[opensuse-kde3] problems without HAL
I have just installed OpenSUSE 12.3, and tried the configuration without HAL. There are some problems: 1. Kpowersave does not work. What applet should I use instead? I have tried xfce4-power-manager, but it fails redefine a power button (I usually redefine it as "hibernate"), and cannot start kscreensaver before going to sleep. Maybe there is something kdeish or qtish? 2. KDE3 does not mount media automatically. They are only mounted after demand from a program (e.g. krusader). 3. Krusader (KDE3) does not open a DVD disk. When it is not mounted, krusader mounts it, but does not change the directory. When it has been already mounted (by the first attempt to open), it tries to mount it again, fails, give the message that it has been already mounted, and do nothing (do not change the directory to DVD). The USB stick is treated correctly. 4. The last difficulty does not related with HAL, but by the way. Kde3-kile has some spurious dependency on "dviutils", which prevents its installation. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Sunday 17 March 2013 09:29:20 Michael Lashkevich wrote:
I have just installed OpenSUSE 12.3, and tried the configuration without HAL. There are some problems:
1. Kpowersave does not work. What applet should I use instead? I have tried xfce4-power-manager, but it fails redefine a power button (I usually redefine it as "hibernate"), and cannot start kscreensaver before going to sleep. Maybe there is something kdeish or qtish?
kpowersave needs hal.
2. KDE3 does not mount media automatically. They are only mounted after demand from a program (e.g. krusader).
This depends on whether you have udisks-glue package installed. With udisks-glue it should mount authomatically.
3. Krusader (KDE3) does not open a DVD disk. When it is not mounted, krusader mounts it, but does not change the directory. When it has been already mounted (by the first attempt to open), it tries to mount it again, fails, give the message that it has been already mounted, and do nothing (do not change the directory to DVD). The USB stick is treated correctly.
How does Konqueror behave?
4. The last difficulty does not related with HAL, but by the way. Kde3-kile has some spurious dependency on "dviutils", which prevents its installation.
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On 03/17/13 01:29, Michael Lashkevich wrote:
I have just installed OpenSUSE 12.3, and tried the configuration without HAL. There are some problems:
I wrote this install-guide up for 3.5 on 12.3 (also write ups on each 11.x and 12.x): http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/how-faq-forums/un... You already have installed 3.5 so, at a minimum you can use the procedure to check: 1. That all base packages have been installed (udisks-glue is included in base install) 2. Tip #1 and 2 for two known "gotchas". I don't believe HAL libraries have been provided for 3.5 since 12.1. I'm using 12.3/3.5 100% of the time now, and no impactful problems yet. I didn't use HAl in 12.2, either. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Erik Sorenson <eriksorenson@amtelecom.net> wrote:
I wrote this install-guide up for 3.5 on 12.3 (also write ups on each 11.x and 12.x): I don't believe HAL libraries have been provided for 3.5 since 12.1. I'm using 12.3/3.5 100% of the time now, and no impactful problems yet. I didn't use HAl in 12.2, either.
