On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:47:00 +0100
"Richard Brown"
Hi All,
During the GNOME 3.0 discussions at oSC, the issue of limited access to shutdown & hibernate commands came up during the session.
I suggested the idea of using the gnome-shell-extension-alt-status-menu by default to give our users Shutdown and Hibernate alongside Suspend in their status menu.
At the time, two valid points were made in the defence of keeping our GNOME 3.x installation the same as upstream To paraphrase, they were "Suspend by default makes perfect sense for laptops" and "The ACPI power button works and gives the user opportunity to shutdown"
Based on this discussion, my suggestion was to look into the possibility of having the extension installed by default but only on desktops.
Atri/badshah400 and others have been helping but this is proving to be rather difficult, with dirty hacks or purposefully causing package conflicts being the only two 'solutions' which should work, neither of which are any good.
Furthermore, GNOME 3.2 has changed the situation - the power button's default behaviour is now to suspend, and unlike in gnome 3.0 there is no user-accessible way for this change.
This means we are heading towards a 12.1 release with no easy way for our GNOME 3.2 users to shutdown or hibernate their machine.
I therefore propose adding gnome-shell-extension-alt-status-menu to our default patterns
Suspend will still be highly prominent, still available in the status menu and will remain as the default behaviour for lid close (changeable in tweak-tool) and upon ACPI power button (with no easy way of changing)
Time is getting short so vuntz suggests we have a deadline of Tuesday to discuss this.. please say yes, or have really good arguments for why not! :)
Richard Brown openSUSE Member (woo!)
Hi My vote is for No. Shutdown is still there via the alt key? Why, all the shell extensions will move to be user based via the sweettooth browser plugin and won't be installed system wide. Trouble is there is no time line for this to happen :( so in the interim users will install, however the site may/may not be live by release time. My other thought was maybe if you decide to install that it's offered as a pullin script like flash after the install is complete, might be easier to remove from the patterns? I guess we need to work out once the sweettooth plugin system is available, how it would be installed...? -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE 11.4 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.37.6-0.7-desktop up 1 day 0:25, 5 users, load average: 0.30, 0.37, 0.30 GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - Driver Version: 285.05.09 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner@opensuse.org