[opensuse-kde] RFC: Dropping (for real) KTP from Applications 17.12
NOTE: this mail comes from a downstream (distributor / integrator) point of view. Feel free to correct possible errors. Also please try to keep both lists in CC. Hello, a recent message[1] to the release-team mailing list suggested that KDE Telepathy is de facto dead, due to lack of maintenance with the exception of infrequent contributions. Now, the problem seems also to affect the upstream Telepathy project, which is mostly dormant. Recently, a component used by KTP (the Qt bindings for Telepathy) broke with CMake 3.9 (and a fix or a release is not in sight; there has been no significant activity since 2015). At this point, with many parts of the stack that are likely bitrotting, and even a mostly dead upstream, it is the time to wonder whether KTP should be still part of Applications. It was suggested to keep it if it didn't break, but as I mentioned, some dependencies *are* already broken. Therefore, I would suggest for it to be dropped from the next Applications release (17.12). For what it's worth, it's being already dropped from openSUSE Tumbleweed (and the future stable versions as well), unless, of course, the impasse can be solved, but IMO it would just move the line to the next breakage (which is going to happen, sooner or later), [1] https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2017-August/010494.html -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team GPG key ID: A29D259B
Hi On quarta-feira, 23 de agosto de 2017 12:46:39 -03 Luca Beltrame wrote:
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Hello,
a recent message[1] to the release-team mailing list suggested that KDE Telepathy is de facto dead, due to lack of maintenance with the exception of infrequent contributions. Now, the problem seems also to affect the upstream Telepathy project, which is mostly dormant. Recently, a component used by KTP (the Qt bindings for Telepathy) broke with CMake 3.9 (and a fix or a release is not in sight; there has been no significant activity since 2015).
I tried building the latest git of TelepathyQt using latest available CMake (3.9.1) and it worked fine, I am interested in knowing what exactly is broken there. That alone still does not solve the problem of KTP being unmaintained, but at least it is not broken.
At this point, with many parts of the stack that are likely bitrotting, and even a mostly dead upstream, it is the time to wonder whether KTP should be still part of Applications. It was suggested to keep it if it didn't break, but as I mentioned, some dependencies *are* already broken.
Therefore, I would suggest for it to be dropped from the next Applications release (17.12). For what it's worth, it's being already dropped from openSUSE Tumbleweed (and the future stable versions as well), unless, of course, the impasse can be solved, but IMO it would just move the line to the next breakage (which is going to happen, sooner or later),
Just out of curiosity, what would be the alternative here? Getting back to Kopete? Cheers Gustavo Boiko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, On jeudi 24 août 2017 19:06:12 CEST Gustavo Pichorim Boiko wrote:
Hi
On quarta-feira, 23 de agosto de 2017 12:46:39 -03 Luca Beltrame wrote:
NOTE: this mail comes from a downstream (distributor / integrator) point of view. Feel free to correct possible errors. Also please try to keep both lists in CC.
Hello,
a recent message[1] to the release-team mailing list suggested that KDE Telepathy is de facto dead, due to lack of maintenance with the exception of infrequent contributions. Now, the problem seems also to affect the upstream Telepathy project, which is mostly dormant. Recently, a component used by KTP (the Qt bindings for Telepathy) broke with CMake 3.9 (and a fix or a release is not in sight; there has been no significant activity since 2015).
I tried building the latest git of TelepathyQt using latest available CMake (3.9.1) and it worked fine, I am interested in knowing what exactly is broken there.
It was a typo in Luca's email. This is about telepathy-logger-qt. Sorry for the confusion.
That alone still does not solve the problem of KTP being unmaintained, but at least it is not broken. [...]
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Luca Beltrame