I can't get KPowersave to work on 12.3. I've tried your guide & another post about HAL stuff, but no luck. HAL is enabled: "Checking for service HAL daemon unused haldaemon.service - LSB: HAL is a daemon for managing information about the hardware on the system Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/haldaemon) Active: active (exited) since Sun, 2013-03-24 22:55:28 EDT; 40s ago Process: 5805 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/haldaemon start (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) CGroup: name=systemd:/system/haldaemon.service Mar 24 22:55:28 linux-jy34.site systemd[1]: Starting LSB: HAL is a daemon for managing information about the hardware on th...tem... Mar 24 22:55:28 linux-jy34.site haldaemon[5805]: chown: invalid user: 'haldaemon:haldaemon' Mar 24 22:55:28 linux-jy34.site haldaemon[5805]: Starting HAL daemon..done Mar 24 22:55:28 linux-jy34.site systemd[1]: Started LSB: HAL is a daemon for managing information about the hardware on the system." YaST shows HAL installed. So I'm not sure what else I need to do. Any ideas? I'm running 12.3/KDE3 on a Thinkpad T60p. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
I had the same problem on 12.2. If you pay attention the output of hald is "Active: active (exited)" so it's not running. A few weeks ago I had sent an e-mail to this list and then I found the solution in a opensuse forun. I copy-past the solution here: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/prin... For some reason the folder /etc/hal was empty. What I had to do was to create a link to /usr/share/hal/: cd /etc/hal ln -s /usr/share/hal/* ./ /etc/init.d/haldaemon stop /etc/init.d/haldaemon start Now, hald is running and so is kpowersave! I hope that this helps! Gianluca On Sun, 24 Mar 2013, Larry Stotler wrote:
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Erik Sorenson <eriksorenson@amtelecom.net> wrote:
I wrote this install-guide up for 3.5 on 12.3 (also write ups on each 11.x and 12.x): I don't believe HAL libraries have been provided for 3.5 since 12.1. I'm using 12.3/3.5 100% of the time now, and no impactful problems yet. I didn't use HAl in 12.2, either.
I can't get KPowersave to work on 12.3. I've tried your guide & another post about HAL stuff, but no luck. HAL is enabled:
"Checking for service HAL daemon unused haldaemon.service - LSB: HAL is a daemon for managing information about the hardware on the system Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/haldaemon) Active: active (exited) since Sun, 2013-03-24 22:55:28 EDT; 40s ago Process: 5805 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/haldaemon start (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) CGroup: name=systemd:/system/haldaemon.service
Mar 24 22:55:28 linux-jy34.site systemd[1]: Starting LSB: HAL is a daemon for managing information about the hardware on th...tem... Mar 24 22:55:28 linux-jy34.site haldaemon[5805]: chown: invalid user: 'haldaemon:haldaemon' Mar 24 22:55:28 linux-jy34.site haldaemon[5805]: Starting HAL daemon..done Mar 24 22:55:28 linux-jy34.site systemd[1]: Started LSB: HAL is a daemon for managing information about the hardware on the system."
YaST shows HAL installed. So I'm not sure what else I need to do. Any ideas?
I'm running 12.3/KDE3 on a Thinkpad T60p. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
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On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 2:50 AM, Gianluca Interlandi <gianluca@u.washington.edu> wrote:
I had the same problem on 12.2. If you pay attention the output of hald is "Active: active (exited)" so it's not running. A few weeks ago I had sent an e-mail to this list and then I found the solution in a opensuse forun. I copy-past the solution here:
http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/prin...
For some reason the folder /etc/hal was empty. What I had to do was to create a link to /usr/share/hal/:
cd /etc/hal ln -s /usr/share/hal/* ./
/etc/init.d/haldaemon stop /etc/init.d/haldaemon start
Now, hald is running and so is kpowersave!
Nope. Same issue. Says Active:exited. kpowersave is still greyed out. I made sure that DBus is installed as well. If we are gonna be saying KDE3 is supported we need to make sure that this works out of the box........ Any ideas? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
What is the output of `ls /etc/hal` ? Gianluca On Mon, 25 Mar 2013, Larry Stotler wrote:
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 2:50 AM, Gianluca Interlandi <gianluca@u.washington.edu> wrote:
I had the same problem on 12.2. If you pay attention the output of hald is "Active: active (exited)" so it's not running. A few weeks ago I had sent an e-mail to this list and then I found the solution in a opensuse forun. I copy-past the solution here:
http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/prin...
For some reason the folder /etc/hal was empty. What I had to do was to create a link to /usr/share/hal/:
cd /etc/hal ln -s /usr/share/hal/* ./
/etc/init.d/haldaemon stop /etc/init.d/haldaemon start
Now, hald is running and so is kpowersave!
Nope. Same issue. Says Active:exited. kpowersave is still greyed out. I made sure that DBus is installed as well.
If we are gonna be saying KDE3 is supported we need to make sure that this works out of the box........
