[opensuse-kde3] KDE3 on 12.1 Beta: Some Info
For those interested, these are the basic modules I installed to get KDE3 up and running in 12.1 M3, M5, and (with great effort) Beta(1). The general process I used to install is covered here: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/how-faq-forums/un...
From Regular openSuse Repos: desktop-data-openSUSE desktop-data-openSUSE-extra
From the KDE3 Repo: HAL (also, set haldaemon on for init 2, 3, 5 in Yast>System Services) kde3-gtk-qt-engine kde3-k3b (CD/DVD burner, optional, my choice) kde3-kio_sysinfo (not available for 12.1 & onwards) kde3-knemo (network activity icons in systray, optional, my choice) kdeaddons3-konqueror kdeadmin3 kdeartwork3 kdeartwork3-kscreensaver kdeartwork3-sound kdebase3 (also need 32bit when selecting from x64 choices?) kdebase3-SuSE kdebase3-apps kdebase3-kdm (REALLY important) kdebase3-ksysguardd kdebase3-session kdebindings3 kdegames3 kdegraphics3 kdemultimedia3 kdemultimedia3-CD kdemultimedia3-mixer (this gives you your volume control applet!) kdenetwork3 kdepim3 (this gives you kmail) kdeutils3
If you have wireless, use a different mail client, or want to include your personal favourites, etc., you will want to select additional modules to install. Repos (bare minimum) required: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.1/repo/non-oss/ http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.1/repo/oss/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_Factory/ http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_Factory/ (for later addition) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 11 October 2011 07:20:34 Erik Sorenson wrote:
For those interested, these are the basic modules I installed to get KDE3 up and running in 12.1 M3, M5, and (with great effort) Beta(1).
Can you please do some testing on it? - First try to install KDE3 completely from the main repo without enabling KDE:KDE3 repository, also without hal etc. Check if it works well without hal (i.e. automounting, CD burning etc). - Add KDE:KDE3 and check if Amarok and Digikam work well and stable (Kirill reported crashes in these applications) - Also check whether the character "_" is visible in kwrite. There were reports that it is not shown in Factory. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
Well, that was fruitless. The only space I have on my 2 tb drive is up near the end. Created a partition, installed Icewm from the DVD and it crapped out with the "transaction lock" error as usual. No sweat, I know what to do, setup Grub on there and Bob's your uncle. Except grub won't install there since, I suspect, it's hit the "higher than xxx gb" limit. I can boot to the partition by modifying menu.lst in my first partition, using the high partition's menu.lst entries, but apart from that ... So it will take a bit longer. Right now, I'm going to bed. Some good news, though. Using my install (let's call it #1, 20 gb around the 100 gb mark on the HDD) from last night, I was able to verify that: - suspend to disk works; - suspend to ram works; and - kwrite sees "_" characters (in test docs loaded, and when creating a doc). Of course, that install used the KDE:/KDE3 factory repo. More tomorrow. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 11 October 2011 09:51:01 Erik Sorenson wrote:
Some good news, though. Using my install (let's call it #1, 20 gb around the 100 gb mark on the HDD) from last night, I was able to verify that: - suspend to disk works; - suspend to ram works; and
Without hal package installed?
- kwrite sees "_" characters (in test docs loaded, and when creating a doc).
Of course, that install used the KDE:/KDE3 factory repo.
More tomorrow. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 11 October 2011 12:08:29 am Ilya Chernykh wrote:
Can you please do some testing on it?
** Note: all testing performed as root. This is on the brand new install of last night (up near the 2tb mark, call it Config #2), right after KDE3 from the OSS and non-OSS repos added and rebooted (i.e., KDE:/KDE3 repo not installed at all).
First try to install KDE3 completely from the main repo without enabling KDE:KDE3 repository: ** Done. But kde3-k3b, kdeadmin3, kdebase3-Suse, kdebindings3 and kdeutils3 not in repo; so installed without them; went well, no dependency throw-ups.
Add KDE:KDE3 and check if Amarok and Digikam work well and stable (Kirill reported crashes in these applications) ** Do you want me to also add the missing modules (e.g., kdeadmin3, etc)
** No HAL, but CD/DVD and USB Thumb recognised with standard "what do you want to do" popup. Didn't test burning, since no K3b. ** Reboot and power off through the K-menu works fine. However, the "Suspend Computer" button for the Suspend to Disk and Ram sub-selection is not present; so Suspend tests not possible. Note: it worked in 12.1 Configuration #1 (Genned two nights ago from KDE:/KDE3 Factory). Maybe the missing modules are responsible? through KDE:/KDE3 Factory, and also do the Amarok/Digikam testing, etc, afterwards?
