August 2009 - openSUSE KDE - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-kde] Membership Request
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 24 Aug '09

24 Aug '09

Hello Mates, i would like to request an membership in opensuse-kde. Most of my Time i'm building Packages (some are in KDE:KDE4:Community). But Will told me, that you are happy for new workers. So what can i do? Maybe:: Repository Maintaining or what you want. cu Sascha -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Ambassador openSUSE Marketing Team openSUSE Build Service Web: http://saschamanns.gulli.to Project-Blog: http://lizards.opensuse.org/author/saigkill Private-Blog: http://saschasbacktrace.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Greeter text (+translations)
by Lubos Lunak 24 Aug '09

24 Aug '09

Hello, Will is sick and will be for at least a week. One of his AIs from the last meeting is redoing of the desktop greeter [1]. The conclusion there was to make the greeter include only basic text and refer people to a folder in Documents for further details. And, because of translation freeze, I'd like to sort this out as soon as possible. There are two problems: 1) the new texts, 2) how do we translate it (since the later we do 1 the more likely we have to do 2 ourselves). For the greeter, I would probably just replace the current third section about build service with one about KDE. I don't see big practical usefulness in having the build service mentioned there, but KDE itself seems to be lacking. So I would make the third section be " KDE KDE is an international technology team that creates Free Software for desktop and portable computing. To find out more about KDE in openSUSE visit the [KDE wiki page][2]. You can also view [introduction to KDE4][3] and [release notes for KDE][4] for this openSUSE version. " That would mean there would be actually nothing in Documents, although I would add an icon to the desktop so that people can actually read the greeter later (they'll first dismiss it without reading anyway). Note that I am talking about the non-Factory greeter that looks like http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/download/greeter.jpg , not the one you may see now if you install some 11.2 milestone, which talks about FATE, translating and whatnot. We possibly should include this development information somehow too, but I don't quite see how. That would mean we need people to write and translate [4]. Since it seems to me we handled [3] for 11.1 quite well, we can probably do this too. Other options, proposals, comments, fixes? One of the options is of course to leave the greeter as it is for 11.2; if there will be no comments, I will just stay with that. [1] http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Meetings/20090806#Revisision_of_greeter_text.2C_… [2] http://en.opensuse.org/KDE [3] http://help.opensuse.org/kde4 [4] something newly created, probably at help.opensuse.org too -- Lubos Lunak KDE developer -------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. e-mail: l.lunak(a)suse.cz , l.lunak(a)kde.org Lihovarska 1060/12 tel: +420 284 084 672 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Firefox Oxygen theme
by Wolfgang Rosenauer 24 Aug '09

24 Aug '09

Hi, we recently added the Oxygen theme package for Firefox to Factory. Now today I've tested Factory/KDE using a recent livecd iso and found that there isn't a big difference between the Firefox default and the Oxygen theme. There are a few minor differences but most of the UI looks the same for me. The background is that Firefox using the default theme requests the icons from the running theme. (That's a Gtk feature and I don't know how it interacts with KDE themes but it apparently does.) Therefore I filed https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530837 to evaluate if the theme package is needed at all. We would again save a bit of space on the live CD and given the fact that the oxygen theme is not used automatically(1) I'm not sure if it is really useful. What do you think? (1) we could patch Firefox to check if running under KDE and choose the Oxygen theme for new profiles but that's not really a nice solution I think as it doesn't make a difference if the user actually uses Oxygen but would just check on KDE as desktop. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Bugzilla
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 23 Aug '09

23 Aug '09

Hello Mates, can anyone add me in Bugzilla for the Package "amaroK"? -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Ambassador openSUSE Marketing Team openSUSE Build Service Web: http://saschamanns.gulli.to Project-Blog: http://lizards.opensuse.org/author/saigkill Private-Blog: http://saschasbacktrace.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] openSUSE KDE Team Meeting - Thursday 6th August, 16:00 UTC
by Lubos Lunak 23 Aug '09

23 Aug '09

The next openSUSE KDE Team meeting will be held tomorrow, Thursday 6th August, at 16:00 UTC. The current list of scheduled topics is: * easing KDE4 one-click installs feature request added to openfate. Is anything missing? (AI was: file new .ymp and do fate request) * dropping remaining poorly maintained KDE3 apps from Factory (http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Community/kde3_eval and KDE:KDE3) * default sound backend (bug #440786) * Default Plasma containment (http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2009-07/msg00113.html) * Revisision of greeter text, writing of new KDE4 introduction * old action items * status report * Q&A, misc Further items are welcome; please add them http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Meetings Please use http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=6&month=8&year=200… to get the time of the meeting in your time zone. The meeting will happen in #opensuse-kde IRC channel on irc.freenode.net You are welcome to join and participate! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Status of KDE:Qt46
by Carlos Goncalves 23 Aug '09

