[opensuse-kde] kde4 causing trouble
Hello SuSE users. Running 10.3 x86_64 Quite awhile back I did a one-click for kde4.01 It opened OK and kind of worked but 3.5.7 much more suited me. So I kind of ignored it for awhile. I noticed one thing though, when I did a kdesu on an application I got the kde4 version. Reported it on this list but nobody seemed to have an answer. Well, last night I decided to upgrade kde4 (all stable) So when I went to try it out it wouldn't open and I got this message "call to lnusertemp failed", Huh?? What is this? The upgrade broke what little value there was? No big deal right now. Don't really use it. Just wanted to see if it improved. Get to it eventually and do a little searching. Now I switch to kde3 and I find I cannot kdesu to any of my apps. (remember what I said in the 1st paragraph) I get this message,"There was an error loading the module Konqueror" and the same for Kwrite, Kate, and Firefox. This is bad. A screwed up kde4 is breaking my kde3 system. I went to /var/log/messages using MC and looked at the file. Nothing was readily apparent except these that I am not sure about. and may have nothing to do with this problem "sudo:bob:pam-authorization:conversation failed" and then there were a few other lines about gconfd that said gconf was read only and the GConf server was shutting down. Hope somebody can give me some direction on this. And BTW how does one go about uninstalling those hundreds of rpm's in kde4, Really don't want anything to do with it for now. Bob S --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Tirsdag den 29. April 2008 06:01:54 skrev Bob S:
Now I switch to kde3 and I find I cannot kdesu to any of my apps. (remember what I said in the 1st paragraph) I get this message,"There was an error loading the module Konqueror" and the same for Kwrite, Kate, and Firefox. This is bad. A screwed up kde4 is breaking my kde3 system.
You could remove kde4.0 again. Or use '/opt/kde3/bin/kdesu' to be absolutely sure that you get kde3 version of kdesu. Personally I'm primarily using kde3 on this machine, but with unstable/trunk also installed, and I don't have problems. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 29 April 2008, Bob S wrote:
And BTW how does one go about uninstalling those hundreds of rpm's in kde4, Really don't want anything to do with it for now.
zypper rm kde4-filesystem will remove all of kde4. Greetings, Dirk -- RPMLINT information under http://en.opensuse.org/Packaging/RpmLint --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 29 April 2008 06:01:54 am Dirk Mueller wrote:
On Tuesday 29 April 2008, Bob S wrote:
And BTW how does one go about uninstalling those hundreds of rpm's in kde4, Really don't want anything to do with it for now.
zypper rm kde4-filesystem
will remove all of kde4.
Thanks Dirk But that didn't work. Can't kdesu konqueror or other apps. Keep getting that message about an error loading the module. Did a whereis on kde4 and came up with files in /etc, /usr/lib64, and /usr/share. Any other suggestions? I did restart X. Bob S --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
* Bob S <911@sanctum.com> [04-29-08 22:25]:
But that didn't work. Can't kdesu konqueror or other apps. Keep getting that message about an error loading the module. Did a whereis on kde4 and came up with files in /etc, /usr/lib64, and /usr/share. Any other suggestions? I did restart X.
X ?? open a console: <alt><ctrl><f1..6> su: to root issue: init 3 issue: zipp..... no X -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 29 April 2008 11:31:43 pm Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Bob S <911@sanctum.com> [04-29-08 22:25]:
But that didn't work. Can't kdesu konqueror or other apps. Keep getting that message about an error loading the module. Did a whereis on kde4 and came up with files in /etc, /usr/lib64, and /usr/share. Any other suggestions? I did restart X.
X ??
open a console: <alt><ctrl><f1..6> su: to root issue: init 3 issue: zipp.....
Hi Patrick, issue zipp.......?
no X
I meant that after zipper was finished doing it's thing, from a console, as root, that I restarted X. Are you telling me something else I should do ?? Bob S --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 30 April 2008, Bob S wrote:
But that didn't work. Can't kdesu konqueror or other apps. Keep getting that message about an error loading the module.
could you please post the exact error message you get? also "which kdesu" and "rpm -q kdebase3-runtime" please Thanks, Dirk -- RPMLINT information under http://en.opensuse.org/Packaging/RpmLint --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 30 April 2008 04:58:03 am Dirk Mueller wrote:
On Wednesday 30 April 2008, Bob S wrote:
But that didn't work. Can't kdesu konqueror or other apps. Keep getting that message about an error loading the module.
could you please post the exact error message you get?
