On Tuesday 08 March 2011 22:23:19 Erik Sorenson wrote:
I just installed KDE 3.5 on 11.4 (final) using a net.iso image. First, only installing a default IceWM selection, then adding the KDE3 repository for 11.4
Did you try it with different architectures? Is it only 64-bit specific?
I only use x86. Just unable to get KControl.desktop and icons.desktop to work in 11.4. 11.3 and 11.2 never a problem, genned new prod'n 11.3/3,5 a few weeks ago that I'm using now to write this. Using the same package selection, install methodology as always.
Does the 11.4/3.5 combo possibly have a new dependency that used to be included automatically in (say) 11.3 and 11.2? Link to (base) packages I installed is in original post.
On Wednesday 09 March 2011 7:38:33 am Erik Sorenson wrote:
On Tuesday 08 March 2011 22:23:19 Erik Sorenson wrote:
I just installed KDE 3.5 on 11.4 (final) using a net.iso image. First, only installing a default IceWM selection, then adding the KDE3 repository for 11.4
Did you try it with different architectures? Is it only 64-bit specific?
I only use x86. Just unable to get KControl.desktop and icons.desktop to work in 11.4. 11.3 and 11.2 never a problem, genned new prod'n 11.3/3,5 a few weeks ago that I'm using now to write this. Using the same package selection, install methodology as always.
Does the 11.4/3.5 combo possibly have a new dependency that used to be included automatically in (say) 11.3 and 11.2? Link to (base) packages I installed is in original post.
Just downloaded and installed the 11.4 final x86_64 DVD, using the two-step process I outlined previously. KControl.desktop and icons.desktop return the same results, i.e., the former comes up with a blank left side (categories), and the latter abends via kcmshell.kcrash with the following Trace info:
System configuration startup check disabled. [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [KCrash handler] #5 0x00007f4875e927e2 in __strlen_sse2 () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #6 0x00007f4874ffce50 in ?? () from /lib64/libz.so.1 #7 0x00007f487763fab9 in KSVGIconEngine::load(int, int, QString const&) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdecore.so.4 #8 0x00007f48701caa3b in IconThemesConfig::themeSelected(QListViewItem*) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/kcm_icons.so #9 0x00007f48701cc590 in IconThemesConfig::qt_invoke(int, QUObject*) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/kcm_icons.so #10 0x00007f4876d63b84 in QObject::activate_signal(QConnectionList*, QUObject*) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #11 0x00007f4877024700 in QListView::selectionChanged(QListViewItem*) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #12 0x00007f4876e1f19b in QListView::setSelected(QListViewItem*, bool) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #13 0x00007f48701cb492 in IconThemesConfig::load() () from /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/kcm_icons.so #14 0x00007f48701cbb35 in IconThemesConfig::IconThemesConfig(QWidget*, char const*) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/kcm_icons.so #15 0x00007f48701cd532 in IconModule::IconModule(QWidget*, char const*, QStringList const&) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/kcm_icons.so #16 0x00007f48701cef82 in KGenericFactory<IconModule, QWidget>::createObject(QObject*, char const*, char const*, QStringList const&) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/kcm_icons.so #17 0x00007f487754853a in KLibFactory::create(QObject*, char const*, char const*, QStringList const&) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdecore.so.4 #18 0x00007f48712edddf in KCModuleLoader::load(KCModuleInfo const&, QString const&, KLibLoader*, KCModuleLoader::ErrorReporting, QWidget*, char const*, QStringList const&) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkutils.so.1 #19 0x00007f48712ee658 in KCModuleLoader::loadModule(KCModuleInfo const&, KCModuleLoader::ErrorReporting, bool, QWidget*, char const*, QStringList const&) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkutils.so.1 #20 0x00007f48712eed75 in KCModuleProxy::realModule() const () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkutils.so.1 #21 0x00007f48712ef579 in KCModuleProxy::buttons() const () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkutils.so.1 #22 0x00007f48712ef5f7 in KCMultiDialog::slotAboutToShow(QWidget*) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkutils.so.1 #23 0x00007f48712f304d in KCMultiDialog::qt_invoke(int, QUObject*) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkutils.so.1 #24 0x00007f4876d63b84 in QObject::activate_signal(QConnectionList*, QUObject*) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #25 0x00007f4875a8d8e0 in KDialogBase::aboutToShowPage(QWidget*) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdeui.so.4 #26 0x00007f48712f5853 in KCMultiDialog::addModule(KCModuleInfo const&, QStringList, bool) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkutils.so.1 #27 0x00007f487152d185 in kdemain () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdeinit_kcmshell.so #28 0x0000000000406f91 in ?? () #29 0x0000000000407aad in ?? () #30 0x00000000004082fa in ?? () #31 0x00000000004091cf in ?? () #32 0x00007f4875e33bfd in __libc_start_main () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #33 0x0000000000404ef9 in ?? () #34 0x00007fff9f8b1438 in ?? () #35 0x000000000000001c in ?? () #36 0x0000000000000005 in ?? () #37 0x00007fff9f8b292d in ?? () #38 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
So it does it only on 11.4, and with both x86 and x86_64. Any idea what is happening, and how to get it working properly?
