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[opensuse-kde] Proposed changes to the KDE repositories
by Raymond Wooninck 12 Oct '13

12 Oct '13

Fellow openSUSE KDE users, I know that it hasn't been that long ago, that we changed the repository setup for the KDE projects on the openSUSE Build Service and you might wonder why we want to change again. The reason behind it is twofold. The first reason is that we would like to reduce the maintenance efforts for all KDE related packages and on the other hand we want to maximize the usability for our users to find updates and latest versions of their KDE desktop software and applications. The topic itself was also recently discussed on this mailinglist, with regards to missing application packages in the KDE:Release:411 repository. Currently we have the following repositories available: KDE:Distro:Factory : This repository is the development repo for the packages in openSUSE:Factory. Currently this contains applications and the KDE Desktop software. KDE:Unstable:SC: This repository contains frequent snapshots of the KDE Desktop software and a number of applications. KDE:Release:xy: These repository contains the latest minor release of the KDE Desktop software version X.Y. Some of the repositories contains also applications and system libraries required to build the KDE software KDE:Extra: Additional application software that is either KDE or Qt based. KDE:Unstable:Playground: git-snapshots, alpha's and/or beta versions of application software. KDE:UpdatedApps: This repository contains updated versions of application software that is build for older openSUSE releases As you might have noticed already, we have a lot of duplication when it comes to KDE applications. These are build in all kind of repositories and sometimes it is hard to find out which repository to use for which openSUSE or KDE desktop version. Therefore the openSUSE KDE community team would like to make the following proposal : KDE:Release:XY These repositories will contain the latest minor release of the KDE desktop version X.Y. When the repository is created, the build targets would be the current and previous openSUSE version. Maintenance updates for the current openSUSE version will be delivered from these repositories. The repository will only contain the KDE Desktop software and updates of system libraries if required to make it build. KDE:Extra: This repository will become our main application repository. All application software will be moved into this repository and it will be build for all supported KDE and openSUSE versions/combinations. This means that KDE:UpdatedApps is no longer required as that updated versions will be delivered through the KDE:Extra repository. Initially the target was to rename the repository to KDE:Apps, but keeping the old name would cause less confusion in our opinion. KDE:Unstable:Extra will be the repository where git snapshots, alphas and betas of application software can be found. This will replace KDE:Unstable:Playground and we will believe that KDE:Unstable:Apps is a more correct naming. Build targets would be the same as KDE:Extra KDE:Unstable:SC will be the repository where git snapshots of the upcoming KDE desktop version can be found. In this repository the openSUSE KDE Community team will also test different approaches, different KDE setup, etc. This repository will only be build against openSUSE:Factory. KDE:Distro:Factory will be the repository where the stable KDE Desktop release will be build for Factory. The stable release will be replaced by the Beta release for the upcoming release as soon as this one becomes available. This repository will be build only for openSUSE:Factory. As indicated this is just a proposal from our side and we would like to hear your feedback on it. If there are no major rejections against it, then we would like to start implementing it after openSUSE 13.1 RC has been released your openSUSE KDE Community team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] Proposed changes to the KDE repositories
by Raymond Wooninck 11 Oct '13

11 Oct '13

Hi Todd, I copied the mailinglist to it, as that I want to make sure that everybody can comment on the proposal On Thursday 10 October 2013 23:50:39 you wrote: > So there will be no way for anyone not in factory to even run betas, not to > mention git snapshots? I think that will greatly reduce the amount of > testing going on for KDE. Up to this point openSUSE has been one of the > best distros if you want to test unstable KDE SC releases, but these > changes will end that. As indicated this still is a proposal to move forward and open for discussion. If this was set in stone, then it would have been executed. It seems that people would like to keep KDF building for the current openSUSE version and I guess we can find the setup that the minor releases are only build for the current openSUSE version in the KRXY repo's and that we enable the builds in KDF as soon as we have the Beta for the upcoming KDE Release. > I would suggest that you build KDE:Unstable:SC for both factory and the > most recent openSUSE version at least. I would also put KDE SC releases in > KDE:Release:x as soon as it enters beta. In my opinion the KDE:Releases are targeting stable releases and not Beta's. > I would also suggest that, instead of KDE:Unstable:Extra, you call it > KDE:Extra:Unstable. I am fine with this proposal if other people also agree with it. For me the Unstable should be first to indicate that the software is not considered to be stable. Then we divide it in SC (KDE Desktop) and Extra (Apps). > I might also change KDE: Unstable:SC to KDE:Release:Unstable, > KDE:Release:Snapshot, or KDE:Release:git. See also above. I don't think that this would increase visibility or usability for the users. Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE mixer problem with stereo speakers on laptop
by Marc Chamberlin 10 Oct '13

10 Oct '13

Hi - I just installed openSuSE 12.3 x64 on an ASUS G75V series laptop and ran into a quirk with the KDE mixer (KDE Version 4.10.5 "release 1") that I suspect is a simple oops on somebodies part. This laptop does have two stereo speakers. When I bring up the KDE mixer dialog window, click on Settings -> Audio Setup, that brings up the Phonon - KDE Control Module dialog window. From here I select my sound card and set the profile to "Analog Stereo Output" Then if I click on the test buttons for the "Front Left" and "Front Right" the "Front Left" works fine but the "Front Right" also comes out on the Front Left speaker as well. BTW this DID work fine under openSuSE12.2 so I suspect something broke in this release. Now for a bit of further quirkiness.... For grins I also tried the "Analog Surround 4.0 Output" profile. This time both the Front Left and the Front Right test buttons produced sound on the correct speaker, but both the Rear Left and Rear Right test buttons produce sound on the Front Left speaker and at a much higher volume level than the sound produced by the Front Left and Front Right test buttons. I kinda suspect this is a simple problem to solve and somebody dropped the ball on testing this software code. Any ideas on how to get my KDE mixer to behave properly? Thanks in advance... Marc.. -- "The Truth is out there" - Spooky -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Team meeting planned for Tuesday 24 September 18:30 UTC
by Raymond Wooninck 02 Oct '13

02 Oct '13

Dear Listmates, It has already been quite some time that we had a team meeting and given the upcoming 13.1 release, I would like to discuss the current status of KDE 4.11 and to see what is still missing or what needs polishing for the openSUSE 13.1 release. My proposal would be to have the meeting on Tuesday 24 September at the usual time (18:30 UTC). The agenda for the meeting can be found here : https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:KDE_meeting#Next_Meeting:_2013-09-24_Time:… Feel free to add the topics that you would like to discuss during the meeting. Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Wanted kdm hacker !!
by Bruno Friedmann 02 Oct '13

02 Oct '13

We at openSUSE-artwork team would like to fix the bug we got with our new kdm fresh theme for 13.1 Call for hack Somewhere in https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kde-workspace/repository/revisions/ma… We would like to fix the following case. After a fresh install normally user create one account. The kdm theme show the userlist but as there's no previous users, it can be preselected. So if someone is able to provide us a patch, which could fix the lack of the feature "pre-select the item 0 of userlist if non previously logged user exist" I will send him a Geeko Plush and I will be his debtor for one or two beer. Bug ref : https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=841719 Patch welcome in any form !!! :-) -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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