[opensuse-kde3] 11.4 - kcontrol is (empty) and sftp://host:port/path doesn't work - but it looks SOOO GOOD :)
Ilya, Robert: KDE3 Looks really, really good in 11.4. Two issues have surfaced: (1) kcontrol is empty :( http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/suse/bugs/114/kde3/kcontrol-empty.jpg (kcmshell.kcrash included at the end, below) I also have a kcontrol.kcrash from trying to select kthememanager->icons (2) The konqueror sftp://host:port/path/to/file syntax doesn't work in 11.4. I just talked about this with Robert/all on the Trinity list and it appeared fixed in 11.3. But in 11.4 it is broken again :( http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/suse/bugs/114/konqueror/sftp-ssh-error.jpg fish is OK: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/suse/bugs/114/konqueror/fish-ok.jpg Also, why not bump konqueror -> settings -> Previews & Meta-Data -> Maximum file size: 6M (3 is sort of small) Let me know if I can send anything else. Great Job Ilya!! ========= kcmshell.kcrash ========== System configuration startup check disabled. [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [KCrash handler] #5 0x00007f1c159e57e2 in __strlen_sse2 () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #6 0x00007f1c12bf0e50 in ?? () from /lib64/libz.so.1 #7 0x00007f1c14928ab9 in KSVGIconEngine::load(int, int, QString const&) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdecore.so.4 #8 0x00007f1c0e27aa3b in IconThemesConfig::themeSelected(QListViewItem*) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/kcm_icons.so #9 0x00007f1c0e27c590 in IconThemesConfig::qt_invoke(int, QUObject*) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/kcm_icons.so #10 0x00007f1c13e0fb84 in QObject::activate_signal(QConnectionList*, QUObject*) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #11 0x00007f1c140d0700 in QListView::selectionChanged(QListViewItem*) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #12 0x00007f1c13ecb19b in QListView::setSelected(QListViewItem*, bool) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #13 0x00007f1c0e27b492 in IconThemesConfig::load() () from /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/kcm_icons.so #14 0x00007f1c0e27bb35 in IconThemesConfig::IconThemesConfig(QWidget*, char const*) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/kcm_icons.so #15 0x00007f1c0e27d532 in IconModule::IconModule(QWidget*, char const*, QStringList const&) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/kcm_icons.so #16 0x00007f1c0e27ef82 in KGenericFactory<IconModule, QWidget>::createObject(QObject*, char const*, char const*, QStringList const&) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/kcm_icons.so #17 0x00007f1c1483153a in KLibFactory::create(QObject*, char const*, char const*, QStringList const&) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdecore.so.4 #18 0x00007f1c15733ddf in KCModuleLoader::load(KCModuleInfo const&, QString const&, KLibLoader*, KCModuleLoader::ErrorReporting, QWidget*, char const*, QStringList const&) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkutils.so.1 #19 0x00007f1c15734658 in KCModuleLoader::loadModule(KCModuleInfo const&, KCModuleLoader::ErrorReporting, bool, QWidget*, char const*, QStringList const&) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkutils.so.1 #20 0x00007f1c15734d75 in KCModuleProxy::realModule() const () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkutils.so.1 #21 0x00007f1c15735579 in KCModuleProxy::buttons() const () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkutils.so.1 #22 0x00007f1c157355f7 in KCMultiDialog::slotAboutToShow(QWidget*) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkutils.so.1 #23 0x00007f1c1573904d in KCMultiDialog::qt_invoke(int, QUObject*) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkutils.so.1 #24 0x00007f1c13e0fb84 in QObject::activate_signal(QConnectionList*, QUObject*) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #25 0x00007f1c14dbe8e0 in KDialogBase::aboutToShowPage(QWidget*) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdeui.so.4 #26 0x00007f1c1573b853 in KCMultiDialog::addModule(KCModuleInfo const&, QStringList, bool) () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkutils.so.1 #27 0x00007f1c15ce0185 in kdemain () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdeinit_kcmshell.so #28 0x00007f1c15986bfd in __libc_start_main () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #29 0x00000000004005a9 in ?? () #30 0x00007ffffb4e37a8 in ?? () #31 0x000000000000001c in ?? () #32 0x0000000000000002 in ?? () #33 0x00007ffffb4e5654 in ?? () #34 0x00007ffffb4e565d in ?? () #35 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On 03/10/2011 08:32 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