Here's the only items (24 for x86, 25 for x64) I ticked for install, same as I have been doing since 11.2: kde3-knemo kde3-gtk-qt-engine kde3-kio_sysinfo kde3-k3b kdeaddons3-konqueror kdeadmin3 kdeartwork3 kdeartwork3-kscreensaver kdeartwork3-sound kdebase3 (plus 32-bit if installing x64) kdebase3-SuSE kdebase3-apps kdebase3-kdm kdebase3-ksysguardd kdebase3-session kdebindings3 kdegames3 kdegraphics3 kdemultimedia3 kdemultimedia3-mixer kdenetwork3 kdepim3 kdeutils3 qtcurve-kde3
Just downloaded and installed the 11.4 final x86_64 DVD, using the two-step process I outlined previously. KControl.desktop and icons.desktop return the same results, i.e., the former comes up with a blank left side (categories), and the latter abends via kcmshell.kcrash with the following Trace info:
kdebase3 build was not possible for the last several days because of another bug (in pcsc-lite package in 11.4). Now it is fixed and KDE3 repository is currently being rebuilt. Please report feedback after the update.
kdebase3 build was not possible for the last several days because of another bug (in pcsc-lite package in 11.4). Now it is fixed and KDE3 repository is currently being rebuilt. Please report feedback after the update.
What's the ETA on that? Thanx
On Friday 11 March 2011 00:22:06 Larry Stotler wrote:
kdebase3 build was not possible for the last several days because of another bug (in pcsc-lite package in 11.4). Now it is fixed and KDE3 repository is currently being rebuilt. Please report feedback after the update.
What's the ETA on that? Thanx
Several hour to several days. Anyway I did not make any fixes, this is just a technical rebuild.
On Friday 11 March 2011 00:22:06 Larry Stotler wrote:
What's the ETA on that? Thanx
By the way, did you try to install kdebase3 from 11.3 repository? does it work?
On Thursday 10 March 2011 4:47:51 pm Ilya Chernykh wrote:
By the way, did you try to install kdebase3 from 11.3 repository? does it work?
I run 11.3/3.5 99% of the time every day in my x86 production PC, and everything works. I'm writing this on that system now.
I went into the x86 11.4/3.5 partition and added the /KDE3/../11.3 repository, then upgraded kdebase3 (just itself) from 3.5.10.1-123.1 to 123.2. No change in KControl or icons.desktop behaviour, with or without loging out/in. Next step, upgraded kdebase3-apps, kdm, ksysguardd, nsplugin, runtime, session and workplace all at once to 123.2 (also from 123.1). Logout/in ... no change in behaviour.
Note: kdebase3-SuSE-branding-openSUSE was at 11.3.6.1 and upgraded to 11.2-6.4 OK, but kdebase3-SuSE (same versions) threw up an error when upgrade selected, "nothing provided libhd.so.17 needed by kdebase3-SuSE-11.2-6.4.i586", so I left it at 11.3.6.1. BTW, my 11.3/3.5 "production" PC has libhd.so.17 (symlinked to libhd.so.17.3) in /usr/lib.
Just for the heck of it, I copied the symlink and 17.3 to the 11.4 install, and booted there; had to force Yast to update kdebase3-SuSE to 11.2-6.4. No difference afterwards.
So, no, using the 11.3 KDE3 repository in 11.4 x86 provides no relief to the Kcontrol and icons.desktop problem. Same blank left column, and icons.desktop throwing up the KDE Crash Handler.
