[opensuse-kde] Desktop switching gone in 4.11.1?
Hi, I freshly installed KDE 4.11.1 from the K:D:411 repo, restarted, and now find out that the Desktop switching via mouse click on the running application is not supported any more, when I click on an application that runs on another desktop. I have to use the "Desktop-Switcher" App in the control bar to switch between desktops, or to use Ctrl+F{1-4}. From my "Mail" desktop I can click on pidgin, what is on my "others" desktop, but the desktops does not switch, and pidgin does not come to front. Am I the only one experiencing this? Werner -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
seems you need a double-click... does any one know why / how to revert to single-click without loosing double- click to open files etc? Nico On Tuesday 03 Sep 2013 17:12:46 Werner Flamme wrote:
Hi,
I freshly installed KDE 4.11.1 from the K:D:411 repo, restarted, and now find out that the Desktop switching via mouse click on the running application is not supported any more, when I click on an application that runs on another desktop.
I have to use the "Desktop-Switcher" App in the control bar to switch between desktops, or to use Ctrl+F{1-4}. From my "Mail" desktop I can click on pidgin, what is on my "others" desktop, but the desktops does not switch, and pidgin does not come to front.
Am I the only one experiencing this?
Werner
ok, the task manager application switching seems not to be related to the double/single-click setting in the mouse settings - at least it does not change its behaviour when changed at runtime like dolphin does (can't re-start / re-login now to confirm though) On Tuesday 03 Sep 2013 17:26:36 you wrote:
seems you need a double-click...
does any one know why / how to revert to single-click without loosing double- click to open files etc?
Nico
On Tuesday 03 Sep 2013 17:12:46 Werner Flamme wrote:
Hi,
I freshly installed KDE 4.11.1 from the K:D:411 repo, restarted, and now find out that the Desktop switching via mouse click on the running application is not supported any more, when I click on an application that runs on another desktop.
I have to use the "Desktop-Switcher" App in the control bar to switch between desktops, or to use Ctrl+F{1-4}. From my "Mail" desktop I can click on pidgin, what is on my "others" desktop, but the desktops does not switch, and pidgin does not come to front.
Am I the only one experiencing this?
Werner
[03.09.2013 17:26] [Nico Kruber]:
seems you need a double-click...
Thanks, yes, a double klick works.
does any one know why / how to revert to single-click without loosing double- click to open files etc?
Windows users always use double clicks. It is certainly the new way to work with KDE :-( A first sign was that in a file open/save dialogue you alwas have separate entries for all disks/mounted filesystems, what is totally unrelevant for UNIX/Linux. But if this really is an attempt to come closer to windows: why would I use a mockup and not the original? Trying to imitate another GUIs behaviour is not always desirable... Werner -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
[03.09.2013 18:43] [Nico Kruber]:
On Tuesday 03 Sep 2013 17:46:43 Werner Flamme wrote:
[03.09.2013 17:26] [Nico Kruber]:
seems you need a double-click...
Thanks, yes, a double klick works.
it only seems to affect the task manager though - desktop switcher etc work as expected (single click)
Yes, it (still ;-)) does. Playing around with the double click feature does not change anything (except that activating double click causes everything needing a double click). Grrrrrrr... Werner -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Tirsdag den 3. september 2013 18:51:16 skrev Carl Fletcher:
On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 16:26:36 +0100, Nico Kruber
wrote:
seems you need a double-click...
Yuck! Nooo... please, this is KDE!
Did any of you guys even consider the possibility of it being an unintentional bug? The task manager was rewritten for 4.11 and this regression only appeared in 4.11.1 - a bugfix release which shouldn't have new "features" or behavioural changes. A guy in #kde claimed he needed doubleclick now even to switch between between tasks on the same virtual desktop. And btw. MS Windows never required double click on the taskbar. Did anyone bother to try if the same thing happens with the 'icontasks' widget also? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
In data martedì 03 settembre 2013 19:05:14, Werner Flamme ha scritto:
does not change anything (except that activating double click causes everything needing a double click). Grrrrrrr...
It is a regression in the QML task manager, fix is being worked on upstream. -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team KDE Science supporter GPG key ID: 6E1A4E79
In data martedì 03 settembre 2013 20:31:41, Luca Beltrame ha scritto:
It is a regression in the QML task manager, fix is being worked on upstream.