Also check whether the character "_" is visible in kwrite. There were reports that it is not shown in Factory. ** Kwrite has no problem with "_" (or "-" characters; I'm using it now to write this note and paste into Kmail. Also, as I reported in my last email, it also works with Factory version.
Hey, hey ... "Personal Settings" works, too! Ilya, is it possible to work in the new KRandRtray? The current one will not hold settings between reboots/logouts; there's no "save as default". So I'm forced to always install the proprietary ATI driver all the time. It installs fine on all 12.1's to date (m3, m5, Beta). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 11 October 2011 17:55:16 Erik Sorenson wrote:
** Note: all testing performed as root. This is on the brand new install of last night (up near the 2tb mark, call it Config #2), right after KDE3 from the OSS and non-OSS repos added and rebooted (i.e., KDE:/KDE3 repo not installed at all).
First try to install KDE3 completely from the main repo without enabling KDE:KDE3 repository: ** Done. But kde3-k3b, kdeadmin3, kdebase3-Suse, kdebindings3 and kdeutils3 not in repo; so installed without them; went well, no dependency throw-ups.
kde3-k3b, kdebase3-Suse, kdebindings3 and kdeutils3 will be in Factory. kdeadmin3 I did not submit.
** No HAL, but CD/DVD and USB Thumb recognised with standard "what do you want to do" popup. Didn't test burning, since no K3b.
Install k3b from KDE:KDE3 but without hal.
** Reboot and power off through the K-menu works fine. However, the "Suspend Computer" button for the Suspend to Disk and Ram sub-selection is not present; so Suspend tests not possible. Note: it worked in 12.1 Configuration #1 (Genned two nights ago from KDE:/KDE3 Factory). Maybe the missing modules are responsible?
Possibly, kpowersave which needs hal. Con you test if it is dependent on kpowersave? Will the entries appear once kpowersave is installed?
Add KDE:KDE3 and check if Amarok and Digikam work well and stable (Kirill reported crashes in these applications) ** Do you want me to also add the missing modules (e.g., kdeadmin3, etc) through KDE:/KDE3 Factory, and also do the Amarok/Digikam testing, etc, afterwards?
Is kdeadmin3 is usable for anything? As I know it includes SysV init setup, but 12.1 will use systemd. Thus I did not submit it.
Also check whether the character "_" is visible in kwrite. There were reports that it is not shown in Factory. ** Kwrite has no problem with "_" (or "-" characters; I'm using it now to write this note and paste into Kmail. Also, as I reported in my last email, it also works with Factory version.
Hey, hey ... "Personal Settings" works, too!
Ilya, is it possible to work in the new KRandRtray? The current one will not hold settings between reboots/logouts; there's no "save as default". So I'm forced to always install the proprietary ATI driver all the time. It installs fine on all 12.1's to date (m3, m5, Beta).
I use nvidia so any xrandr and krandr settings are useless here anyway. They are configured with nvidia-settings utility. I have no ati computer under hand currently. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
Something strange. When I left the new install it was booting and rebooting fine. Read the kde3 group e-mails, and went back to test based on your (Ilya) requests. Wouldn't complete its boot. Not even safe mode. Finally got it (12.1k3) to boot to init3, but still went to blank screen after startx issued. Looked at windowmanager in /etc/sysconfig and noticed these lines at bottom: INSTALL_DESKTOP_EXTENSIONS="yes" KDE_USE_IPV6="yes" Fired up Yast commandline and installed kdebase3-Suse and it's dependency. Rebooted to init 3 again (still not going through to login screen, the normal way, as in earlier this a.m.), startx, and got the desktop. So far that's the only way I can get into the 12.1 test environment now. Connected? Or just Urban Legend? From what I see, "failed services in runlevel 5 ... kbd" is the message, and I note that kbd is not running in System Services when I do get to the desktop. I'll see if manually starting the service helps. Meanwhile, the original 12.1/k3 I genned from Factory still purrs along. I then installed kde3-k3b, kdebindings3, kdeutils and, later, digikam and amarok ... all from KDE:/KDE3 Factory. What's below are the rsults of various tests: On Tuesday 11 October 2011 10:51:20 am Ilya Chernykh wrote:
Install k3b from KDE:KDE3 but without hal.