Any ideas? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
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On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Gianluca Interlandi <gianluca@u.washington.edu> wrote:
What is the output of `ls /etc/hal` ?
ls /etc/hal/ fdi ls -R /etc/hal/fdi /etc/hal/fdi: fdi.dtd information policy preprobe /etc/hal/fdi/information: 10freedesktop 20thirdparty /etc/hal/fdi/information/10freedesktop: 10-battery.fdi 10-sony-bluetooth-switch.fdi 20-video-quirk-pm-asus.fdi 30-keymap-acer.fdi 10-camera-ptp.fdi 10-thinkpad-rfkill-switch-bluetooth.fdi 20-video-quirk-pm-dell.fdi 30-keymap-compaq.fdi 10-cd-dvd-burner.fdi 10-usb-card-readers.fdi 20-video-quirk-pm-fujitsu.fdi 30-keymap-dell.fdi 10-dell-rfkill-switch-bluetooth.fdi 10-usbcsr-mice.fdi 20-video-quirk-pm-hp.fdi 30-keymap-hp.fdi 10-dell-rfkill-switch-wlan.fdi 10-usb-music-players.fdi 20-video-quirk-pm-ibm.fdi 30-keymap-lenovo.fdi 10-dell-rfkill-switch-wwan.fdi 10-usb-obex.fdi 20-video-quirk-pm-lenovo.fdi 30-keymap-misc.fdi 10-ipw-rfkill-switch.fdi 10-usb-pda.fdi 20-video-quirk-pm-misc.fdi 30-keymap-module-sony-laptop.fdi 10-laptop-panel-hardware.fdi 10-usb-zip-drives.fdi 20-video-quirk-pm-samsung.fdi 30-keymap-module-thinkpad-acpi.fdi 10-modem.fdi 20-video-quirk-pm-acer.fdi 20-video-quirk-pm-sony.fdi 10-scanner.fdi 20-video-quirk-pm-apple.fdi 20-video-quirk-pm-toshiba.fdi /etc/hal/fdi/information/20thirdparty: /etc/hal/fdi/policy: 10osvendor /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor: 10-cpufreq.fdi 10-imac-backlight.fdi 10-laptop-panel-mgmt-policy.fdi 10-power-mgmt-policy.fdi 10-tabletPCs.fdi 15-storage-luks.fdi 21-storage-ntfs-3g.fdi 10-dockstation.fdi 10-input-policy.fdi 10-leds.fdi 10-rfkill-switch.fdi 10-x11-input.fdi 20-storage-methods.fdi 30-wol.fdi /etc/hal/fdi/preprobe: 10osvendor 20thirdparty /etc/hal/fdi/preprobe/10osvendor: 10-ide-drives.fdi 20-broken-usb-sticks.fdi /etc/hal/fdi/preprobe/20thirdparty: -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
There is a problem somewhere with HAL. You can try posting on the openSUSE forums, just mentioning HAL (not KDE 3.5), since HAL is sometimes needed also for other applications not just KDE 3.5. In the mean time, you can still hibernate or suspend your computer by entering "powersave" or "powersave -U" on the commandline. There is also an alternative to kpowersave that uses upowerd instead of HAL, batti-gtk: http://code.google.com/p/batti-gtk/ It's fun but not all the functionality of kpowersave. The problem is with HAL and not with KDE 3.5, so maybe you can find the answer on a HAL-related forum? But, sorry, I'm just a user like you, not a developer, so don't take my word. Good luck! Gianluca On Mon, 25 Mar 2013, Larry Stotler wrote:
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Gianluca Interlandi <gianluca@u.washington.edu> wrote:
What is the output of `ls /etc/hal` ?