I stand corrected, a fix has already been pushed to upstream git. ;) -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team KDE Science supporter GPG key ID: 6E1A4E79
On Tuesday 03 of September 2013 20:33:28 Luca Beltrame wrote:
In data martedì 03 settembre 2013 20:31:41, Luca Beltrame ha scritto:
It is a regression in the QML task manager, fix is being worked on upstream. I stand corrected, a fix has already been pushed to upstream git. ;)
It should be also fixed in KDF and KR411 on the next update -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
The question is, how can it be that such an obviously bug get into a tested final? Is KDE software not tested before release? Am Dienstag, 3. September 2013, 20:09:04 schrieb Martin Schlander:
Tirsdag den 3. september 2013 18:51:16 skrev Carl Fletcher:
On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 16:26:36 +0100, Nico Kruber
wrote:
seems you need a double-click...
Yuck! Nooo... please, this is KDE!
Did any of you guys even consider the possibility of it being an unintentional bug?
The task manager was rewritten for 4.11 and this regression only appeared in 4.11.1 - a bugfix release which shouldn't have new "features" or behavioural changes.
A guy in #kde claimed he needed doubleclick now even to switch between between tasks on the same virtual desktop. And btw. MS Windows never required double click on the taskbar.
Did anyone bother to try if the same thing happens with the 'icontasks' widget also?
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On Tuesday 03 of September 2013 21:24:19 Sebastian Niemeyer wrote:
Is KDE software not tested before release?
Yes, it. Regression has landed in between 4.11.00 and 4.11.1. Additionally, it was reported, but developer could not reproduce it (e.g. as neither did i experience the bug) This things can happen, and can be expected in the earlier point releases. Luckily, the bug is fixed on the same day of the release, so i don't think there's much harm done... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 03 Sep 2013 21:02:59 šumski wrote:
On Tuesday 03 of September 2013 20:33:28 Luca Beltrame wrote:
In data martedì 03 settembre 2013 20:31:41, Luca Beltrame ha scritto:
It is a regression in the QML task manager, fix is being worked on upstream.
I stand corrected, a fix has already been pushed to upstream git. ;)
It should be also fixed in KDF and KR411 on the next update
thank you can give a link in the commit (out of curiosity)? Nico and btw: of course I didn't think this has changed intentionally (but I agree, Werner, you have probably been too aggressively nagging)
On Tuesday 03 September 2013 21:39:30 Nico Kruber wrote:
It should be also fixed in KDF and KR411 on the next update
thank you can give a link in the commit (out of curiosity)?
http://commits.kde.org/kde-runtime/be1a5d484c70f4f6a383150810afbfbb367db2ac Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Martin Schlander [03.09.2013 20:09]:
Tirsdag den 3. september 2013 18:51:16 skrev Carl Fletcher:
On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 16:26:36 +0100, Nico Kruber
wrote:
seems you need a double-click...
Yuck! Nooo... please, this is KDE!
Did any of you guys even consider the possibility of it being an unintentional bug?
Not really. Whenever I asked if a certain bug might be fixed, I was told that it is not a bug but a new design feature.
The task manager was rewritten for 4.11 and this regression only appeared in 4.11.1 - a bugfix release which shouldn't have new "features" or behavioural changes.
Yes. The double click feature could well have been a design decision, but somehow missed its way into 4.11.0. So, now with 4.11.1 this bug is fixed and the feature is finally delivered.
A guy in #kde claimed he needed doubleclick now even to switch between between tasks on the same virtual desktop. And btw. MS Windows never required double click on the taskbar.
No, but on every other occasion. But then, they don't have multiple desktops... Regards, Werner -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
šumski [03.09.2013 21:02]:
On Tuesday 03 of September 2013 20:33:28 Luca Beltrame wrote:
In data martedì 03 settembre 2013 20:31:41, Luca Beltrame ha scritto:
It is a regression in the QML task manager, fix is being worked on upstream. I stand corrected, a fix has already been pushed to upstream git. ;)
It should be also fixed in KDF and KR411 on the next update
It was already fixed about one hour after your mail :-) I could install it yesterday and the old behaviour is back. Thank you! Werner -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
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