Ilya, Robert:
Here is an updated kcmshell.kcrash (with debug packages installed) for the crash when trying to access 'icons' in 'kcmshell kthememanager': System configuration startup check disabled. [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [KCrash handler] #5 0x00007f9a548667e2 in __strlen_sse2 () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #6 0x00007f9a51a71e50 in ?? () from /lib64/libz.so.1 #7 0x00007f9a537a9ab9 in KSVGIconEngine::load (this=0x7ffff5cd9340, width=48, height=48, path=...) at kdecore/svgicons/ksvgiconengine.cpp:554 #8 0x00007f9a4d0e4a3b in IconThemesConfig::themeSelected (this=0x76e270, item=<value optimized out>) at kcontrol/icons/iconthemes.cpp:356 #9 0x00007f9a4d0e6590 in IconThemesConfig::qt_invoke (this=0x76e270, _id=48, _o=0x7ffff5cd9400) at kcontrol/icons/iconthemes.moc:89 #10 0x00007f9a52c90b84 in QObject::activate_signal(QConnectionList*, QUObject*) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #11 0x00007f9a52f51700 in QListView::selectionChanged(QListViewItem*) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #12 0x00007f9a52d4c19b in QListView::setSelected(QListViewItem*, bool) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #13 0x00007f9a4d0e5492 in IconThemesConfig::load (this=0x76e270) at kcontrol/icons/iconthemes.cpp:407 #14 0x00007f9a4d0e5b35 in IconThemesConfig::IconThemesConfig (this=0x76e270, parent=<value optimized out>, name=<value optimized out>) at kcontrol/icons/iconthemes.cpp:105 #15 0x00007f9a4d0e7532 in IconModule::IconModule (this=0x768e70, parent=<value optimized out>, name=<value optimized out>) at kcontrol/icons/main.cpp:46 #16 0x00007f9a4d0e8f82 in create (this=<value optimized out>, parent=<value optimized out>, name=0x7f9a52f73676 "unnamed", className=<value optimized out>, args=...) at /opt/kde3/include/kgenericfactory.tcc:157 #17 create (this=<value optimized out>, parent=<value optimized out>, name=0x7f9a52f73676 "unnamed", className=<value optimized out>, args=...) at /opt/kde3/include/kgenericfactory.tcc:133 #18 KGenericFactory<IconModule, QWidget>::createObject (this=<value optimized out>, parent=<value optimized out>, name=0x7f9a52f73676 "unnamed", className=<value optimized out>, args=...) at /opt/kde3/include/kgenericfactory.h:194 #19 0x00007f9a536b253a in KLibFactory::create (this=0x767910, parent=<value optimized out>, name=<value optimized out>, classname=<value optimized out>, args=<value optimized out>) at kdecore/klibloader.cpp:83 #20 0x00007f9a545b4ddf in createInstanceFromFactory<KCModule> (mod=..., libname=<value optimized out>, loader=<value optimized out>, report=KCModuleLoader::Inline, parent=0x75be90, name=0x7f9a52f73676 "unnamed", args=...) at kparts/componentfactory.h:67 #21 KCModuleLoader::load (mod=..., libname=<value optimized out>, loader=<value optimized out>, report=KCModuleLoader::Inline, parent=0x75be90, name=0x7f9a52f73676 "unnamed", args=...) at kutils/kcmoduleloader.cpp:75 #22 0x00007f9a545b5658 in KCModuleLoader::loadModule (mod=..., report=KCModuleLoader::Inline, withfallback=false, parent=0x75be90, name=0x7f9a52f73676 "unnamed", args=...) at kutils/kcmoduleloader.cpp:142 #23 0x00007f9a545b5d75 in KCModuleProxy::realModule (this=0x75be90) at kutils/kcmoduleproxy.cpp:186 #24 0x00007f9a545b6579 in KCModuleProxy::buttons (this=0x75be90) at kutils/kcmoduleproxy.cpp:602 #25 0x00007f9a545b65f7 in KCMultiDialog::slotAboutToShow (this=0x69eda0, page=<value optimized out>) at kutils/kcmultidialog.cpp:368 #26 0x00007f9a545ba04d in KCMultiDialog::qt_invoke (this=0x69eda0, _id=90, _o=0x7ffff5cd9dd0) at kutils/kcmultidialog.moc:142 #27 0x00007f9a52c90b84 in QObject::activate_signal(QConnectionList*, QUObject*) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #28 