On Sunday 06 May 2012 11:08:41 am Ilya Chernykh wrote:

On Sunday 06 May 2012 12:33:50 kanenas@hawaii.rr.com wrote:

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I have been a suser since 8.something. and i loved kde-x up to and including kde3. i tried kde4 about a dozen times or so, every single time i could not stomach more than an hour of it. I stayed with 11.1 and kde3 for the longest time, my desktop still has a fully operational partition with it, but, after i found out that i could start with a simple x setup and then add kde3, i tried suse 11.4,12.1 and 12.2 up to m3. i used 12.1 for about 6 months as the main system, but kmail stopped working for me and my digital camera could not be read and the "my computer" icon on the desktop had changed to "storage media" and a number of other smaller nuances eventually convinced me to go back to 11.4, both on the laptop and the desktop. I knew the wifi on the laptop would be a little difficult, but after half a day of trying i got the broadcom wl driver all figured out, and , thanks to wicd my wifi has been proven more reliable and more capable than any windoze or mac setup. and everything works on both the laptop and the desktop, now both with 11.4 as the main os, the *only* os on the laptop.

so there is a definite divide between 12.x suse and anything previous. and kde3 seems to be less capable in anything 12.x. don't know if it is just hal, but hal is definitely a problem spot.

but yesterday i did the latest kde3 upgrade on the desktop. Three *new* things came up: 1. the haldaemon was *not* started automatically. 2. The video (latest nvidia driver for the 11.4 repo) started acting up once in a while. 3. The "my computer" icon on the desktop was renamed to "storage media" , clicking on it brings up the /media folder. I was able to restart the haldaemon and it survived a reboot, but items 2 and 3 are still bugging my 11.4 desktop. The laptop does not have *any* problems.

can someone please suggest which kde3 module(s) should be rolled back in order to resolve issues 2 && 3, or at least issue 3?

Does entering address "sysinfo://" in konqueror bring the desired info screen?

If yes, just make a link on your desktop to this location. If no, install kde3-kio_sysinfo package.

thanks, it worked, on the second try: kde3-kio_sysinfo was already installed, that icon was a working "sysinfo" icon. after your post i checked the url of the "storage media" icon, it was pointing to "media:/" changed it to "sysinfo://" (two slashes), it gave me a "malformed url" error. changed that to "sysinfo:/" (one slash), i got my old sysinfo back and the icon is again correctly named "my computer":) now i wonder how it got changed and renamed ! The name *was* "my computer" in the properties tab even when it was reading "storage media" and pointing to "media:/", but something was changing that !!!! thanks again, d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org

On Monday 07 May 2012 08:12:48 Carolin Liefke wrote:

I asked about that before, but you didn't comment on it - what happened to this package in 12.1 since it's not in the repos?

It requires hal. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org

Hi Erik, yesterday I tried to install the package from 11.4, and it does not work. There are dependencies to lower versions of hwinfo, which propagate into yast hardware detection, so it's apparently not that easy. I cannot evaluate this issue, but I guess it's not worth the effort trying to adapt the package (if this is possible at all), considering that HAL will be abandoned anyway. Cheers, Carolin

Ilya, you have put a number of packages in "HAL-enabled" repository. So if kde3-kio_sysinfo requires HAL, why would'nt it also be put into "HAL-enabled" repo, like the others? Or, should we just copy it out of the 11.4 KDE3 repo, and add it manually?

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On Sunday 06 May 2012 01:33:50 kanenas@hawaii.rr.com wrote:

so there is a definite divide between 12.x suse and anything previous. and kde3 seems to be less capable in anything 12.x. don't know if it is just hal, but hal is definitely a problem spot.

but yesterday i did the latest kde3 upgrade on the desktop. Three *new* things came up: 1. the haldaemon was *not* started automatically. 2. The video (latest nvidia driver for the 11.4 repo) started acting up once in a while. 3. The "my computer" icon on the desktop was renamed to "storage media" , clicking on it brings up the /media folder. I was able to restart the haldaemon and it survived a reboot, but items 2 and 3 are still bugging my 11.4 desktop. The laptop does not have *any* problems.

can someone please suggest which kde3 module(s) should be rolled back in order to resolve issues 2 && 3, or at least issue 3?

thanks in advance, d.

Let me suggest an alternative method. I'm running a mixed system OpenSuse 12.1 with KDE4 and KDE3 versions of KDEPIM and Konqueror. This way I get all the latest 12.1 stuff, and still get to use KDE PIM from KDE3. I just install OpenSuse 12.1 KDE4. add the KDE 3 repository and add the KDE3 desktop pattern. Then I use Yast/system and the /etc/sysconfig editor to change the display manager to KDM3 and the window manager to startkde3. Then I reboot into KDE3, make sure I can find the KDEPIM3 start Icon in the menu, as well as the KDE3 version of Konqueror. Then I reset display manager and window manager to the original versions and reboot back to KDE4. Now I have a KDE4 system with KDEPIM version 3. In either case, good luck. -- Bob Smits "The box said 'Required Windows 95 or better'. So, I installed LINUX." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org