https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=833253 applies to this installation.
KDE's system sounds do work when logged into KDE as root, but not as any other user, even after explicitly turning login and logoff sounds on in systemsettings, and rebooting.
As normal user, attempting to open YaST2 causes a popup window saying only
Su returned with an error.
Users are members of groups audio, pulse and pulse-access in /etc/group.
Some of the installed packages: alsa-1.0.27.2-3.5.1.i586 alsa-firmware-1.0.27-2.1.2.noarch alsa-oss-1.0.25-8.1.2.i586 alsa-plugins-1.0.27-3.1.1.i586 alsa-tools-1.0.27-5.1.3.i586 alsa-utils-1.0.27.2-4.2.1.i586 kernel-desktop-3.11.10-7.1.i686 libpulse-mainloop-glib0-4.0.git.270.g9490a-1.1.i586 libpulse0-4.0.git.270.g9490a-1.1.i586 libvlc5-2.1.2-193.3.i586 libvlccore5-2.0.8a-5.2.1.i586 libvlccore7-2.1.2-193.3.i586 media-player-info-21-2.2.1.noarch mplayer2-20130427-3.9.i586 phonon-backend-vlc-0.7.1-13.3.i586 smplayer2-20121224+0.8.0-1.50.i586 vlc-noX-2.1.2-193.3.i586 autoyast2-installation-3.0.8-5.1.noarch patterns-openSUSE-x11_yast-13.1-13.6.1.i586 patterns-openSUSE-yast2_basis-13.1-13.6.1.i586 yast2-3.0.11-7.1.i586 yast2-add-on-3.0.3-4.1.noarch yast2-backup-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-bootloader-3.0.3-2.1.3.i586 yast2-branding-openSUSE-3.0.0-2.1.2.noarch yast2-control-center-3.0.0-2.1.3.i586 yast2-control-center-qt-3.0.0-2.1.3.i586 yast2-core-3.0.3-1.1.i586 yast2-country-3.0.2-1.1.i586 yast2-country-data-3.0.2-1.1.i586 yast2-firewall-3.0.1-2.1.4.noarch yast2-hardware-detection-3.0.1-2.1.3.i586 yast2-inetd-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-installation-3.0.8-1.1.noarch yast2-iscsi-client-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-kerberos-client-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-ldap-3.0.1-2.1.3.i586 yast2-ldap-client-3.0.2-2.4.1.noarch yast2-mail-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-metapackage-handler-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-network-3.0.8-5.1.i586 yast2-nfs-client-3.0.2-1.3.noarch yast2-nfs-common-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-nis-client-3.0.1-2.4.3.i586 yast2-ntp-client-3.0.1-7.1.noarch yast2-online-update-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-online-update-frontend-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-packager-3.0.8-1.1.i586 yast2-pam-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-perl-bindings-3.0.1-3.1.i586 yast2-pkg-bindings-3.0.3-8.1.i586 yast2-printer-3.0.0-3.1.4.i586 yast2-proxy-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-qt-branding-openSUSE-13.1-10.4.13.noarch yast2-restore-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-ruby-bindings-3.0.4-1.1.i586 yast2-runlevel-3.0.1-1.1.noarch yast2-samba-client-3.0.1-3.1.noarch yast2-samba-server-3.0.2-2.1.4.noarch yast2-scanner-3.0.0-2.1.4.i586 yast2-security-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-services-manager-0.0.11-3.4.1.noarch yast2-slp-3.0.2-1.1.i586 yast2-sound-3.0.3-1.1.i586 yast2-storage-3.0.9-4.2.i586 yast2-sudo-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-sysconfig-3.0.1-2.1.4.noarch yast2-theme-openSUSE-3.0.1-1.2.noarch yast2-trans-en_US-3.0.0-4.11.1.noarch yast2-trans-stats-2.19.0-14.1.3.noarch yast2-transfer-3.0.1-2.1.3.i586 yast2-tune-3.0.2-1.1.i586 yast2-update-3.0.4-2.1.4.i586 yast2-users-3.0.1-2.1.4.i586 yast2-vm-3.0.2-2.1.4.i586 yast2-x11-3.0.1-2.2.1.i586 yast2-xml-3.0.0-2.1.2.i586 yast2-ycp-ui-bindings-3.0.2-6.1.i586
Repos: # | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh ---+-----------------------+-----------------------+---------+-------- 1 | BaseSystem | BaseSystem | Yes | No 2 | Mozilla | Mozilla | Yes | No 3 | MozillaLegacy | MozillaLegacy | Yes | Yes 4 | Non-OSS | Non-OSS | Yes | Yes 5 | OSS | OSS | Yes | Yes 6 | Packman | Packman | Yes | No 7 | UpdateNonOSS | UpdateNonOSS | Yes | Yes 8 | Updates | Updates | Yes | Yes 9 | VideoLAN | VideoLAN | Yes | No 10 | homeSubchaserMClatest | homeSubchaserMClatest | Yes | No
What's it take to get normal KDE users to have any sounds, and access to YaST2?