0x00007f9a53c3f8e0 in KDialogBase::aboutToShowPage (this=0x69eda0, t0=0x6a1ab0) at kdeui/kdialogbase.moc:333 #29 0x00007f9a545bc853 in KCMultiDialog::addModule (this=0x69eda0, moduleinfo=..., parentmodulenames=<value optimized out>, withfallback=<value optimized out>) at kutils/kcmultidialog.cpp:306 #30 0x00007f9a54b61185 in kdemain (_argc=<value optimized out>, _argv=<value optimized out>) at kcmshell/main.cpp:317 #31 0x00007f9a54807bfd in __libc_start_main () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #32 0x00000000004005a9 in _start () at ../sysdeps/x86_64/elf/start.S:113 -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 11 March 2011 05:32:08 David C. Rankin wrote:
(kcmshell.kcrash included at the end, below)
I also have a kcontrol.kcrash from trying to select kthememanager->icons
(2) The konqueror sftp://host:port/path/to/file syntax doesn't work in 11.4. I just talked about this with Robert/all on the Trinity list and it appeared fixed in 11.3. But in 11.4 it is broken again :(
KDE3 in 11.3 and 11.4 repos share the same code base. So thin is not a KDE issue. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 11 March 2011 05:32:08 David C. Rankin wrote:
Also, why not bump konqueror -> settings -> Previews & Meta-Data -> Maximum file size: 6M (3 is sort of small)
Send a patch, I will accept it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
Monday 11 April 2011 On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:32:08 -0600 David C. Rankin wrote:
KDE3 Looks really, really good in 11.4. Two issues have surfaced:
(1) kcontrol is empty :(
http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/suse/bugs/114/kde3/kcontrol-empty.jpg
I didn't test myself, but user from Russian forum said this is a bug(?) in desktop-data-openSUSE. http://unixforum.org/index.php?showtopic=123223&view=findpost&p=1149112 -- WBR Kyrill -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 11 April 2011 19:25:39 Kyrill Detinov wrote:
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:32:08 -0600 David C. Rankin wrote:
KDE3 Looks really, really good in 11.4. Two issues have surfaced:
(1) kcontrol is empty :(
http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/suse/bugs/114/kde3/kcontrol-empty.jpg
I didn't test myself, but user from Russian forum said this is a bug(?) in desktop-data-openSUSE.
http://unixforum.org/index.php?showtopic=123223&view=findpost&p=1149112
Thanks for pointing this out. I will check it. By the way, I have this package installed from 11.4 repository and I have kcontrol working well. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 11 April 2011 19:25:39 Kyrill Detinov wrote:
(1) kcontrol is empty :(
http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/suse/bugs/114/kde3/kcontrol-empty.jpg
I didn't test myself, but user from Russian forum said this is a bug(?) in desktop-data-openSUSE.
http://unixforum.org/index.php?showtopic=123223&view=findpost&p=1149112
I have just tried in SUSE Studio and indeed this works. With the package from 11.3 all kcontrol items are in place. This is a good workaraund for now. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 11 April 2011 19:25:39 Kyrill Detinov wrote:
KDE3 Looks really, really good in 11.4. Two issues have surfaced:
(1) kcontrol is empty :(
http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/suse/bugs/114/kde3/kcontrol-empty.jpg
I didn't test myself, but user from Russian forum said this is a bug(?) in desktop-data-openSUSE.
http://unixforum.org/index.php?showtopic=123223&view=findpost&p=1149112
The problem is localized. I found the exact line which caused it. Now preparing a patch. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On 04/11/2011 05:14 PM, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
On Monday 11 April 2011 19:25:39 Kyrill Detinov wrote:
KDE3 Looks really, really good in 11.4. Two issues have surfaced:
(1) kcontrol is empty :(
http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/suse/bugs/114/kde3/kcontrol-empty.jpg
I didn't test myself, but user from Russian forum said this is a bug(?) in desktop-data-openSUSE.
http://unixforum.org/index.php?showtopic=123223&view=findpost&p=1149112
The problem is localized. I found the exact line which caused it. Now preparing a patch.