23 Aug '09

Hi, Browsing KDE:Qt46 I found some packages linked to wrong projects, but correct me if I'm wrong. - libqt4-jambi links to KDE:Qt. * Result: libqt4-jambi requiring Qt 4.5 instead of 4.6. * Suggestion: currently there is no 4.6 snapshot upstream, so delete it? - python-qt4 and python-sip link to openSUSE:Factory (Qt 4.5). * Result: python-{qt4,sip} requiring Qt 4.5 instead of 4.6. * Suggestion: currently there is no 4.6 snapshot upstream, so delete it? - libqt4-devel-doc-data and libQtWebKit-devel were linked to KDE:Qt. Beineri changed them to KDE:Qt46. Moreover, libqt4 doesn't build - can't apply patch 0180-window-role.diff. -- Regards, Carlos Goncalves -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] openSUSE KDE meeting 20090820
by Lubos Lunak 20 Aug '09

20 Aug '09

See http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Meetings/ for futher details. == Old Action Items == * add packaging guideline for kde4 packages (wstephenson) ** started * figure out license repo dialogs and other ways how to notify the users about our bug reports policy (wstephenson) ** moved to bug #532814 * put together a howto for cross distribution packaging of kde applications (bittin`, llunak, mrdocs) ** still work in progress, more long-term work * figure out what all needs to be done for translations for 11.2 (llunak) ** hopefully handled all * add missing multimedia key assignments to bug #524734 (everyone) ** nothing added there ** if something shows up, will be added there, to be closed with 11.2 * talk to docu and PM about artwork reqts (wstephenson) ** work in progress ** deadline is milestone7 * propose less scary conflict resolution (cb400f) ** fate #307255 * send a list with suggestions about removing KDE3 apps from Factory to the mailing list (llunak) ** done, see mailing list * ask the list about phonon-xine vs. phonon-gstreamer as default for 11.2 (cb400f) ** done, see mailing list ** conclusion is to default to Xine ** Milestone6 should already default to Xine * default containment to default (Beineri) ** done * greeter and associated text (wstephenson) ** not done ** there was a mail sent to the mailing list, but no feedback at all * start doc collection project (wstephenson) ** in progress ** people are welcome to extend http://help.opensuse.org/kde4/ and add new pages * ensure libssh version update to 0.3.2 (llunak) ** done * ensure packaging of the new kio_sftp (tittiatcoke) ** done * breadcrumb setting (Beineri) ** done * tell Coolo about the list of community repositories (llunak) ** done (including the change) * patch out plasma pixmapcache bug (wstephenson) ** solved by kdelibs4 branch diff update == Status Report == * new applications on KDE Live-CD * Xine is default Phonon backend, PulseAudio is removed from the KDE pattern (see topic below) * Small Plasma improvements * Firefox integration improves == What do to with kdebase3-{apps,session,workspace} == * kdebase3.spec will be modified not to build unwanted parts in Factory, will be still built for KDE:KDE3 * AI: drop kdebase3-session and dropping/excluding -apps/-workspace (Beineri) == Not Installing 'Desktop Effects' (i.e. Compiz) Pattern By Default == * KDE never defaults to Compiz, with KWin being a better default for most KDE users * those who want Compiz can could still install and use it * the size of packages installed by the pattern is small, and the name 'Desktop Effects' could suggest that when it is not enabled for KDE, KDE does not have desktop effects * there's already string freeze * so this will not be done, possibly to be reconsidered for next release again == MozillaFirefox-theme-oxygen Probably Not Needed? See Bug #530837 == * there are currently no space problems, so we can keep it == Mozilla Javascript Engine For Konqueror == * Firefox is the default in 11.2 * this is outside the scope of openSUSE == Firefox Default Mail Client == * Firefox defaults to evolution instead of kmail. It should at least offer kmail as an app for the mail action. * bugs #494376, #527417 * there appears to be a generic problem with having kde-specific defaults in firefox * AI: investigate how to make Firefox use defaults suitable for KDE (llunak) == Action Items == * add packaging guideline for kde4 packages (wstephenson) * talk to docu and PM about artwork reqts (wstephenson) * greeter and associated text (wstephenson) * drop kdebase3-session and dropping/excluding -apps/-workspace (Beineri) * investigate how to make Firefox use defaults suitable for KDE (llunak) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] plasmoid-devicemanager
by Will Stephenson 20 Aug '09

20 Aug '09

I just got round to testing this on 11.1, and it hangs plasma-desktop immediately, spinning in the event loop. It runs on trunk but the layout of the popup is wrong (tiny popup) and it has no config UI (but lots of hidden settings in the code. Am I testing the wrong thing or is this really flaky code? Will -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] alternative for kdirstat
by Tony 20 Aug '09

20 Aug '09

When I used KDE 3.5 there was a program called kdirstat that I used to get a good picture of where disk space is being used at. Can someone recommend a similar replacement that is for KDE 4.x ? Thanks in advance, Tony -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] openSUSE KDE Team Meeting - Thursday 20th August, 16:00 UTC
by Lubos Lunak 20 Aug '09

20 Aug '09

The next openSUSE KDE Team meeting will be held tomorrow, Thursday 20th August, at 16:00 UTC. The current list of scheduled topics is: * Disable PulseAudio by default for KDE? * What do to with kdebase3-{apps,session,workspace}? * Not installing 'Desktop Effects' (i.e. Compiz) pattern by default * old action items * status report * Q&A, misc Further items are welcome; please add them http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Meetings Please use http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=20&month=8&year=20… to get the time of the meeting in your time zone. The meeting will happen in #opensuse-kde IRC channel on irc.freenode.net You are welcome to join and participate! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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