Is there a problem with KDE repos for 42.2 at the moment?
Most but not all (e.g. kwayland) packages in http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Frameworks5/openSUSE_Leap_42.... appear to require Qt 5.8 but http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt5/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/ seems to contain a weird mixture of Qt 5.7.1 and Qt 5.8.
As a result zypper dup offers to downgrade the world.
Hi,
Am Dienstag, 16. Mai 2017, 11:01:46 CEST schrieb Vadym Krevs:
Is there a problem with KDE repos for 42.2 at the moment?
Most but not all (e.g. kwayland) packages in http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Frameworks5/openSUSE_Leap_42.... appear to require Qt 5.8 but http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt5/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/ seems to contain a weird mixture of Qt 5.7.1 and Qt 5.8.
As a result zypper dup offers to downgrade the world.
Yes, this is known and will fix itself in a few hours after the 5.10 beta is built.
Plasma 5.9 contains a (upstream) build loop which made it unbuildable after the KDE:Qt5 downgrade.
Cheers, Fabian
In data martedì 16 maggio 2017 11:01:46 CEST, Vadym Krevs ha scritto:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt5/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/ seems to contain a weird mixture of Qt 5.7.1 and Qt 5.8.
KDE:Qt5 has been rolled back to 5.7.1 due to 5.8 being unsuitable (and being de facto a throwaway release by the Qt Project). Please report which packages are still on 5.8 so we can adjust, if need be.
On 16/05/17 10:07, Luca Beltrame wrote:
In data martedì 16 maggio 2017 11:01:46 CEST, Vadym Krevs ha scritto:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt5/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/ seems to contain a weird mixture of Qt 5.7.1 and Qt 5.8.
KDE:Qt5 has been rolled back to 5.7.1 due to 5.8 being unsuitable (and being de facto a throwaway release by the Qt Project). Please report which packages are still on 5.8 so we can adjust, if need be.
Any package with the word "chart" in it - e.g. libQt5Charts5-5.8.0-3.1.x86_64.rpm .
On 16/05/17 10:07, Luca Beltrame wrote:
In data martedì 16 maggio 2017 11:01:46 CEST, Vadym Krevs ha scritto:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt5/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/ seems to contain a weird mixture of Qt 5.7.1 and Qt 5.8.
KDE:Qt5 has been rolled back to 5.7.1 due to 5.8 being unsuitable (and being de facto a throwaway release by the Qt Project). Please report which packages are still on 5.8 so we can adjust, if need be.
Broken again ...
# zypper -v dup -d Verbosity: 1 Warning: You are about to do a distribution upgrade with all enabled repositories. Make sure these repositories are compatible before you continue. See 'man zypper' for more information about this command. ... Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Computing distribution upgrade... Force resolution: No Computing upgrade... 17 Problems: Problem: nothing provides libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.9)(64bit) needed by libAppStreamQt2-0.10.5-30.4.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.9)(64bit) needed by libKF5DocTools5-5.34.0-141.2.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.9)(64bit) needed by libKF5NewStuffCore5-5.34.0-118.2.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.9)(64bit) needed by libKF5Prison5-5.34.0-19.2.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.9)(64bit) needed by libKF5SyntaxHighlighting5-5.34.0-33.8.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.9)(64bit) needed by syntax-highlighting-5.34.0-33.8.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.9)(64bit) needed by kio-5.34.0-181.2.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.9)(64bit) needed by kwin5-5.10.0-190.5.x86_64 Problem: pim-sieve-editor-17.04.1-18.1.x86_64 requires libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.7)(64bit), but this requirement cannot be provided Problem: pim-data-exporter-17.04.1-21.5.x86_64 requires libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.7)(64bit), but this requirement cannot be provided Problem: mbox-importer-17.04.1-19.1.x86_64 requires libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.7)(64bit), but this requirement cannot be provided Problem: libqt5-qtstyleplugins-platformtheme-gtk2-5.0.0+git20170311-18.1.x86_64 requires libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.7)(64bit), but this requirement cannot be provided Problem: kmail-account-wizard-17.04.1-20.1.x86_64 requires libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.7)(64bit), but this requirement cannot be provided Problem: kleopatra-17.04.1-22.1.x86_64 requires libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.7)(64bit), but this requirement cannot be provided Problem: akonadi-import-wizard-17.04.1-19.1.x86_64 requires libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.7)(64bit), but this requirement cannot be provided Problem: nothing provides libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.9)(64bit) needed by kio-5.34.0-181.2.x86_64 Problem: libKF5CompactDisc5-17.04.1-22.1.x86_64 requires libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.7)(64bit), but this requirement cannot be provided
Problem: nothing provides libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.9)(64bit) needed by libAppStreamQt2-0.10.5-30.4.x86_64 Solution 1: keep obsolete libAppStreamQt2-0.10.5-30.3.x86_64 Solution 2: break libAppStreamQt2-0.10.5-30.4.x86_64 by ignoring some of its dependencies
Choose from above solutions by number or skip, retry or cancel [1/2/s/r/c] (c):
...and the person who gets automatically assigned on bugs referring to KDE:Qt5, KDE:Applications does not react.