Excellent! Can't wait. Thanks Ilya! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 12 April 2011 07:02:03 David C. Rankin wrote:
(1) kcontrol is empty :(
http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/suse/bugs/114/kde3/kcontrol-empty.jpg
I didn't test myself, but user from Russian forum said this is a bug(?) in desktop-data-openSUSE.
http://unixforum.org/index.php?showtopic=123223&view=findpost&p=1149112
The problem is localized. I found the exact line which caused it. Now preparing a patch.
Excellent! Can't wait. Thanks Ilya!
The patch is submitted into openSUSE:11.4:Update:Test. Meanwhile the interested parties can comment in this bugreport: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=686786 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 12 April 2011 07:02:03 David C. Rankin wrote:
Excellent! Can't wait. Thanks Ilya!
The fixed packages can be found in this repository: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Ansus:/branches:/openSUSE:/1... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On 2011/04/12 07:26 (GMT+0400) Ilya Chernykh composed:
The fixed packages can be found in this repository:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Ansus:/branches:/openSUSE:/1...
Works for me in Tumbleweed!!! :-) -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On 2011/04/11 23:56 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed:
On 2011/04/12 07:26 (GMT+0400) Ilya Chernykh composed:
The fixed packages can be found in this repository:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Ansus:/branches:/openSUSE:/1...
Works for me in Tumbleweed!!! :-)
Why does it remain necessary to enable the Ansus repo to have KControl's left panel populated? Shouldn't those packages be in the main KDE3 repo by now? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 01 June 2011 11:26:46 Felix Miata wrote:
The fixed packages can be found in this repository:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Ansus:/branches:/openSUS E:/11.4:/Update:/Test/standard/
Works for me in Tumbleweed!!! :-)
Why does it remain necessary to enable the Ansus repo to have KControl's left panel populated?
Why do you think so? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On 2011/06/01 12:40 (GMT+0400) Ilya Chernykh composed:
On Wednesday 01 June 2011 11:26:46 Felix Miata wrote:
The fixed packages can be found in this repository:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Ansus:/branches:/openSUS E:/11.4:/Update:/Test/standard/
Works for me in Tumbleweed!!! :-)
Why does it remain necessary to enable the Ansus repo to have KControl's left panel populated?
Why do you think so?
I did a fresh 11.4 minimal X install with 3 as default runlevel last night, then did zypper up, then added the KDE3 repo, then did a minimal KDE3 install, then started runlevel 5.[1] KControl was empty, so I looked through my personal mailing list archive and found this thread had a solution, which worked. Since the Ansus desktop-data package still existed, I presumed its content to not be available in the KDE3 repo. Since you asked, I now know different, but the question remains why the Ansus repo still has desktop-data-openSUSE when updates has a newer one that works. Also, why didn't any of the necessary KDE3 packages pull any desktop-data package in as a dep? [1] .bash_history excerpts: zypper lr zypper ref zypper se kdm zpper in --no-recommends kdebase3-kdm zypper in --no-recommends kdebase3-kdm zypper se kdebase3 zypper in --no-recommends kdebase3 kdebase3-workspace kdebase3-session kdebase3-apps kdebase3-extra kdebase3-nsplugin zypper se snaps zypper se network zypper se kcm zypper in --no-recommends kde3-kcm_gtk kdenetwork3-IRC zypper in --no-recommends kdeutils3 kdegraphics3 systemsettings-kde3 zypper in --no-recommends kdeutils3 kdegraphics3 systemsettings-kde3 kdeadmin3 zypper ref zypper se desktop-data zypper dup zypper dup --no-recommends init 5 -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 01 June 2011 17:14:32 Felix Miata wrote:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Ansus:/branches:/ope nSUS E:/11.4:/Update:/Test/standard/
Works for me in Tumbleweed!!! :-)
Why does it remain necessary to enable the Ansus repo to have KControl's left panel populated?
