Downloaded and installed from the "openSUSE-DVD-Build0398-i586.iso" DVD using, in the main, my 12.1 install procedure documented at: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/how-faq-forums/un... That is, a minimal X-install of IceWm-default, followed by use of factory KDE3 repo to add KDE3. I used the default Grub2 (wish I didn't) and Systemd (ditto), but disabled use of pre-built (X) images during the package selection process, based on comments I read over at the forum. Ignoring the nits (ncurses-like Grub selection screen while booting, etc), I found the following: 1. Using HAL and the HAL-enabled (factory) repo provides no value; CDs and DVDs, for example, are not recognized when inserted. Deleting HAL and the zassociated use of HAL-enabled repo (thus staying with bog-standard) works re: CD/DVD insertion recognition, even K3b works fine. So is HAL finally dead in 12.2? 2. There's something wrong with Kwrite and Kate; they hang hard shortly after getting fired up, no matter what, with or without the HAL regime. 3. 12.4 AMD Catalyst drivers don't install properly; but this is probably a matter of time. I've spoken about this before, but is there a way to use the new version (in KDE4) of KrandR which retains settings between logouts and reboots, rather than our current, old version? I really need 1024x768, and it's a pain using what we have. 4. The "Storage Media" icon on the desktop just shows the current root drive in its list, ignoring the other 4 partitions I have auto-mounted. While I am on this subject, when will we get back the use of the 11.4 (and earlier) desktop icon that gave SysInfo? If I recall, it's something to do with ?-kio-? or something? So, in the main, things seem to work fine. YMMV. I had difficulty putting "nomodeset" into the boot configuration (failed, in the end), the "Use KMS" in Yast-System-etc/sysconfig-Kernel didn't work properly, the Catalyst driver wasn't able to install properly probably because it wasn't able to build initrd properly (neither was Suse!!), all probably due to using the new Grub2 and Systemd crap. Really feels like a Milestone or Alpha quality release, not a Beta which is pre-RC. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org