Note: kdebase3-SuSE-branding-openSUSE was at 11.3.6.1 and upgraded to 11.2-6.4 OK, but kdebase3-SuSE (same versions) threw up an error when upgrade selected, "nothing provided libhd.so.17 needed by kdebase3-SuSE-11.2-6.4.i586", so I left it at 11.3.6.1. BTW, my 11.3/3.5 "production" PC has libhd.so.17 (symlinked to libhd.so.17.3) in /usr/lib.
Just for the heck of it, I copied the symlink and 17.3 to the 11.4 install, and booted there; had to force Yast to update kdebase3-SuSE to 11.2-6.4. No difference afterwards.
So, no, using the 11.3 KDE3 repository in 11.4 x86 provides no relief to the Kcontrol and icons.desktop problem. Same blank left column, and icons.desktop throwing up the KDE Crash Handler.
Thank you for the experiment. We have to locate the package that causes the error.
Seems it is outside of KDE3. Thus we have to report a bug against that package or build the older version separately in KDE3 repository.
On Friday 11 March 2011 05:28:33 Erik Sorenson wrote:
So, no, using the 11.3 KDE3 repository in 11.4 x86 provides no relief to the Kcontrol and icons.desktop problem. Same blank left column, and icons.desktop throwing up the KDE Crash Handler.
Do you use an SVG icon theme (Oxygen)? If you use an SVG-based theme, try to manually change the icon theme through the config files to a raster-based theme (for example, KDE Classic). Then try to run the icon kcontrol module again.
On Friday 11 March 2011 5:57:37 am Ilya Chernykh wrote:
Do you use an SVG icon theme (Oxygen)? If you use an SVG-based theme, try to manually change the icon theme through the config files to a raster-based theme (for example, KDE Classic). Then try to run the icon kcontrol module again.
Point of comparison: in my 11.3/3/5 Production system, the icon theme in use is Crystal SUSE (not Crystal SVG); I think these (below) are the controlling config files, both with value "<icons name="crystalsuse">": ~/.kde/share/apps/kstyle/themes/original/original.xml ~/.kde/share/apps/kthememanager/themes/original/original.xml
The 11.4/3.5 installs, both x86 & x86_64, only have: ~/.kde/share/apps/kthememanager/themes/original/original.xml
The other file does not exist. Both install have the same values in that config file, assuming that is the place to look. A quick boot into those partitions reveals that neither "oxygen" nor "sonar" icons/themes are installed. No "oxygen" on my production 11.3/3.5 either.
Ilya, should I be looking someplace else for the config files?
On 03/11/2011 07:39 AM, Erik Sorenson wrote:
On Friday 11 March 2011 5:57:37 am Ilya Chernykh wrote:
Do you use an SVG icon theme (Oxygen)? If you use an SVG-based theme, try to manually change the icon theme through the config files to a raster-based theme (for example, KDE Classic). Then try to run the icon kcontrol module again.
Point of comparison: in my 11.3/3/5 Production system, the icon theme in use is Crystal SUSE (not Crystal SVG); I think these (below) are the controlling config files, both with value "<icons name="crystalsuse">": ~/.kde/share/apps/kstyle/themes/original/original.xml ~/.kde/share/apps/kthememanager/themes/original/original.xml
The 11.4/3.5 installs, both x86& x86_64, only have: ~/.kde/share/apps/kthememanager/themes/original/original.xml
The other file does not exist. Both install have the same values in that config file, assuming that is the place to look. A quick boot into those partitions reveals that neither "oxygen" nor "sonar" icons/themes are installed. No "oxygen" on my production 11.3/3.5 either.
Ilya, should I be looking someplace else for the config files?
If you want to configure you icon size, etc.. while waiting on kcontrol to be fixed, you can use the following ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals as a reference. Just exit kde then edit your ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals and add the following sections:
[DesktopIcons] [Icons] [MainToolbarIcons] [PanelIcons] [SmallIcons] [ToolbarIcons]
From the other thread, I think it is either a missing config file or missing entries in an existing config causing a parse error and the kcrash. I'm not very good at debugging this kind of thing, but at least I've got the icon size and theme changed and I can access the icon module now.
On Saturday 12 March 2011 02:34:06 David C. Rankin wrote:
From the other thread, I think it is either a missing config file or missing entries in an existing config causing a parse error and the kcrash. I'm not very good at debugging this kind of thing, but at least I've got the icon size and theme changed and I can access the icon module now.
Does the problem persist with or without kdebase3-SuSE package?
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