ls /etc/hal/ fdi
ls -R /etc/hal/fdi /etc/hal/fdi: fdi.dtd information policy preprobe
/etc/hal/fdi/information: 10freedesktop 20thirdparty
/etc/hal/fdi/information/10freedesktop: 10-battery.fdi 10-sony-bluetooth-switch.fdi 20-video-quirk-pm-asus.fdi 30-keymap-acer.fdi 10-camera-ptp.fdi 10-thinkpad-rfkill-switch-bluetooth.fdi 20-video-quirk-pm-dell.fdi 30-keymap-compaq.fdi 10-cd-dvd-burner.fdi 10-usb-card-readers.fdi 20-video-quirk-pm-fujitsu.fdi 30-keymap-dell.fdi 10-dell-rfkill-switch-bluetooth.fdi 10-usbcsr-mice.fdi 20-video-quirk-pm-hp.fdi 30-keymap-hp.fdi 10-dell-rfkill-switch-wlan.fdi 10-usb-music-players.fdi 20-video-quirk-pm-ibm.fdi 30-keymap-lenovo.fdi 10-dell-rfkill-switch-wwan.fdi 10-usb-obex.fdi 20-video-quirk-pm-lenovo.fdi 30-keymap-misc.fdi 10-ipw-rfkill-switch.fdi 10-usb-pda.fdi 20-video-quirk-pm-misc.fdi 30-keymap-module-sony-laptop.fdi 10-laptop-panel-hardware.fdi 10-usb-zip-drives.fdi 20-video-quirk-pm-samsung.fdi 30-keymap-module-thinkpad-acpi.fdi 10-modem.fdi 20-video-quirk-pm-acer.fdi 20-video-quirk-pm-sony.fdi 10-scanner.fdi 20-video-quirk-pm-apple.fdi 20-video-quirk-pm-toshiba.fdi
/etc/hal/fdi/information/20thirdparty:
/etc/hal/fdi/policy: 10osvendor
/etc/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor: 10-cpufreq.fdi 10-imac-backlight.fdi 10-laptop-panel-mgmt-policy.fdi 10-power-mgmt-policy.fdi 10-tabletPCs.fdi 15-storage-luks.fdi 21-storage-ntfs-3g.fdi 10-dockstation.fdi 10-input-policy.fdi 10-leds.fdi 10-rfkill-switch.fdi 10-x11-input.fdi 20-storage-methods.fdi 30-wol.fdi
/etc/hal/fdi/preprobe: 10osvendor 20thirdparty
/etc/hal/fdi/preprobe/10osvendor: 10-ide-drives.fdi 20-broken-usb-sticks.fdi
/etc/hal/fdi/preprobe/20thirdparty: -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
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On Tuesday 26 March 2013 00:53:41 Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
There is a problem somewhere with HAL. You can try posting on the openSUSE forums, just mentioning HAL (not KDE 3.5), since HAL is sometimes needed also for other applications not just KDE 3.5.
In the mean time, you can still hibernate or suspend your computer by entering "powersave" or "powersave -U" on the commandline.
HAL has nothing to do with suspend and hibernate. In current KDE3 the both are called via D-Bus. If that does not work in 12.3, it is another bug. I suggest you to ask Serghei Amelian because it is him who wrote those D-Bus calls. In 12.2 all works well at least (without any HAL installed).
There is also an alternative to kpowersave that uses upowerd instead of HAL, batti-gtk:
http://code.google.com/p/batti-gtk/
It's fun but not all the functionality of kpowersave.
There is also a pre-HAL version of kpowersave. I will investigate whether I can package it if HAL still will not work.
The problem is with HAL and not with KDE 3.5, so maybe you can find the answer on a HAL-related forum? But, sorry, I'm just a user like you, not a developer, so don't take my word. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
In the mean time, you can still hibernate or suspend your computer by entering "powersave" or "powersave -U" on the commandline.
HAL has nothing to do with suspend and hibernate.
That's why I'm saying that you can still suspend or hibernate through the command line (i.e., without kpowersave). Gianluca
There is also an alternative to kpowersave that uses upowerd instead of HAL, batti-gtk:
http://code.google.com/p/batti-gtk/
It's fun but not all the functionality of kpowersave.