I wish we could somehow arrive back at the unstable stuff being in KDE:Unstable...
FFS, there are actually people USING these repos!
</rant>
Am 30.05.2017 um 12:01 schrieb Vadym Krevs:
On 16/05/17 10:07, Luca Beltrame wrote:
In data martedì 16 maggio 2017 11:01:46 CEST, Vadym Krevs ha scritto:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt5/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/ seems to contain a weird mixture of Qt 5.7.1 and Qt 5.8.
KDE:Qt5 has been rolled back to 5.7.1 due to 5.8 being unsuitable (and being de facto a throwaway release by the Qt Project). Please report which packages are still on 5.8 so we can adjust, if need be.
Broken again ...
# zypper -v dup -d Verbosity: 1 Warning: You are about to do a distribution upgrade with all enabled repositories. Make sure these repositories are compatible before you continue. See 'man zypper' for more information about this command. ... Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Computing distribution upgrade... Force resolution: No Computing upgrade... 17 Problems: Problem: nothing provides libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.9)(64bit) needed by libAppStreamQt2-0.10.5-30.4.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.9)(64bit) needed by libKF5DocTools5-5.34.0-141.2.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.9)(64bit) needed by libKF5NewStuffCore5-5.34.0-118.2.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.9)(64bit) needed by libKF5Prison5-5.34.0-19.2.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.9)(64bit) needed by libKF5SyntaxHighlighting5-5.34.0-33.8.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.9)(64bit) needed by syntax-highlighting-5.34.0-33.8.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.9)(64bit) needed by kio-5.34.0-181.2.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.9)(64bit) needed by kwin5-5.10.0-190.5.x86_64 Problem: pim-sieve-editor-17.04.1-18.1.x86_64 requires libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.7)(64bit), but this requirement cannot be provided Problem: pim-data-exporter-17.04.1-21.5.x86_64 requires libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.7)(64bit), but this requirement cannot be provided Problem: mbox-importer-17.04.1-19.1.x86_64 requires libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.7)(64bit), but this requirement cannot be provided Problem: libqt5-qtstyleplugins-platformtheme-gtk2-5.0.0+git20170311-18.1.x86_64 requires libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.7)(64bit), but this requirement cannot be provided Problem: kmail-account-wizard-17.04.1-20.1.x86_64 requires libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.7)(64bit), but this requirement cannot be provided Problem: kleopatra-17.04.1-22.1.x86_64 requires libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.7)(64bit), but this requirement cannot be provided Problem: akonadi-import-wizard-17.04.1-19.1.x86_64 requires libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.7)(64bit), but this requirement cannot be provided Problem: nothing provides libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.9)(64bit) needed by kio-5.34.0-181.2.x86_64 Problem: libKF5CompactDisc5-17.04.1-22.1.x86_64 requires libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.7)(64bit), but this requirement cannot be provided
Problem: nothing provides libQt5Core.so.5(Qt_5.9)(64bit) needed by libAppStreamQt2-0.10.5-30.4.x86_64 Solution 1: keep obsolete libAppStreamQt2-0.10.5-30.3.x86_64 Solution 2: break libAppStreamQt2-0.10.5-30.4.x86_64 by ignoring some of its dependencies
Choose from above solutions by number or skip, retry or cancel [1/2/s/r/c] (c):
Il 30 maggio 2017 19:57:32 CEST, Mathias Homann Mathias.Homann@opensuse.org ha scritto:
...and the person who gets automatically assigned on bugs referring to KDE:Qt5, KDE:Applications does not react.
