On Friday 31 October 2014 13.36:12 Joschi Brauchle wrote:
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 07:39:02AM +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote:
At Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:36:35 +0100, Jiri Slaby wrote:
On 10/29/2014, 09:08 AM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
3.16.x will be discontinued after 3.18 release.
3.17 actually. 3.16.7 is supposed to be the last one.
So 3.16 is literally dead.
Oh really? That's bad for openSUSE 13.2.
The discussion seems stalling again. So, do I understand correctly that we won't do any fixes for openSUSE 13.2 kernel unless explicitly specified in bug reports, right?
I'd like to add some end user perspective (clearly lacking background on the technical problems of a maintenance upgrade):
openSUSE 13.2 has been announced basically everywhere on the net to be *released* with kernel 3.17, even on official openSUSE blogs/pages. If one searches for "opensuse 13.2 kernel version" and reads the articles, not just headlines, the picture one gets is that the beta/rc1 has 3.16 but final will have 3.17. Once RC1 is reached it has always been the story to use what was there at that time. Still you can open a bug for that.
So for me, seeing a *brand new* openSUSE release with a 3.16 kernel that is not fully supporting some rather popular current hardware and being discontinued soon after release is pretty discouraging.
That's one perception, the other one would be uh they launch a kernel for which none of tier module are tested or existant ... Choose your poison.
Waiting for a 13.3 release might be a gamble as 13.2 took somewhat longer than the usual 8 months and https://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime states that the future release schedule beyond 13.2 is unclear. Will be certainly a year release soon, (at least I'm in favor off)
Then that's why there will be tumbleweed ... Get all the new stuff stable & tested on your computer. Or take the risk to follow kernel-stable on your computer. (Excellent repo btw)
This is what the (partly educated) end user might see... Add education. Regards, J Brauchle
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