Why do you think so?
I did a fresh 11.4 minimal X install with 3 as default runlevel last night, then did zypper up, then added the KDE3 repo, then did a minimal KDE3 install, then started runlevel 5.[1] KControl was empty, so I looked through my personal mailing list archive and found this thread had a solution, which worked. Since the Ansus desktop-data package still existed, I presumed its content to not be available in the KDE3 repo. Since you asked, I now know different, but the question remains why the Ansus repo still has desktop-data-openSUSE when updates has a newer one that works. Also, why didn't any of the necessary KDE3 packages pull any desktop-data package in as a dep?
Which KDE3 packages do you cont as necessary? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On 2011/06/01 18:03 (GMT+0400) Ilya Chernykh composed:
Which KDE3 packages do you cont as necessary?
Those without which a KDE3 session could not be started, minimally personalized, and actually used to open apps with the app starter (Kicker), something like: kdebase3 kdebase3-runtime kdebase3-session kdebase3-workspace systemsettings-kde3 and likely also kdebase3-apps kdeutils3 Whatever the list turns out to need to be, plus their hard deps, there ought to be a kde3-minimal metapackage that includes them. Right now is produced from 'rpm -qa | grep kd' the above, plus: kde3-kcm_gtk # for Firefox & Gimp kdebase3-extra kdebase3-kdm kdebase3-nsplugin kdegraphics3 kdelibs3 kdelibs3-arts kdelibs3-default-style kdenetwork3-IRC Right now is produced from 'rpm -qa | grep qt: dbus-1-qt3 libpoppler-qt2 libqt4 libqt4-qt3support libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-x11 qt3 yast2-control-center-qt3 yast2-qt yast2-qt-graph yast2-qt-pkg For me, minimal function also requires KCalc, KSnapshot & KInfoCenter (I don't know how to find out from runlevel 3 which package(s) they are parts of). -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 01 June 2011 19:30:50 Felix Miata wrote:
On 2011/06/01 18:03 (GMT+0400) Ilya Chernykh composed:
Which KDE3 packages do you cont as necessary?
Those without which a KDE3 session could not be started, minimally personalized, and actually used to open apps with the app starter (Kicker), something like:
kdebase3 kdebase3-runtime kdebase3-session kdebase3-workspace systemsettings-kde3
and likely also
kdebase3-apps kdeutils3
You missed kdebase3-SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On 2011/06/01 19:58 (GMT+0400) Ilya Chernykh composed:
On Wednesday 01 June 2011 19:30:50 Felix Miata wrote:
On 2011/06/01 18:03 (GMT+0400) Ilya Chernykh composed:
Which KDE3 packages do you cont as necessary?
Those without which a KDE3 session could not be started, minimally personalized, and actually used to open apps with the app starter (Kicker), something like:
kdebase3 kdebase3-runtime kdebase3-session kdebase3-workspace systemsettings-kde3
and likely also
kdebase3-apps kdeutils3
You missed kdebase3-SUSE
Apparently kdebase3-SUSE is not required/necessary. It's not installed, yet I'm looking at Firefox, KSnapshot, KCalc, Konsole and release 128 KControl windows on it now. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 01 June 2011 20:27:38 Felix Miata wrote:
Apparently kdebase3-SUSE is not required/necessary. It's not installed, yet I'm looking at Firefox, KSnapshot, KCalc, Konsole and release 128 KControl windows on it now.
In that case why do you ask why your system does not work properly? kdebase3-SUSE includes SUSE-specific settings. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On 2011/06/01 21:19 (GMT+0400) Ilya Chernykh composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
Apparently kdebase3-SUSE is not required/necessary. It's not installed, yet I'm looking at Firefox, KSnapshot, KCalc, Konsole and release 128 KControl windows on it now.
In that case why do you ask why your system does not work properly?
