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Per Jessen

28 Jan 2020 28 Jan '20

07:30

I need an opinion - I've hit a slight hurdle. The vBulletin code we are running in Provo is version 4.2.2, so quite old. It is so old it does not work with php 7.2, only older. (I haven't actually tried, that is what google tells me). I think we have three, maybe four options - a) upgrade vBulletin to the latest, cost USD249. May or may not make the migration easier, but at least we'd have an up-to-date platform. b) run the current 4.2.2 version, but on php7.0 or 7.1 - I don't know if we have packages available for Leap15.1. Might not be difficult to build. c) run the current 4.2.2 version, on Leap 42.3 with php7.0 - which I guess does not go well with our SLA. d) switch to something else, e.g. discourse. Apart from migrating the current contents, this is easy. I don't know what the forum admins would say to losing the contents. What's your vote? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (6.9°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: heroes+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: heroes+owner@opensuse.org

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Martin Caj

28 Jan 28 Jan

10:00

HI Per, Definitely not the option C] also b] cut be very problematic. The most easy way is a]. But we need to get approval from board I I think. d] is nice idea if somebody is willing to work on it and even that will take time. Martin On 28. 01. 20 8:30, Per Jessen wrote:

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I need an opinion - I've hit a slight hurdle. The vBulletin code we are running in Provo is version 4.2.2, so quite old. It is so old it does not work with php 7.2, only older. (I haven't actually tried, that is what google tells me).

I think we have three, maybe four options -

a) upgrade vBulletin to the latest, cost USD249. May or may not make the migration easier, but at least we'd have an up-to-date platform.

b) run the current 4.2.2 version, but on php7.0 or 7.1 - I don't know if we have packages available for Leap15.1. Might not be difficult to build.

c) run the current 4.2.2 version, on Leap 42.3 with php7.0 - which I guess does not go well with our SLA.

d) switch to something else, e.g. discourse. Apart from migrating the current contents, this is easy. I don't know what the forum admins would say to losing the contents.

What's your vote?

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Karol Babioch

10:04

Hi Per, Am 28.01.20 um 08:30 schrieb Per Jessen:

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a) upgrade vBulletin to the latest, cost USD249. May or may not make the migration easier, but at least we'd have an up-to-date platform.

If we want to stick with vBulletin that's the only way to go. Personally not the biggest fan of vBulletin, but also I'm not a user/admin of any bulletin board software. I'm pretty sure that we can get this amount of money (maybe from SUSE?). Also we need to make sure that a.) someone will actively "maintain" this software, i.e. apply updates b.) have access to updates (i.e. subscription or whatever will be needed).

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d) switch to something else, e.g. discourse. Apart from migrating the current contents, this is easy. I don't know what the forum admins would say to losing the contents.

Also an option, but probably more work. I know that darix is a big fan of discourse, so maybe he can help out with that. With migration it might be way more triyk than a.). Best regards, Karol Babioch

Knurpht-openSUSE

10:18

Op dinsdag 28 januari 2020 08:30:38 CET schreef Per Jessen:

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I need an opinion - I've hit a slight hurdle. The vBulletin code we are running in Provo is version 4.2.2, so quite old. It is so old it does not work with php 7.2, only older. (I haven't actually tried, that is what google tells me).

I think we have three, maybe four options -

a) upgrade vBulletin to the latest, cost USD249. May or may not make the migration easier, but at least we'd have an up-to-date platform.

b) run the current 4.2.2 version, but on php7.0 or 7.1 - I don't know if we have packages available for Leap15.1. Might not be difficult to build.

c) run the current 4.2.2 version, on Leap 42.3 with php7.0 - which I guess does not go well with our SLA.

d) switch to something else, e.g. discourse. Apart from migrating the current contents, this is easy. I don't know what the forum admins would say to losing the contents.

What's your vote? I'll ask the other mods/admins from the forums to join this discussion. Question: Do you by now have a database dump from Provo ?

-- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: heroes+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: heroes+owner@opensuse.org

Per Jessen

10:27

Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:

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Op dinsdag 28 januari 2020 08:30:38 CET schreef Per Jessen: [anip]

I'll ask the other mods/admins from the forums to join this discussion. Question: Do you by now have a database dump from Provo ?

