(In reply to Martin Wilck from comment #60) > (In reply to John Shaw from comment #59) > > Unfortunately I can't really confirm what the exact version was for the > > nVidia update that came through. I tried hunting thoughout the saved > > snapshots, but only succeeded in hanging the yast snapshot tool after > > looking for differences between saved pairs. This is the first time that has > > happened, it may be that there were a LOT of differences in the pair I was > > examining. The current version for the nVidia driver is 450.66, but I doubt > > that helps much. > > You chose quite a complex method to figure this out ;-) > I'd just run "grep -i nvidia /var/log/zypp/history"; possibly prepend > /.snapshots/$X/snapshot with the snapshot where the problem first occured. > > > I finally found compiled efi shell (from the Arch Linux repos) and copied it > > to by UEFI partition. I should be able to get into to from the BIOS. I can > > try to boot the opensusi shim.efi file and see what happens. > > Thanks a lot for your cooperation! >From what I can tell, it looks like the driver went from 450.57 to 450.66 which would be a version change. The current state of the machine (which I need for work, so I can't afford to screw it up too much;) is that if I enable SecureBoot, it DOES now flash what is likely a MOK message (what else could it be?). This is almost certainly due to the nVidia driver. However, flash is the operative word. I cannot read it and I cannot catch it with a key press. I tried a couple of times, but the message is up for maybe 1/10th of a second. What this thing needs is to pause for a few seconds. The boot process at least gets past this and drops into grub. If I boot suse, it fails to load the nvidia driver. I tried to reinstall the driver, but I can't find a way to get MOK to enroll it. Booting with SecureBoot disabled still works. I could not boot the shellx86.efi from my /boot/efi partition. The bios gives the option to boot it from a USB drive, so I guess I can try that. As you suggest, I could try and add a boot entry with efibootmgr, but the USB option is safer.