There is also a pre-HAL version of kpowersave. I will investigate whether I can package it if HAL still will not work.
The problem is with HAL and not with KDE 3.5, so maybe you can find the answer on a HAL-related forum? But, sorry, I'm just a user like you, not a developer, so don't take my word. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
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On Monday 25 March 2013 21:34:53 Larry Stotler wrote:
http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/prin...
For some reason the folder /etc/hal was empty. What I had to do was to create a link to /usr/share/hal/:
cd /etc/hal ln -s /usr/share/hal/* ./
/etc/init.d/haldaemon stop /etc/init.d/haldaemon start
Now, hald is running and so is kpowersave!
Nope. Same issue. Says Active:exited. kpowersave is still greyed out. I made sure that DBus is installed as well.
If we are gonna be saying KDE3 is supported we need to make sure that this works out of the box........
Any ideas?
hal is not supported. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013, Larry Stotler wrote:
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Ilya Chernykh <anixxsus@gmail.com> wrote:
hal is not supported.
So there is no HAL support as of 12.3 at all?
Or, in other words, is this the slow, tormentuous death of KDE 3.5 as its underlying components lose support? What about the trinity project: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/ I see that it is supported in OpenSUSE 12.2 but don't know if it is in any openSUSE repository. But, if HAL is not supported, then I expect the same issue there, unless they have an alternative. I wished KDE 3.5 lived longer. Gianluca ----------------------------------------------------- Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca@u.washington.edu +1 (206) 685 4435 http://artemide.bioeng.washington.edu/ Research Scientist at the Department of Bioengineering at the University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A. ----------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 26 March 2013 01:04:08 Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Ilya Chernykh <anixxsus@gmail.com> wrote:
hal is not supported.
So there is no HAL support as of 12.3 at all?
Or, in other words, is this the slow, tormentuous death of KDE 3.5 as its underlying components lose support?
kpowersave is not the core component of kde3.
What about the trinity project:
Trinity cannot work without hal at all. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On 2013-03-26 03:03 (GMT+0400) Ilya Chernykh composed:
Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
Ilya Chernykh wrote:
hal is not supported.
So there is no HAL support as of 12.3 at all?
Or, in other words, is this the slow, tormentuous death of KDE 3.5 as its underlying components lose support?
kpowersave is not the core component of kde3.
What about the trinity project:
Trinity cannot work without hal at all.
"At all" is like forever, impossible, absolutely, never, always, etc. You're saying even on desktops not requiring any power saving features that using Trinity on a Hal-free (12.3) system would be impossible? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
But, before we dump HAL entirely, could it be that there is a quick fix for its problems? For example, on 12.2 all I had to do was create a symbolic link: ln -s /usr/share/hal/* /etc/hal/ This is not the problem on 12.3, but maybe it's also something small like that. Just my 2c. I don't have 12.3 installed anywhere, but there should be a way to debug it: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/hal http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/HalTraces Larry, what is the output of hald --daemon=yes --verbose=yes --use-syslog Gianluca On Mon, 25 Mar 2013, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2013-03-26 03:03 (GMT+0400) Ilya Chernykh composed:
Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
Ilya Chernykh wrote:
hal is not supported.
So there is no HAL support as of 12.3 at all?
Or, in other words, is this the slow, tormentuous death of KDE 3.5 as its underlying components lose support?
kpowersave is not the core component of kde3.
What about the trinity project:
Trinity cannot work without hal at all.
"At all" is like forever, impossible, absolutely, never, always, etc. You're saying even on desktops not requiring any power saving features that using Trinity on a Hal-free (12.3) system would be impossible? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
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kpowersave is not the core component of kde3.
I understand. But isn't there a danger that KDE3 might start losing more and more components because the underlying support is lost? Of course, I hope that this never happens, but it would be a pity. Gianluca ----------------------------------------------------- Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca@u.washington.edu +1 (206) 685 4435 http://artemide.bioeng.washington.edu/ Research Scientist at the Department of Bioengineering at the University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A. ----------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
If we are gonna be saying KDE3 is supported we need to make sure that this works out of the box........