I asked before I knew that a package (kdebase3-SUSE) that apparently should have been installed as a dependency of what I specifically asked zypper to install was required but not installed.
kdebase3-SUSE includes SUSE-specific settings.
I don't expect SUSE-specific settings to be prerequisite to KDE function. Should not KControl always be populated with something, regardless whether any SUSE-specifics are installed or not? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
I asked before I knew that a package (kdebase3-SUSE) that apparently should have been installed as a dependency of what I specifically asked zypper to install was required but not installed.
kdebase3-SUSE includes SUSE-specific settings.
I don't expect SUSE-specific settings to be prerequisite to KDE function. Should not KControl always be populated with something, regardless whether any SUSE-specifics are installed or not?
kcontrol was broken in a SUSE-specific package desktop-data-openSUSE. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On 2011/06/01 22:37 (GMT+0400) Ilya Chernykh composed:
I asked before I knew that a package (kdebase3-SUSE) that apparently should have been installed as a dependency of what I specifically asked zypper to install was required but not installed.
kdebase3-SUSE includes SUSE-specific settings.
I don't expect SUSE-specific settings to be prerequisite to KDE function. Should not KControl always be populated with something, regardless whether any SUSE-specifics are installed or not?
kcontrol was broken in a SUSE-specific package desktop-data-openSUSE.
Looks to me more like KControl was broken by depending on desktop-data-openSUSE, since the latter was not installed and KControl had nothing populating the selection pane. Where does the data to populate KControl come from in pure, unadulterated KDE3? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 01 June 2011 22:54:52 Felix Miata wrote:
I asked before I knew that a package (kdebase3-SUSE) that apparently should have been installed as a dependency of what I specifically asked zypper to install was required but not installed.
kdebase3-SUSE includes SUSE-specific settings.
I don't expect SUSE-specific settings to be prerequisite to KDE function. Should not KControl always be populated with something, regardless whether any SUSE-specifics are installed or not?
kcontrol was broken in a SUSE-specific package desktop-data-openSUSE.
Looks to me more like KControl was broken by depending on desktop-data-openSUSE, since the latter was not installed and KControl had nothing populating the selection pane.
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On 2011/06/01 14:54 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed:
On 2011/06/01 22:37 (GMT+0400) Ilya Chernykh composed:
kcontrol was broken in a SUSE-specific package desktop-data-openSUSE.
Looks to me more like KControl was broken by depending on desktop-data-openSUSE, since the latter was not installed and KControl had nothing populating the selection pane.
I did a 11.4/KDE3 fresh install on another system. The default unpopulated KControl can be fixed either of two ways: 1-1 package, desktop-data-openSUSE from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Ansus:/branches:/openSUSE:/1..., which keeps default KDE3 settings 2-11 packages, kdebase3-SuSE plus 10 deps, which kill a bunch of default KDE3 settings that I have to find and fix, e.g. automatic screensaver in 4 min instead of no screensaver, white background instead of image, and non-default splash instead of default splash. For those like me seeking a minimalist install, #1 seems preferable. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 02 June 2011 09:59:42 Felix Miata wrote:
Looks to me more like KControl was broken by depending on desktop-data-openSUSE, since the latter was not installed and KControl had nothing populating the selection pane.
I did a 11.4/KDE3 fresh install on another system. The default unpopulated KControl can be fixed either of two ways:
1-1 package, desktop-data-openSUSE from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Ansus:/branches:/openSUSE:/ 11.4:/Update:/Test/standard/, which keeps default KDE3 settings
2-11 packages, kdebase3-SuSE plus 10 deps, which kill a bunch of default KDE3 settings that I have to find and fix, e.g. automatic screensaver in 4 min instead of no screensaver, white background instead of image, and non-default splash instead of default splash.
There should net be white background. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On 04/11/2011 10:26 PM, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
On Tuesday 12 April 2011 07:02:03 David C. Rankin wrote:
Excellent! Can't wait. Thanks Ilya!
The fixed packages can be found in this repository:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Ansus:/branches:/openSUSE:/1...
Wohoo! IT WORKS! Thanks Ilya -- what was it? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
Wohoo! IT WORKS!
