[opensuse-gnome] Remove Tracker in 12.1?
Hi All, Along the same vein as the decision to include Shotwell by default,I would like to propose the removal of Tracker from the default GNOME installation pattern in 12.1 Unlike previous versions, tracker is no longer well integrated into GNOME - it is not used by the gnome-shell search which largely replaces the SLAB search from our G2. Desktop indexers also do not appear to be as popular as they once were (Google Desktop is being pulled, etc) Desktop indexers can be horrific drains on performance, I think if we remove tracker from our default 12.1 install any newcomers will be pleasantly surprised at the performance improvements Of course, I'd still like it in the repositories - so people can install if they want and upgraders can keep their tracker functionality Thoughts? Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
Hi, Le lundi 19 septembre 2011, à 10:50 +0100, Richard Brown a écrit :
Hi All,
Along the same vein as the decision to include Shotwell by default,I would like to propose the removal of Tracker from the default GNOME installation pattern in 12.1
Unlike previous versions, tracker is no longer well integrated into GNOME - it is not used by the gnome-shell search which largely replaces the SLAB search from our G2.
Desktop indexers also do not appear to be as popular as they once were (Google Desktop is being pulled, etc)
Desktop indexers can be horrific drains on performance, I think if we remove tracker from our default 12.1 install any newcomers will be pleasantly surprised at the performance improvements
Of course, I'd still like it in the repositories - so people can install if they want and upgraders can keep their tracker functionality
Thoughts?
Actually, GNOME is moving towards using more of tracker :-) There's gnome-documents (which is only in my branch), which is what GNOME will push hard to help people find their documents. And it's based on tracker. Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On 09/19/2011 11:58 AM, Vincent Untz wrote:
Actually, GNOME is moving towards using more of tracker :-) There's gnome-documents (which is only in my branch), which is what GNOME will push hard to help people find their documents. And it's based on tracker.
Also it seems the performance drain issue might get fixed soon - https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659422 -- Best Regards / S pozdravom, Pavol RUSNAK SUSE LINUX, s.r.o openSUSE Boosters Team Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xA6917144 19000 Praha 9 prusnak[at]opensuse.org Czech Republic -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2011-09-19 at 10:50 +0100, Richard Brown wrote:
Hi All, Along the same vein as the decision to include Shotwell by default,I
Well, I -1 the Shotwell switch too, so you might just discard my opinion.
would like to propose the removal of Tracker from the default GNOME installation pattern in 12.1
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Unlike previous versions, tracker is no longer well integrated into GNOME -
This is just a temporary thing; upstream is working on Tracker integration.
Desktop indexers also do not appear to be as popular as they once were (Google Desktop is being pulled, etc)
-1 What are you stats? I use Tracker every day. Desktop-Search seems like a "Duh!" to me given GNOME3's focus on workflow. I love not having to tediously organize all my documents. I created a folder called "Library". Whenever I find something useful I dump it in there and use Tracker to search later - this is *WAY* more efficient than searching the intrawebz and sorting through all that pointless noise.
Desktop indexers can be horrific drains on performance,
-1, I suppose they *can* be. But Tracker isn't; at least not if configured correctly. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On Monday, September 19, 2011 04:50:58 AM Richard Brown wrote:
Hi All,
Along the same vein as the decision to include Shotwell by default,I would like to propose the removal of Tracker from the default GNOME installation pattern in 12.1
How about not assuming that people want, or don't want indexing, but asking them (for a change)? Small paragraph explaining that indexing is disabled, then advantages and disadvantages of using indexing. Print it out when user access function that uses indexer. I can bet that our users running average to low power machines, with CPU or/and IO as bottlenecks, will appreciate being considerate and asking instead of pushing. It is just that average desktop computer has only one hard disk, so having tracker indexing in one sector and user asking for data few sectors farther, will be noticeable slowdown in some configurations, specially those that include older computers which is my humble where new Linux users try "that Linux" to see what it is. Also, make possible to turn off question about enabling indexing; for those that know how to use grep and don't plan to have that running all the time.
Desktop indexers also do not appear to be as popular as they once were (Google Desktop is being pulled, etc)
Google Desktop search being pushed in background has a different reason, Google is all about cloud, not desktop, but we have a lot of people that have allergy to desktop search since beagle.
Desktop indexers can be horrific drains on performance, I think if we remove tracker from our default 12.1 install any newcomers will be pleasantly surprised at the performance improvements
Right to some extent, not every desktop is affected equally. It is nice to have things indexed, but computer resembling Vista will not compete with Windows 7, it is that simple.
Of course, I'd still like it in the repositories - so people can install if they want and upgraders can keep their tracker functionality
I would install it so that is available as soon as people ask for it, but not enable it by default. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
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