All, I have had hangs on shutdown with kdm off and on with releases over the past decade (at least back to 11.4). When I choose "Shutdown", the desktop shuts down, X shuts down, the filesystem appears to have been properly unmounted, but then the terminal hangs and I have to resort to a hard poweroff to complete the shutdown. (I'll have to enable a persistent journal to make sure the filesystem is unmounted, but it has been on all prior shutdown hangs) I know this has been discussed somewhere before, but I can't recall where. I think this may have to do with the sequence for the X server shutdown (which opensuse triggers a restart of X after all logouts), so it may be an issue where X is both shutdown and attempting to restart, resulting in a block or hold being placed on final system shutdown. How would I drill down to figure out what is causing the hang? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org