Based on my and David's experience with Ilya's x86_64 live DVD, I wiped my production 11.4_x86/KDE3 partition and reinstalled from scratch. Everything works just fine. I did not install the replacement "systemsettings-kde3" module, as Kcontrol now works perfectly without it. Ilya, are you planning to put the two "desktop-data" files, currently in "... /Ansus:/branches:/openSUSE:/11.4:/Update:/Test/standard/", into the regular ".../KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_11.4/" repo? All that said, in my previous 11.4_x86/KDE3 (pre-wipe) install, and this one, I've noted only two potential problem areas: 1. k3b (v1.05) seems to be getting very long in the tooth, and absolutely refuses to format any non-preformatted DVDs that I have. At best, it will start, then finish immediately --- having accomplised nothing, even if "forced" is checked. I have to reboot to Windows and use imgburn to do it! I've updated a test 11.4/kde3 partition with the latest k3b and, of course, it wants to pull in a pile of kde4 stuff. I've let it do that, minus the virtuoso and strigi junk. Seems to be working OK, but I need to run some more tests. 2. Firefox 4 seems to have rendering bugs, so I have gladly reverted to 3.6.16. Both, in 11.4/kde3, also seem to have difficulty downloading and rendering embedded .pdfs. Need to refresh, try to launch in new window, sometimes multiple times just to get the .pdf to load and render completely. No such issues in 11.3/kde3. I've tried both 11.2 and 11.3 Catalyst drivers. No diff. Maybe it's just early days. Anyone else having similar problems? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
Ilya, are you planning to put the two "desktop-data" files, currently in "... /Ansus:/branches:/openSUSE:/11.4:/Update:/Test/standard/", into the regular ".../KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_11.4/" repo?
They do not belong to KDE3, they are part of openSUSE and are submitted to the openSUSE updates. They are subject to reviw by openSUSE maintainers. This patch has been already accepted to Factory.N�����r��y隊Z)z{.�� {��˛���m�)z{.��+�Z+i�b�*'jW(�f�vǦj)h���Ǥu����i����� ��
There is a newer ISO available now with some features are fixed. https://susestudio.com/download/bd598b60d953082662fc9d83300d51c5/OpenSUSE_11...
On Monday 18 April 2011 16:39:19 Erik Sorenson wrote:
Wohoo! IT WORKS!
Based on my and David's experience with Ilya's x86_64 live DVD, I wiped my production 11.4_x86/KDE3 partition and reinstalled from scratch. Everything works just fine. I did not install the replacement "systemsettings-kde3" module, as Kcontrol now works perfectly without it.
Ilya, are you planning to put the two "desktop-data" files, currently in "... /Ansus:/branches:/openSUSE:/11.4:/Update:/Test/standard/", into the regular ".../KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_11.4/" repo?
They do not belong to KDE3, they are part of openSUSE and are submitted to the openSUSE updates. They are subject to reviw by openSUSE maintainers. This patch has been already accepted to Factory.
All that said, in my previous 11.4_x86/KDE3 (pre-wipe) install, and this one, I've noted only two potential problem areas:
1. k3b (v1.05) seems to be getting very long in the tooth, and absolutely refuses to format any non-preformatted DVDs that I have. At best, it will start, then finish immediately --- having accomplised nothing, even if "forced" is checked. I have to reboot to Windows and use imgburn to do it!
You can use the following command to erase the CDs after which k3b should work well: cdrecord -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/cdrom blank=all
I've updated a test 11.4/kde3 partition with the latest k3b and, of course, it wants to pull in a pile of kde4 stuff. I've let it do that, minus the virtuoso and strigi junk. Seems to be working OK, but I need to run some more tests.
You can try another KDE3 utility - Kiso which exists in the repository.
2. Firefox 4 seems to have rendering bugs, so I have gladly reverted to 3.6.16. Both, in 11.4/kde3, also seem to have difficulty downloading and rendering embedded .pdfs. Need to refresh, try to launch in new window, sometimes multiple times just to get the .pdf to load and render completely. No such issues in 11.3/kde3. I've tried both 11.2 and 11.3 Catalyst drivers. No diff. Maybe it's just early days.
Anyone else having similar problems?
