[opensuse-kde] Qt 4.3 and KDE4 packages.
Hello! I use the KDE4 packages for 10.2. When I switch the window-decoration to oxygen I just get plain red as window-decoration. Is that just the way SVN currently and in the past few weeks looks, or is there a bug in relation to my graphics driver (nvidia) or any other setting on my system. I remove my .kde* directories for the kde4 user regularly. I tried to switch composite on/off. My second issue concerns Qt 4.3. I use Psi SVN and since the last few versions of the Qt packages I noticed that while scrolling lists and text-windows, the picture gets distorted, i.e. a lot of lines with different bits of the actual text. Further, it happens quite often that the Psi-windows intersect with other windows i.e. are not kept as different layers above/below each other. I thought it would be a Psi bug, yet I notice the same in KDE4 when scrolling the plasmoid-list. If you scroll often enough up and down you will notice that the list will show duplicate entries which are just graphical errors and not really there. Is that a known bug in Qt 4.3? I would appreciate any hints that help me to decide whether it would be useful to report these issues as bugs or not. Sven --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Am Freitag 13 Juli 2007 schrieb Sven Burmeister:
Hello!
I use the KDE4 packages for 10.2. When I switch the window-decoration to oxygen I just get plain red as window-decoration. Is that just the way SVN currently and in the past few weeks looks, or is there a bug in relation to my graphics driver (nvidia) or any other setting on my system. I remove my .kde* directories for the kde4 user regularly. I tried to switch composite on/off.
The oxygen style is going to be removed, because it's not just plain buggy but also horrible code. Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 13 July 2007 09:16:34 Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am Freitag 13 Juli 2007 schrieb Sven Burmeister:
I use the KDE4 packages for 10.2. When I switch the window-decoration to oxygen I just get plain red as window-decoration. Is that just the way SVN currently and in the past few weeks looks, or is there a bug in relation to my graphics driver (nvidia) or any other setting on my system. I remove my .kde* directories for the kde4 user regularly. I tried to switch composite on/off.
The oxygen style is going to be removed, because it's not just plain buggy but also horrible code.
Before your faith in the pillars of KDE is shaken, what I hear in #oxygen is: "Reimplemented from scratch using the Plastik code as a base, instead of the Baghira code it uses currently". Will -- Will Stephenson Desktop Engineer Interfaces and Applications --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Hi! On Freitag, 13. Juli 2007, Will Stephenson wrote:
The oxygen style is going to be removed, because it's not just plain buggy but also horrible code.
Before your faith in the pillars of KDE is shaken, what I hear in #oxygen is: "Reimplemented from scratch using the Plastik code as a base, instead of the Baghira code it uses currently".
I limit my faith and expectations to alpha-status. :) But it's good to hear that they are going to re-write it because currently I think it is not usable. I do not mean the bugs but the colours. The scroll-buttons for example are nearly as white as their background and thus hard to spot. Same for drop-down menus' items. I'll just wait until they claim it should be usable. I was just irritated that I could not get it to work but others could. Maybe that was the mistake in the first place? Sven --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 13 July 2007 15:43:44 Sven Burmeister wrote:
Hello!
I use the KDE4 packages for 10.2. When I switch the window-decoration to oxygen I just get plain red as window-decoration. Is that just the way SVN currently and in the past few weeks looks, or is there a bug in relation to my graphics driver (nvidia) or any other setting on my system. I remove my .kde* directories for the kde4 user regularly. I tried to switch composite on/off.
My second issue concerns Qt 4.3. I use Psi SVN and since the last few versions of the Qt packages I noticed that while scrolling lists and text-windows, the picture gets distorted, i.e. a lot of lines with different bits of the actual text.
Further, it happens quite often that the Psi-windows intersect with other windows i.e. are not kept as different layers above/below each other. I thought it would be a Psi bug, yet I notice the same in KDE4 when scrolling the plasmoid-list. If you scroll often enough up and down you will notice that the list will show duplicate entries which are just graphical errors and not really there. Is that a known bug in Qt 4.3?
I would appreciate any hints that help me to decide whether it would be useful to report these issues as bugs or not.
Sven
I'm also using the KDE4 packages for 10.2 with the nvidia driver (but the standard qt4 packages) and get the same artefacts when scrolling (it seems to scroll down ok but scrolling up is problematic). The first time I tried them, I could switch composite on and play with the wiz bang effects, but after an update a couple of weeks ago, the display just locks up as soon as I enable it & I have to kill X and edit the conf file to turn it off again. Currently I can't get konqueror to work & kontact has never worked (though the individual components of it worked at first). I also clear out the .kde* directories each time I upgrade the packages. I just figured this is alpha code and expect things to be broken - I'm not sure if that's the right attitude to take though! Cheers, -- Ian GPG Key: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~imoore/imoore-swift.asc
Hi! On Freitag, 13. Juli 2007, Ian Moore wrote:
I'm also using the KDE4 packages for 10.2 with the nvidia driver (but the standard qt4 packages) and get the same artefacts when scrolling (it seems to scroll down ok but scrolling up is problematic).
So I am not the only one. :)
The first time I tried them, I could switch composite on and play with the wiz bang effects, but after an update a couple of weeks ago, the display just locks up as soon as I enable it & I have to kill X and edit the conf file to turn it off again.
I have not tried the kwin-composite lately.
Currently I can't get konqueror to work & kontact has never worked (though the individual components of it worked at first).
kontact works for me, if I do not maximise it but leave it at the normal window-size. konqueror currently does neither work for me. I also get a crash on each KDE4 start which states that " the application e/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo (kaccess) has crashed".
I also clear out the .kde* directories each time I upgrade the packages. I just figured this is alpha code and expect things to be broken - I'm not sure if that's the right attitude to take though!
KDE4 is alpha and thus it is hard to know whether it is bug or just work in progress. But Qt 4.3 is not alpha and since KDE4 and my Psi are compiled with the same packages and show the same behaviour, I do not think that it is KDE, but Qt that triggers the "distortion when scrolling" bug. Sven --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 13 July 2007, Sven Burmeister said:
KDE4 is alpha and thus it is hard to know whether it is bug or just work in progress. But Qt 4.3 is not alpha and since KDE4 and my Psi are compiled with the same packages and show the same behaviour, I do not think that it is KDE, but Qt that triggers the "distortion when scrolling" bug.
Maybe you're using a Qt4 from the buildservice with experimental patches applied by us? Try PSI with stable Qt4 from 10.2 instead. Will -- Desktop Engineer Interfaces and Applications Team --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Hi! On Freitag, 13. Juli 2007, Will Stephenson wrote:
Maybe you're using a Qt4 from the buildservice with experimental patches applied by us? Try PSI with stable Qt4 from 10.2 instead.
Psi 0.11 requires 4.2.3, the one from 10.2 is 4.2.1. Build 69 of qt4(.3) from the build-service results in Psi compiling but giving a "memory access error", even the revisions I am sure that worked before. Sven --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Sonntag, 15. Juli 2007, Sven Burmeister wrote:
Psi 0.11 requires 4.2.3, the one from 10.2 is 4.2.1. Build 69 of qt4(.3) from the build-service results in Psi compiling but giving a "memory access error", even the revisions I am sure that worked before.
Do not ask me why, but now it does work. So false alarm. :| Sven --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Friday, 13. July 2007 08:13:44 Sven Burmeister wrote:
I use the KDE4 packages for 10.2. When I switch the window-decoration to oxygen I just get plain red as window-decoration. Is that just the way SVN
Same for me, on Dirk's workstation it seems to work fine though. :-| Bye, Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
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