Any ideas?
hal is not supported.
Then, somebody would have to rewrite kpowersave to use upowerd instead of HAL ... What is the kpowersave alternative in KDE4 and can it be used in KDE 3.5? Gianluca ----------------------------------------------------- Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca@u.washington.edu +1 (206) 685 4435 http://artemide.bioeng.washington.edu/ Research Scientist at the Department of Bioengineering at the University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A. ----------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/25/2013 10:56 PM, Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
If we are gonna be saying KDE3 is supported we need to make sure that this works out of the box........
Any ideas?
hal is not supported.
Then, somebody would have to rewrite kpowersave to use upowerd instead of HAL ...
Actually I started to write a replacement some time ago.
What is the kpowersave alternative in KDE4 and can it be used in KDE 3.5?
Gianluca
-- Serghei
On Tuesday 26 March 2013 01:22:15 Serghei Amelian wrote:
Then, somebody would have to rewrite kpowersave to use upowerd instead of HAL ...
Actually I started to write a replacement some time ago.
Serghei, where can I find the current version of your repository? Possibly we should aim at it for openSUSE 13.1 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/26/2013 01:12 AM, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
On Tuesday 26 March 2013 01:22:15 Serghei Amelian wrote:
Then, somebody would have to rewrite kpowersave to use upowerd instead of HAL ...
Actually I started to write a replacement some time ago.
Serghei, where can I find the current version of your repository?
Possibly we should aim at it for openSUSE 13.1
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On Tuesday 26 March 2013 01:22:15 Serghei Amelian wrote:
Actually I started to write a replacement some time ago.
Is it working? Where is it located? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/26/2013 05:01 AM, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
On Tuesday 26 March 2013 01:22:15 Serghei Amelian wrote:
Actually I started to write a replacement some time ago.
Is it working? Where is it located?
Is not complete yet, at this moment it shows AC/battery status, can suspend the machine and can change brightness of display. http://sourceforge.net/p/kde3/kdebase/ci/342aa83db6f3a8574944dfb99eb151f7ffc... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 26 March 2013 13:18:41 Serghei Amelian wrote:
Actually I started to write a replacement some time ago.
Is it working? Where is it located?
Is not complete yet, at this moment it shows AC/battery status, can suspend the machine and can change brightness of display.
http://sourceforge.net/p/kde3/kdebase/ci/342aa83db6f3a8574944dfb99eb151f7ffc...
Well it seems it is not independent of kdebase. Difficult to build it separately... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
Well it seems it is not independent of kdebase. Difficult to build it separately...
Just out of curiosity, why do you need to build it separately? If you want to use kpowersave, you probably already have kdebase installed in your system. Gianluca -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 26 March 2013 21:27:51 Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
Well it seems it is not independent of kdebase. Difficult to build it separately...
Just out of curiosity, why do you need to build it separately? If you want to use kpowersave, you probably already have kdebase installed in your system.
To build it I would have to switch to Serghei's kde3 fork. I am not sure for how long time he is going to spport it and switch back will be difficult. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
Larry, In your output, I see:
Mar 24 22:55:28 linux-jy34.site haldaemon[5805]: chown: invalid user: 'haldaemon:haldaemon'
Have you discovered if this is the problem? Have you tried to add your user name to the "haldaemon" group? In my /etc/passwd on 11.3 I have an entry for the haldaemon group: haldaemon:x:108:112:User for haldaemon:/var/run/hald:/bin/false Maybe, this is missing in your installation and you have to create it manually. Gianluca
Mar 24 22:55:28 linux-jy34.site haldaemon[5805]: Starting HAL daemon..done Mar 24 22:55:28 linux-jy34.site systemd[1]: Started LSB: HAL is a daemon for managing information about the hardware on the system."
YaST shows HAL installed. So I'm not sure what else I need to do. Any ideas?
I'm running 12.3/KDE3 on a Thinkpad T60p. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
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