** Done. Works fine; burned a CD.
Possibly, kpowersave which needs hal. Con you test if it is dependent on kpowersave? Will the entries appear once kpowersave is installed?
** Tried to install; kde3-kpowersave threw up a dependency on its language file which, to me is exactly the same version. Ditto if the language file is selected for install --- it throws up kde-kpowersave as an unsolvable dependency. I declined to install either. Needless to say, nothing appears but the Logout button as long as I'm unable to boot directly into the desktop. Something to look into?
Add KDE:KDE3 and check if Amarok and Digikam work well and stable (Kirill reported crashes in these applications)
** Done. Amarok works fine on .mp3's once all the codecs, etc are added to stop it complaining about .mp3's. Digikam, though, craps out with the following backtrace, when it is fired up; all is seen is the splash screen for a brief second: System configuration startup check disabled. [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [KCrash handler] #6 0xb6bd5fe9 in QGListIterator::QGListIterator(QGList const&) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #7 0xb759b02c in Digikam::AlbumManagerPriv::buildDirectoryModList(QFileInfo const&) () from /opt/kde3/lib/libdigikam.so.0 #8 0xb7594346 in Digikam::AlbumManager::setLibraryPath(QString const&, Digikam::SplashScreen*) () from /opt/kde3/lib/libdigikam.so.0 #9 0xb7553f92 in Digikam::DigikamApp::DigikamApp() () from /opt/kde3/lib/libdigikam.so.0 #10 0x0804a6cf in ?? () #11 0xb644c2b3 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 #12 0x0804a98d in ?? () Backtrace stopped: Not enough registers or memory available to unwind further
Is kdeadmin3 is usable for anything? As I know it includes SysV init setup, but 12.1 will use systemd. Thus I did not submit it.
** I did not install kdeadmin3. I guess I can check further later as to whether any functionality is missing, but it's not a high priority.
new KRandRtray? The current one will ....... I use nvidia so any xrandr and krandr settings are useless here anyway. They are configured with nvidia-settings utility. I have no ati computer under hand currently.
** Is that a definite "no"? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 11 October 2011 22:24:03 Erik Sorenson wrote:
** Tried to install; kde3-kpowersave threw up a dependency on its language file which, to me is exactly the same version. Ditto if the language file is selected for install --- it throws up kde-kpowersave as an unsolvable dependency. I declined to install either. Needless to say, nothing appears but the Logout button as long as I'm unable to boot directly into the desktop. Something to look into?
Thanks, fixed this. Indeed was an error.
System configuration startup check disabled. [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [KCrash handler] #6 0xb6bd5fe9 in QGListIterator::QGListIterator(QGList const&) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #7 0xb759b02c in Digikam::AlbumManagerPriv::buildDirectoryModList(QFileInfo const&) () from /opt/kde3/lib/libdigikam.so.0 #8 0xb7594346 in Digikam::AlbumManager::setLibraryPath(QString const&, Digikam::SplashScreen*) () from /opt/kde3/lib/libdigikam.so.0 #9 0xb7553f92 in Digikam::DigikamApp::DigikamApp() () from /opt/kde3/lib/libdigikam.so.0 #10 0x0804a6cf in ?? () #11 0xb644c2b3 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 #12 0x0804a98d in ?? () Backtrace stopped: Not enough registers or memory available to unwind further
So it does not work. :-( I am clueless about the cause. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On 11.10.2011 17:55, Erik Sorenson wrote:
Also check whether the character "_" is visible in kwrite. There were
reports that it is not shown in Factory. ** Kwrite has no problem with "_" (or "-" characters; I'm using it now to write this note and paste into Kmail. Also, as I reported in my last email, it also works with Factory version.
I have global (not KDE3 only) "_" problem. Will be reported to Factory list. -- WBR Kyrill -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
Using a text-mode install, I was able to put 12.1 Beta 32bit KDE3 successfully into a partition without a problem. Used the standard 12.1 OSS and non-OSS repos. Ilya: 1. You are right; kde3-kpowersave does not provide the "Suspend Computer" function on the logout menu. 2. kdeadmin3 --- I have been unable to find a use for this; the details of the rpm suggest the CrystalSVG icons are provided by this ... but they are installed without kdeadmin, so ... I really would like if you could become interested in getting a working (save as default) KRandRtray thingy working for us. Not everyone uses a Nvidia card ... I know, we are heathens, but ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
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