BTW, I discovered this by discovering SMplayer won't play audio from h.264 transport streams, and can't test if VLC has the same problem while logged in as root.
In data venerdì 21 febbraio 2014 03:08:31, Felix Miata ha scritto:
Hello,
KDE's system sounds do work when logged into KDE as root, but not as any
I assume you are *not* using pulseaudio? Because in that case it looks like a permission issue.
What's it take to get normal KDE users to have any sounds, and access to YaST2?
You're describing two different issues, I think. I can't reproduce either so I'm not sure.
On 2014-02-21 09:15 (GMT+0100) Luca Beltrame composed:
Felix Miata composed:
KDE's system sounds do work when logged into KDE as root, but not as any
I assume you are *not* using pulseaudio?
As you might have inferred from inclusion of libpulse* in OP, pulseaudio is not installed
Because in that case it looks like a permission issue.
Little doubt in my mind there is at least one permissions problem in that installation.
What's it take to get normal KDE users to have any sounds, and access to YaST2?
You're describing two different issues, I think. I can't reproduce either so I'm not sure.
While on the surface it seems obvious no YaST and no sound should be unrelated problems, the facts that root does have sound and su is broken for YaST for non-root makes it look likely there is some connection between the problems. I have no idea whether or if system sounds are possible in Icewm, but when I try to open YaST there, a small empty su xterm window opens, then closes.
Changelog for util-linux indicates in October config files for su were migrated from coreutils to util-linux. That changelog entry refers to https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=814626 which is classified as a Gnome bug, but discusses pam. From reading of comment 17 there, maybe that move is broken for systems upgraded from a previous milestone, as evidenced by the .rpmnew files in /etc/pam.d/ here.
On 2014-02-21 09:15 (GMT+0100) Luca Beltrame composed:
Felix Miata composed:
What's it take to get normal KDE users to have any sounds, and access to YaST2?
You're describing two different issues, I think. I can't reproduce either so I'm not sure.
I added a fresh minimalistic 64 bit 13.1/KDE4 installation from DVD to the same host. The only *pulse* installed here too is libpulse0 and libpulse-mainloop-glib0. At first, sound for ordinary user did not work. I added users to video, audio and elsewhere in /etc/group, rebooted, and sound for ordinary user in KDE works.
YaST2 for ordinary user works too, though selecting sound YaST2 claims the only sound device is not configured.
I guess in the other installation somewhere along the zypper dup'ing way from M3 to final with latest updates something got fouled or omitted and either needs to be installed or reinstalled. Any ideas what that might be?
On Friday, February 21, 2014 03:08:31 Felix Miata wrote:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=833253 applies to this installation.
KDE's system sounds do work when logged into KDE as root, but not as any other user, even after explicitly turning login and logoff sounds on in systemsettings, and rebooting.
As normal user, attempting to open YaST2 causes a popup window saying only
Su returned with an error.
Users are members of groups audio, pulse and pulse-access in /etc/group.