also "which kdesu" and "rpm -q kdebase3-runtime" please
Thanks for replying again Dirk. The message when invoking kdesu konqueror is: "There was an error loading the module Konqueror, The diagnostics is:" and nothing below that. This is the same message for Kate, Kwrite, Mozilla, etc. (substitute the name in the message and all appear at the same time) bob@Easystreet:~> which kdesu /opt/kde3/bin/kdesu bob@Easystreet:~> bob@Easystreet:~> rpm -q kdebase3-runtime package kdebase3-runtime is not installed bob@Easystreet:~> I did it for kdebase4-runtime also bob@Easystreet:~> rpm -q kdebase4-runtime kdebase4-runtime-4.0.3-13.1 bob@Easystreet:~> Bob S --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
* Bob S <911@sanctum.com> [04-30-08 21:50]:
The message when invoking kdesu konqueror is: "There was an error loading the module Konqueror, The diagnostics is:" and nothing below that. This is the same message for Kate, Kwrite, Mozilla, etc. (substitute the name in the message and all appear at the same time)
bob@Easystreet:~> which kdesu /opt/kde3/bin/kdesu bob@Easystreet:~>
bob@Easystreet:~> rpm -q kdebase3-runtime package kdebase3-runtime is not installed bob@Easystreet:~>
I did it for kdebase4-runtime also
bob@Easystreet:~> rpm -q kdebase4-runtime kdebase4-runtime-4.0.3-13.1 bob@Easystreet:~>
And, *now* you see the problem ?? and can effect a solution ?? -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 30 April 2008 10:01:57 pm Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Bob S <911@sanctum.com> [04-30-08 21:50]:
The message when invoking kdesu konqueror is: "There was an error loading the module Konqueror, The diagnostics is:" and nothing below that. This is the same message for Kate, Kwrite, Mozilla, etc. (substitute the name in the message and all appear at the same time)
bob@Easystreet:~> which kdesu /opt/kde3/bin/kdesu bob@Easystreet:~>
bob@Easystreet:~> rpm -q kdebase3-runtime package kdebase3-runtime is not installed bob@Easystreet:~>
I did it for kdebase4-runtime also
bob@Easystreet:~> rpm -q kdebase4-runtime kdebase4-runtime-4.0.3-13.1 bob@Easystreet:~>
And, *now* you see the problem ?? and can effect a solution ??
Hi Patrick, Yes, I can certainly see the problem. Effect a solution? Not so sure. Seems my KDE3 is right up to date. Guess I can download kdebase3-runtime and blow away the KDE4 one. Worries me though about the other KDE4 packages that didn't uninstall. Bob S --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 01 May 2008, Bob S wrote:
bob@Easystreet:~> which kdesu /opt/kde3/bin/kdesu bob@Easystreet:~>
bob@Easystreet:~> rpm -q kdebase3-runtime package kdebase3-runtime is not installed bob@Easystreet:~>
ah, the issue is that you're on 10.3 or older and you didn't add KDE:KDE3 buildservice respository for updating your KDE3 to a state where it doesn't conflict with KDE4. It is unfortunate that your package installer didn't warn you of the file conflicts. Those things are all fixed with 11.0, but for older distros you must upgrade to the newer kde3 packages provided via the buildservice repository otherwise installing kde4 will indeed shredder your kde3 installation due to kde4 overwriting files vital files of kde3. adding the KDE:KDE3 repository will repair things again. Greetings, Dirk -- RPMLINT information under http://en.opensuse.org/Packaging/RpmLint --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 01 May 2008 01:02:15 pm Dirk Mueller wrote:
On Thursday 01 May 2008, Bob S wrote:
bob@Easystreet:~> which kdesu /opt/kde3/bin/kdesu bob@Easystreet:~>
bob@Easystreet:~> rpm -q kdebase3-runtime package kdebase3-runtime is not installed bob@Easystreet:~>
ah, the issue is that you're on 10.3 or older and you didn't add KDE:KDE3 buildservice respository for updating your KDE3 to a state where it doesn't conflict with KDE4. It is unfortunate that your package installer didn't warn you of the file conflicts.
Those things are all fixed with 11.0, but for older distros you must upgrade to the newer kde3 packages provided via the buildservice repository otherwise installing kde4 will indeed shredder your kde3 installation due to kde4 overwriting files vital files of kde3.
adding the KDE:KDE3 repository will repair things again.
Hello Dirk, Is this the right repository? download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_10.3/ If so,Yast seems to be ignoring it. I also have a kde3 update repository. Bob S --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
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