It's not a person, it's a group of people.
I wish we could somehow arrive back at the unstable stuff being in KDE:Unstable...
It is. That's why I'm able to report bugs before the distro even sees it (not just me, but anyone using them). KU* was on Qt 5.9 for quite a while.
FFS, there are actually people USING these repos!
That is why publishing got disabled. Bear in mind that at some point we would have to upload "stable" tars and a fallout would've occurred anyway...
Il 30/05/2017 20:06, Luca Beltrame ha scritto:
FFS, there are actually people USING these repos!
That is why publishing got disabled. Bear in mind that at some point we would have to upload "stable" tars and a fallout would've occurred anyway...
I know that you do your best in your spare time but I relly hope that you rethink the way you handle these repos.. For me are almost unuseable..
Daniele.
Hi,
Am Dienstag, 30. Mai 2017, 20:42:24 CEST schrieb Daniele:
Il 30/05/2017 20:06, Luca Beltrame ha scritto:
FFS, there are actually people USING these repos!
That is why publishing got disabled. Bear in mind that at some point we would have to upload "stable" tars and a fallout would've occurred anyway...
I know that you do your best in your spare time but I relly hope that you rethink the way you handle these repos.. For me are almost unuseable..
KDE:Qt5 is not supposed to be usable, except for KDE:Frameworks5/openSUSE_Leap_42.2. It does not make sense to use it for anything else, as Plasma and KF5 parts depend on the private API, which won't match.
Its sole purpose is to be a devel prj for factory, where we will add RCs and maybe even Beta releases to submit them for testing.
Note that tomorrow Qt 5.9.0 will be released and checked in to KDE:Qt5, but as that's a relatively minor change it should go a bit smoother.
Cheers, Fabian
Daniele.
* Vadym Krevs vkrevs@serena.com [05-30-17 12:02]:
On 16/05/17 10:07, Luca Beltrame wrote:
In data martedì 16 maggio 2017 11:01:46 CEST, Vadym Krevs ha scritto:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt5/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/ seems to contain a weird mixture of Qt 5.7.1 and Qt 5.8.
KDE:Qt5 has been rolled back to 5.7.1 due to 5.8 being unsuitable (and being de facto a throwaway release by the Qt Project). Please report which packages are still on 5.8 so we can adjust, if need be.
Broken again ...
# zypper -v dup -d Verbosity: 1 Warning: You are about to do a distribution upgrade with all enabled repositories. Make sure these repositories are compatible before you continue. See 'man zypper' for more information about this command.
you do realize you shouldn't be using "dup" for Leap. and it may be contributing to your continuing problems, re: "Broken again ..."
On 30/05/17 20:58, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
- Vadym Krevs vkrevs@serena.com [05-30-17 12:02]:
On 16/05/17 10:07, Luca Beltrame wrote:
In data martedì 16 maggio 2017 11:01:46 CEST, Vadym Krevs ha scritto:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt5/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/ seems to contain a weird mixture of Qt 5.7.1 and Qt 5.8.
KDE:Qt5 has been rolled back to 5.7.1 due to 5.8 being unsuitable (and being de facto a throwaway release by the Qt Project). Please report which packages are still on 5.8 so we can adjust, if need be.
Broken again ...
# zypper -v dup -d Verbosity: 1 Warning: You are about to do a distribution upgrade with all enabled repositories. Make sure these repositories are compatible before you continue. See 'man zypper' for more information about this command.
you do realize you shouldn't be using "dup" for Leap. and it may be contributing to your continuing problems, re: "Broken again ..."
Is there an actual technical reason for your recommendation?