You can try opera/qt3: ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/infosys/browsers/opera/linux/1001/final/en/i386/shared/opera-10.01.gcc4.shared.qt3.i386.rpm ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/infosys/browsers/opera/linux/1001/final/en/x86_64/opera-10.01.gcc4.shared.qt3.x86_64.rpm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
Monday 18 April 2011 On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 23:29:27 +0400 Ilya Chernykh wrote:
You can try opera/qt3:
ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/infosys/browsers/opera/linux/1001/final/en/i386/shared/opera-10.01.gcc4.shared.qt3.i386.rpm ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/infosys/browsers/opera/linux/1001/final/en/x86_64/opera-10.01.gcc4.shared.qt3.x86_64.rpm
Official server is better: ftp://ftp.opera.com:21/pub/opera/linux/1011/final/en/x86_64/opera-10.11.gcc4.shared.qt3.x86_64.rpm ftp://ftp.opera.com:21/pub/opera/linux/1011/final/en/i386/shared/opera-10.11.gcc4.shared.qt3.i386.rpm -- WBR Kyrill -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 18 April 2011 23:52:01 Kyrill Detinov wrote:
Official server is better:
ftp://ftp.opera.com:21/pub/opera/linux/1011/final/en/x86_64/opera-10.11.gcc 4.shared.qt3.x86_64.rpm ftp://ftp.opera.com:21/pub/opera/linux/1011/final/en/i386/shared/opera-10.1 1.gcc4.shared.qt3.i386.rpm
Thanks for pointing to the official version, but opera-10.11 does not support qt3/kde3 styles. The last versiuon that supports qt3 styles (in menu and file dialogs) is 10.01. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On 04/18/2011 05:22 PM, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
On Monday 18 April 2011 23:52:01 Kyrill Detinov wrote:
Official server is better:
ftp://ftp.opera.com:21/pub/opera/linux/1011/final/en/x86_64/opera-10.11.gcc 4.shared.qt3.x86_64.rpm ftp://ftp.opera.com:21/pub/opera/linux/1011/final/en/i386/shared/opera-10.1 1.gcc4.shared.qt3.i386.rpm
Thanks for pointing to the official version, but opera-10.11 does not support qt3/kde3 styles. The last versiuon that supports qt3 styles (in menu and file dialogs) is 10.01.
That's a bummer. Opera used to have an integer selection for kde3/Qt3 or kde4/Qt4 dialogs which I read were removed for Opera 11. The reason being they wanted to simplify the code and not maintain multiple toolset interfaces. This happened within the past year. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
Tuesday 19 April 2011 On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 02:22:43 +0400 Ilya Chernykh wrote:
but opera-10.11 does not support qt3/kde3 styles. The last versiuon that supports qt3 styles (in menu and file dialogs) is 10.01.
Opera 10.11 supports qt3/kde3 styles. http://itmages.ru/image/view/171300/27cd7213 http://itmages.ru/image/view/171301/187bea7b -- WBR Kyrill -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 19 April 2011 02:50:03 Kyrill Detinov wrote:
but opera-10.11 does not support qt3/kde3 styles. The last versiuon that supports qt3 styles (in menu and file dialogs) is 10.01.
Opera 10.11 supports qt3/kde3 styles.
http://itmages.ru/image/view/171300/27cd7213 http://itmages.ru/image/view/171301/187bea7b
It does not for me. At least, on a 64-bit system: http://storage3.static.itmages.ru/i/11/0419/h_1303167682_506353b45b.png -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On 04/18/2011 05:50 PM, Kyrill Detinov wrote:
Tuesday 19 April 2011
On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 02:22:43 +0400 Ilya Chernykh wrote:
but opera-10.11 does not support qt3/kde3 styles. The last versiuon that supports qt3 styles (in menu and file dialogs) is 10.01.
Opera 10.11 supports qt3/kde3 styles.
http://itmages.ru/image/view/171300/27cd7213 http://itmages.ru/image/view/171301/187bea7b
Yea, but Opera-11 is current :( So instead of the 'all-in-one-' browser and email package, I just stuck with firefox and tbird. (always mows the grass..) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
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