[opensuse-gnome] Clarify Control Center and reorganize Menu Bar and Traditional Gnome Main Menu.
Hi all. I noticed and realized that the Control Center contains double items in System module. 1) The first is Add/remove software - gnome-packagekit-application, which is package manager for Gnome and the second is Install/remove software - YaST software manager. After overall review i can't see any benefit of package manager for Gnome-gpk-application. So my question is, why do we have double software/package manager in the system? 2) Detto for Software Sources. Do we need this item in Control Center, forasmuch as we can manage repositories in YaST-Software repositories, or in YaST-Software manager? 3) And the last items are Software update/Software updates. In the first we can only install updates and the second is used for update settings. Is it possible to merge these items in one? KDE users have Kupdatepplet, which allows update and change software update preferences. They need not use two different application, one for updates and one for update settings. 4) Next things are Menu Bar (a custom menu bar) and Traditional Gnome Main Menu. Honestly, these menus are big mess in openSUSE. I'm trying Ubuntu nowadays, an i have to say that Ubuntu's Menu Bar is clean, without double items. E.g. openSUSE's Menu Bar: Click on Applications -> System -> Configuration and you can see a batch/mixture of hardware, personal or system items. The same items are available also in System -> Hardware, Personal or System. Or, take a look in Applications -> Utilities -> Desktop and the same is in System -> Look and feel. For clarify what i mean, you can see it on screenshots in attachment. -- S pozdravom / Best regards, Rasto
This is all related to the fact that we use a weird /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu, which also forces us to change Categories in .desktop files. I've been willing to stop this situation for a while, without having time to properly fix it. Help is welcome; the first thing to do would be to discuss with the KDE team if they're happy with the current applications.menu or if something like what upstream GNOME ships (available as gnome-applications.menu on openSUSE) would be okay for them. This is slightly related to https://features.opensuse.org/308475 Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
Hi! I did not see this discussion and filed bug https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=595912 today. I suggest that at least for 11.3, we can try and manually blacklist items already in the control-centre from appearing in the application-browser. That should prevent the most ugly duplications. Of course, if applications.menu can be made better by the release time, that would be the best thing to do. On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 22:16 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
This is all related to the fact that we use a weird /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu, which also forces us to change Categories in .desktop files.
I've been willing to stop this situation for a while, without having time to properly fix it. Help is welcome; the first thing to do would be to discuss with the KDE team if they're happy with the current applications.menu or if something like what upstream GNOME ships (available as gnome-applications.menu on openSUSE) would be okay for them.
This is slightly related to https://features.opensuse.org/308475
Vincent
-- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés.
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On a perhaps related note, there is also this renaming "YaST" to "Administrator Settings" business and https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=380665
On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 22:16 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
This is all related to the fact that we use a weird /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu, which also forces us to change Categories in .desktop files.
I've been willing to stop this situation for a while, without having time to properly fix it. Help is welcome; the first thing to do would be to discuss with the KDE team if they're happy with the current applications.menu or if something like what upstream GNOME ships (available as gnome-applications.menu on openSUSE) would be okay for them.
This is slightly related to https://features.opensuse.org/308475
Vincent
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2010-04-12 21:47, Rastislav Krupanský wrote: ...
For clarify what i mean, you can see it on screenshots in attachment.
Suggerence: next time, upload the photos to http://picpaste.com/ or equivalent. This way listers with bandwidth limitations don't have to download such big emails :-) - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREIAAYFAkvEPxsACgkQja8UbcUWM1wd2QEAoPFvGYTznqQnU82pO5jur0Aq orWLjYDzaH9gMjYcAlgA/3GGjKNS9TTf1VAKEJuL57clOIH7fhiC2dP43TET+Np0 =o7OC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
Dňa Tue, 13 Apr 2010 00:31:48 +0300 Atri Bhattacharya
Hi! I did not see this discussion and filed bug https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=595912
today. I suggest that at least for 11.3, we can try and manually blacklist items already in the control-centre from appearing in the application-browser. That should prevent the most ugly duplications. Of course, if applications.menu can be made better by the release time, that would be the best thing to do.
On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 22:16 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
This is all related to the fact that we use a weird /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu, which also forces us to change Categories in .desktop files.
I've been willing to stop this situation for a while, without having time to properly fix it. Help is welcome; the first thing to do would be to discuss with the KDE team if they're happy with the current applications.menu or if something like what upstream GNOME ships (available as gnome-applications.menu on openSUSE) would be okay for them.
This is slightly related to https://features.opensuse.org/308475
Vincent
-- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés.
Ok guys. How can we as common users help (with no build, or devel. skills)? This situation with duplicates in Control Center, Menu Bar or Traditional Gnome Main Menu really irritates me. -- S pozdravom / Best regards, Rasto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
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Atri Bhattacharya -
Carlos E. R. -
Rastislav Krupanský -
Vincent Untz