very few usethe configurable system since the modularization allowed distributions to deliver a kernel in such a way that no configuration is needed by end users anymore. Thus, the users of the system are mainly the developers of the kernel and the packager of the kernel packages in the distributions, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
On 19 Aug 2011, at 09:46, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Friday, August 19, 2011 03:10:19 PM Arnaud Hubaux wrote:
On 19 Aug 2011, at 01:00, Greg KH wrote:
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 09:50:25PM -0400, Arnaud Hubaux wrote:
Dear openSUSE users,
we are a team of researchers from the GSD Lab of the University of Waterloo (ON, Canada). We do research on configuration methods and algorithms and are conducting a study on the problems faced by users during the configuration of the Linux kernel. We would greatly appreciate it if you could answer this questionnaire: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHJrQ1B6OXVCRTRmbGJ 2ZlFQTmdpQVE6MA It should not take you more than 15 minutes to complete.
Thank you very much for your contribution.
As someone who has been configuring kernels for many years, your questions don't seem to make much sense. What are your goals here with your study? Are you looking to improve the way the kernel is configured?
Yes, our goal is to improve how the kernel is configured and, ultimately, how other systems are configured. We are studying the Linux kernel because it is probably the configurable system that has the largest number of users across the world.
I really think the kernel has a large number of users of which only very few usethe configurable system since the modularization allowed distributions to deliver a kernel in such a way that no configuration is needed by end users anymore.
Thus, the users of the system are mainly the developers of the kernel and the packager of the kernel packages in the distributions,
Thank you very much for your insight, Andreas. Do you have any suggestions as to who I should contact or where I should post this study to get the most feedback? \ArHu-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 09:58:06AM -0400, Arnaud Hubaux wrote:
Thank you very much for your insight, Andreas. Do you have any suggestions as to who I should contact or where I should post this study to get the most feedback?
What about the main place for Linux kernel development, the linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org mailing list? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
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