Some of the installed packages: alsa-1.0.27.2-3.5.1.i586 alsa-firmware-1.0.27-2.1.2.noarch alsa-oss-1.0.25-8.1.2.i586 alsa-plugins-1.0.27-3.1.1.i586 alsa-tools-1.0.27-5.1.3.i586 alsa-utils-1.0.27.2-4.2.1.i586 kernel-desktop-3.11.10-7.1.i686 libpulse-mainloop-glib0-4.0.git.270.g9490a-1.1.i586 libpulse0-4.0.git.270.g9490a-1.1.i586 libvlc5-2.1.2-193.3.i586 libvlccore5-2.0.8a-5.2.1.i586 libvlccore7-2.1.2-193.3.i586 media-player-info-21-2.2.1.noarch mplayer2-20130427-3.9.i586 phonon-backend-vlc-0.7.1-13.3.i586 smplayer2-20121224+0.8.0-1.50.i586 vlc-noX-2.1.2-193.3.i586 autoyast2-installation-3.0.8-5.1.noarch patterns-openSUSE-x11_yast-13.1-13.6.1.i586 patterns-openSUSE-yast2_basis-13.1-13.6.1.i586 yast2-3.0.11-7.1.i586 yast2-add-on-3.0.3-4.1.noarch yast2-backup-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-bootloader-3.0.3-2.1.3.i586 yast2-branding-openSUSE-3.0.0-2.1.2.noarch yast2-control-center-3.0.0-2.1.3.i586 yast2-control-center-qt-3.0.0-2.1.3.i586 yast2-core-3.0.3-1.1.i586 yast2-country-3.0.2-1.1.i586 yast2-country-data-3.0.2-1.1.i586 yast2-firewall-3.0.1-2.1.4.noarch yast2-hardware-detection-3.0.1-2.1.3.i586 yast2-inetd-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-installation-3.0.8-1.1.noarch yast2-iscsi-client-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-kerberos-client-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-ldap-3.0.1-2.1.3.i586 yast2-ldap-client-3.0.2-2.4.1.noarch yast2-mail-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-metapackage-handler-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-network-3.0.8-5.1.i586 yast2-nfs-client-3.0.2-1.3.noarch yast2-nfs-common-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-nis-client-3.0.1-2.4.3.i586 yast2-ntp-client-3.0.1-7.1.noarch yast2-online-update-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-online-update-frontend-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-packager-3.0.8-1.1.i586 yast2-pam-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-perl-bindings-3.0.1-3.1.i586 yast2-pkg-bindings-3.0.3-8.1.i586 yast2-printer-3.0.0-3.1.4.i586 yast2-proxy-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-qt-branding-openSUSE-13.1-10.4.13.noarch yast2-restore-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-ruby-bindings-3.0.4-1.1.i586 yast2-runlevel-3.0.1-1.1.noarch yast2-samba-client-3.0.1-3.1.noarch yast2-samba-server-3.0.2-2.1.4.noarch yast2-scanner-3.0.0-2.1.4.i586 yast2-security-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-services-manager-0.0.11-3.4.1.noarch yast2-slp-3.0.2-1.1.i586 yast2-sound-3.0.3-1.1.i586 yast2-storage-3.0.9-4.2.i586 yast2-sudo-3.0.0-2.1.4.noarch yast2-sysconfig-3.0.1-2.1.4.noarch yast2-theme-openSUSE-3.0.1-1.2.noarch yast2-trans-en_US-3.0.0-4.11.1.noarch yast2-trans-stats-2.19.0-14.1.3.noarch yast2-transfer-3.0.1-2.1.3.i586 yast2-tune-3.0.2-1.1.i586 yast2-update-3.0.4-2.1.4.i586 yast2-users-3.0.1-2.1.4.i586 yast2-vm-3.0.2-2.1.4.i586 yast2-x11-3.0.1-2.2.1.i586 yast2-xml-3.0.0-2.1.2.i586 yast2-ycp-ui-bindings-3.0.2-6.1.i586
quick question, why is the phonon-backend-vlc installed and not phonon- backend-gstreamer?
