[opensuse-gnome] package\selector
Guys, I really think that the default for the gnome gtk package selector view should be "in patterns" because none of us jr. geeks knows how to choose all the dependencies for anything. starting with patterns as a default lets me go to "web and Lamp" and add perl support for instance. This adds continuity to the process of finding software in both the "more applications" menu and the package selector. --. James Tremblay Director of Technology Newmarket School District 213 S. Main st Newmarket NH, 03857 603-659-3271 *318 CNE 3,4,5 MCSE w2k CLE in training Registered Linux user #440182 http://en.opensuse.org/educationk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
James,
Thanks for the feedback. I think you may be on to something. Most
people who aren't familiar with the individual package names are going
to have a really hard time finding a piece of software without seeing
some sort of category separation. I don't see a reason we shouldn't
automatically help out the user by arranging them in the patterns.
Anyone else care to also jump on this band-wagon? :)
-Boyd
On 10/9/07, James Tremblay
Guys, I really think that the default for the gnome gtk package selector view should be "in patterns" because none of us jr. geeks knows how to choose all the dependencies for anything. starting with patterns as a default lets me go to "web and Lamp" and add perl support for instance. This adds continuity to the process of finding software in both the "more applications" menu and the package selector. --. James Tremblay Director of Technology Newmarket School District 213 S. Main st Newmarket NH, 03857 603-659-3271 *318 CNE 3,4,5 MCSE w2k CLE in training Registered Linux user #440182 http://en.opensuse.org/educationk
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On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 00:19 -0400, Boyd Timothy wrote:
Thanks for the feedback. I think you may be on to something. Most people who aren't familiar with the individual package names are going to have a really hard time finding a piece of software without seeing some sort of category separation. I don't see a reason we shouldn't automatically help out the user by arranging them in the patterns.
Anyone else care to also jump on this band-wagon? :)
+1 For 10.2 / 10.3 we made a big push in improving the patterns (e.g. making sure that the "GNOME Development" pattern really has everything you need to do development), but they can certainly be further improved. Is there a bug about changing the default view to use patterns? I'd like to add it to the bug list. Federico -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 22:20 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 00:19 -0400, Boyd Timothy wrote:
Thanks for the feedback. I think you may be on to something. Most people who aren't familiar with the individual package names are going to have a really hard time finding a piece of software without seeing some sort of category separation. I don't see a reason we shouldn't automatically help out the user by arranging them in the patterns.
Anyone else care to also jump on this band-wagon? :)
+1
For 10.2 / 10.3 we made a big push in improving the patterns (e.g. making sure that the "GNOME Development" pattern really has everything you need to do development), but they can certainly be further improved.
Is there a bug about changing the default view to use patterns? I'd like to add it to the bug list.
Federico
Could a change like this just be added to a patch? -- James Tremblay Director of Technology Newmarket School District 213 S. Main st Newmarket NH, 03857 603-659-3271 *318 CNE 3,4,5 MCSE w2k CLE in training Registered Linux user #440182 http://en.opensuse.org/Education Good things to read! http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On 10/10/07, James Tremblay
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 22:20 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 00:19 -0400, Boyd Timothy wrote:
Thanks for the feedback. I think you may be on to something. Most people who aren't familiar with the individual package names are going to have a really hard time finding a piece of software without seeing some sort of category separation. I don't see a reason we shouldn't automatically help out the user by arranging them in the patterns.
Anyone else care to also jump on this band-wagon? :)
+1
For 10.2 / 10.3 we made a big push in improving the patterns (e.g. making sure that the "GNOME Development" pattern really has everything you need to do development), but they can certainly be further improved.
Is there a bug about changing the default view to use patterns? I'd like to add it to the bug list.
Federico
Could a change like this just be added to a patch?
Possibly. It depends on how many people would vote for the bug, etc. Will you enter it into bugzilla. We'll put it on the bug list in the wiki and it will get more attention. -Boyd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 23:38 -0400, James Tremblay wrote:
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 22:20 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
Is there a bug about changing the default view to use patterns? I'd like to add it to the bug list. Could a change like this just be added to a patch?
Sure, we just need someone to actually write the patch :) Federico -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
Hi, The sw_single.ycp module is the one that requests yast-gtk/qt/ncurses the default view. As it is, installer's default view is the patterns; in the desktop, the search. If you guys want to ignore it, modify on YGPackageSelector.cc: - m_package_selector = new PackageSelector (!opt.searchMode.value()); + m_package_selector = new PackageSelector (true); I think this should be changed at the YCP level, since it allows people to modify the default, if they don't like it, without compiling code. So, the change would be on /usr/share/YaST2/clients/inst_packages.ycp: + result = detailedSelection( `searchMode ); - result = detailedSelection( nil ); I personally think the more newbie friendly view is the Categories one (even though it needs a re-work on yast-gtk). The groups have easy to browse names, and it has all the software there. Btw, changing views is pretty fast at yast-gtk on svn. I'm not even sure if it worths to come up with our own storage at this point. Cheers, Ricardo Qua, 2007-10-10 às 22:20 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero escreveu:
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 00:19 -0400, Boyd Timothy wrote:
Thanks for the feedback. I think you may be on to something. Most people who aren't familiar with the individual package names are going to have a really hard time finding a piece of software without seeing some sort of category separation. I don't see a reason we shouldn't automatically help out the user by arranging them in the patterns.
Anyone else care to also jump on this band-wagon? :)
+1
For 10.2 / 10.3 we made a big push in improving the patterns (e.g. making sure that the "GNOME Development" pattern really has everything you need to do development), but they can certainly be further improved.
Is there a bug about changing the default view to use patterns? I'd like to add it to the bug list.
Federico
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