* Vadym Krevs vkrevs@serena.com [05-31-17 03:59]:
On 30/05/17 20:58, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
- Vadym Krevs vkrevs@serena.com [05-30-17 12:02]:
On 16/05/17 10:07, Luca Beltrame wrote:
In data martedì 16 maggio 2017 11:01:46 CEST, Vadym Krevs ha scritto:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt5/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/ seems to contain a weird mixture of Qt 5.7.1 and Qt 5.8.
KDE:Qt5 has been rolled back to 5.7.1 due to 5.8 being unsuitable (and being de facto a throwaway release by the Qt Project). Please report which packages are still on 5.8 so we can adjust, if need be.
Broken again ...
# zypper -v dup -d Verbosity: 1 Warning: You are about to do a distribution upgrade with all enabled repositories. Make sure these repositories are compatible before you continue. See 'man zypper' for more information about this command.
you do realize you shouldn't be using "dup" for Leap. and it may be contributing to your continuing problems, re: "Broken again ..."
Is there an actual technical reason for your recommendation?
from the opensuse list:
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:20:34 -0700 From: Fraser_Bell Fraser_Bell@openSUSE.org To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] zypper dup Question
On 04/25/2017 01:04 PM, Bryon Adams wrote:
Running Leap 42.2 on my pi and out of curiosity I ran zypper dup to see what would show up. It looks like it wants to install a bunch of graphical applications and I'm not sure why, could someone explain this to me?
This is a minimal install from the JeOS image. I pasted the output on susepaste here: http://susepaste.org/16775081
Regards, Bryon
zypper dup is for a distribution upgrade (that is, say from openSUSE 42.1 to 42.2, or 42.2 to 42.3).
The only exception is Tumbleweed, since it is a rolling release, each release is effectively a "distribution upgrade", in a way, so zypper dup is used for updating Tumbleweed.
If you do a zypper dup, it will want to switch all packages back to the main repos when there is a higher version number, among other things, and it can also give you unexpected results if you have other repos enabled.
Your only use of zypper dup, in Leap, would be if the system is messed up and you want to return it to a closer state to the original install. But, then, your best bet would be to use the install DVD and choose and "Upgrade".
Hope that explains it sufficiently for you. -- -Gerry Makaro aka Fraser_Bell on the forums, IRC, and mail at openSUSE.org
the best explanation I have seen.
and there is also "man zypper" and zypper dup --help zypper up --help
and google. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
On 31/05/17 12:44, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
... If you do a zypper dup, it will want to switch all packages back to the main repos when there is a higher version number, among other things, and it can also give you unexpected results if you have other repos enabled.
...
That is precisely why we actually *have* to use zypper dup on Leap considering the pace of change inside Leap-specific KDE repos.
Am Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2017, 08:19:49 EDT schrieb Vadym Krevs:
On 31/05/17 12:44, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
...
If you do a zypper dup, it will want to switch all packages back to the main repos when there is a higher version number, among other things, and it can also give you unexpected results if you have other repos enabled.
...
That is precisely why we actually *have* to use zypper dup on Leap considering the pace of change inside Leap-specific KDE repos.
and I am using zypper dup *all the time* on Leap 42.2 with no problems whatsoever... that is what repo priorities are for after all.
Cheers MH
tirsdag den 30. maj 2017 15.58.47 CEST skrev Patrick Shanahan:
- Vadym Krevs vkrevs@serena.com [05-30-17 12:02]:
On 16/05/17 10:07, Luca Beltrame wrote:
In data martedì 16 maggio 2017 11:01:46 CEST, Vadym Krevs ha scritto:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt5/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/ seems to contain a weird mixture of Qt 5.7.1 and Qt 5.8.
KDE:Qt5 has been rolled back to 5.7.1 due to 5.8 being unsuitable (and being de facto a throwaway release by the Qt Project). Please report which packages are still on 5.8 so we can adjust, if need be.
Broken again ...
# zypper -v dup -d Verbosity: 1 Warning: You are about to do a distribution upgrade with all enabled repositories. Make sure these repositories are compatible before you continue. See 'man zypper' for more information about this command.
you do realize you shouldn't be using "dup" for Leap. and it may be contributing to your continuing problems, re: "Broken again ..."
At the very least use 'zypper dup --from' to limit the vendor ping-pong going on between all kinds of packages from different repos/vendors.
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