Repos: # | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh ---+-----------------------+-----------------------+---------+-------- 1 | BaseSystem | BaseSystem | Yes | No 2 | Mozilla | Mozilla | Yes | No 3 | MozillaLegacy | MozillaLegacy | Yes | Yes 4 | Non-OSS | Non-OSS | Yes | Yes 5 | OSS | OSS | Yes | Yes 6 | Packman | Packman | Yes | No 7 | UpdateNonOSS | UpdateNonOSS | Yes | Yes 8 | Updates | Updates | Yes | Yes 9 | VideoLAN | VideoLAN | Yes | No 10 | homeSubchaserMClatest | homeSubchaserMClatest | Yes | No
What's it take to get normal KDE users to have any sounds, and access to YaST2?
BTW, I discovered this by discovering SMplayer won't play audio from h.264 transport streams, and can't test if VLC has the same problem while logged in as root.
On 2014-02-21 14:12 (GMT-0500) Jason composed:
quick question, why is the phonon-backend-vlc installed and not phonon- backend-gstreamer?
Several reasons. I'm a KDE user. Package names with an initial "g" tend to be gnome or gtk, or are derived from or having roots in one and/or the other. Any time I'm given a choice between two packages, one of which contains a string that begins with "g", and the other which does not, the one without becomes my initial choice. I have an additional aversion to gstreamer, as it does as Windows apps often do by incorporating versioning in its root package name. I have a second aversion in gstreamer's incorporating (usually unnecessary, plus 2 strokes to type, one of which is non-touch/top row) underscore character(s) in its filename.
Lørdag den 22. februar 2014 03:12:44 skrev Jason:
quick question, why is the phonon-backend-vlc installed and not phonon- backend-gstreamer?
For 13.2 phonon-backend-vlc is expected to be made the default. So it's only good to have it tested.
On Sunday, February 23, 2014 09:30:40 Martin Schlander wrote:
Lørdag den 22. februar 2014 03:12:44 skrev Jason:
quick question, why is the phonon-backend-vlc installed and not phonon- backend-gstreamer?
For 13.2 phonon-backend-vlc is expected to be made the default. So it's only good to have it tested.
Good to know, thanks! Switched now, so far so good.
Fredag den 21. februar 2014 03:08:31 skrev Felix Miata:
BTW, I discovered this by discovering SMplayer won't play audio from h.264 transport streams, and can't test if VLC has the same problem while logged in as root.
Fredag den 21. februar 2014 03:08:31 skrev Felix Miata:
What's it take to get normal KDE users to have any sounds, and access to YaST2?
BTW, I discovered this by discovering SMplayer won't play audio from h.264 transport streams, and can't test if VLC has the same problem while logged in as root.
If SMPlayer and VLC don't have sound either, it's not a KDE problem, but a systemwide problem.
Do you have sound if you log into icewm instead?
On 2014-02-23 09:29 (GMT+0900) Martin Schlander composed:
Felix Miata composed:
What's it take to get normal KDE users to have any sounds, and access to YaST2?
BTW, I discovered this by discovering SMplayer won't play audio from h.264 transport streams, and can't test if VLC has the same problem while logged in as root.
If SMPlayer and VLC don't have sound either, it's not a KDE problem, but a systemwide problem.
Eventually due a brief popup message "sound disabled" I figured out SMPlayer tries to use Pulseaudio whether it is installed or not. Selecting Alsa in its settings solved the problem for it. Meanwhile, I had installed a whole bunch of gstreamer* and deps, and VLC will no longer play even the video for the same files SMPlayer now plays OK.
Do you have sound if you log into icewm instead?
Two nights have passed since, but IIRC, using Icewm didn't change anything. I don't know if Icewm is capable of providing DE sounds like KDE does, which would indicate whether sound works for that login at all.
I started a separate thread in opensuse-multimedia at the time which has yet to generate any response.
-
Felix Miata -
Jason -
Luca Beltrame -
Martin Schlander