No, I still don't have a database dump - but Gerald and Marta are "on the case". -- Per Jessen, Zürich (6.2°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: heroes+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: heroes+owner@opensuse.org

Guo Yunhe

11:06

openSUSE China forum has migrated from phpbb to Discourse. Discourse itself is great with a lot of features and better experience. But installing it without docker is a challenge. Another option of PHP is Flarum. It is designed even better than Discourse. But it is still in beta version. -- Guo Yunhe / @guoyunhe / guoyunhe.me 2020年1月28日 09:30 来自 per@opensuse.org:

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I need an opinion - I've hit a slight hurdle. The vBulletin code we are running in Provo is version 4.2.2, so quite old. It is so old it does not work with php 7.2, only older. (I haven't actually tried, that is what google tells me).

I think we have three, maybe four options -

a) upgrade vBulletin to the latest, cost USD249. May or may not make the migration easier, but at least we'd have an up-to-date platform.

b) run the current 4.2.2 version, but on php7.0 or 7.1 - I don't know if we have packages available for Leap15.1. Might not be difficult to build.

c) run the current 4.2.2 version, on Leap 42.3 with php7.0 - which I guess does not go well with our SLA.

d) switch to something else, e.g. discourse. Apart from migrating the current contents, this is easy. I don't know what the forum admins would say to losing the contents.

What's your vote?

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Marcus Rückert

30 Jan 30 Jan

17:18

On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 12:06:57 +0100 (CET) Guo Yunhe wrote:

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openSUSE China forum has migrated from phpbb to Discourse. Discourse itself is great with a lot of features and better experience. But installing it without docker is a challenge.

Another option of PHP is Flarum. It is designed even better than Discourse. But it is still in beta version.

we have opensuse packages for discourse. run in production on openSUSE https://discuss.pixls.us/ -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: heroes+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: heroes+owner@opensuse.org

Malcolm

28 Jan 28 Jan

12:20

On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 08:30:38 +0100 Per Jessen wrote:

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I need an opinion - I've hit a slight hurdle. The vBulletin code we are running in Provo is version 4.2.2, so quite old. It is so old it does not work with php 7.2, only older. (I haven't actually tried, that is what google tells me).

I think we have three, maybe four options -

a) upgrade vBulletin to the latest, cost USD249. May or may not make the migration easier, but at least we'd have an up-to-date platform.

b) run the current 4.2.2 version, but on php7.0 or 7.1 - I don't know if we have packages available for Leap15.1. Might not be difficult to build.

c) run the current 4.2.2 version, on Leap 42.3 with php7.0 - which I guess does not go well with our SLA.

d) switch to something else, e.g. discourse. Apart from migrating the current contents, this is easy. I don't know what the forum admins would say to losing the contents.

What's your vote?

Hi From my perspective, the software to use is something you folks are happy to maintain etc, but if we are voting (and secure funding) then it would be (a) just for continuity's sake :) What about the user logins (~40K), will the users need to login to the openSUSE SSO solution? Will this SSO integrate with vB? If the solution decided by you folks is not vB, I'm also assuming the current data can be available as a read only vB archive in it's final state.... -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) Tumbleweed 20200125 | GNOME Shell 3.34.3 | 5.4.13-1-default Intel DQ77MK MB | Xeon E3-1245 V2 X8 @ 3.40 GHz | Intel/Nvidia up 1 day 13:05, 2 users, load average: 0.28, 0.27, 0.55 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: heroes+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: heroes+owner@opensuse.org

Per Jessen

12:45

Malcolm wrote:

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Hi From my perspective, the software to use is something you folks are happy to maintain etc, but if we are voting (and secure funding) then it would be (a) just for continuity's sake :)

There are really two sides to it - 1) keep the Forums running, but in Nuernberg instead of Provo, hopefully enabling an overall better experience for everyone. 2) optionally moving to a more able/moderm/safe/pretty platform. My main focus is (1). I had hoped to just copy everything across, but the PHP version support is a real problem.

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What about the user logins (~40K), will the users need to login to the openSUSE SSO solution? Will this SSO integrate with vB?

I have no such plans, no.

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If the solution decided by you folks is not vB, I'm also assuming the current data can be available as a read only vB archive in it's final state....

I really don't know - we cannot run the vB software we have, it's just too old. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (9.8°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: heroes+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: heroes+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

12:56

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