Le lundi 28 juillet 2008, à 16:51 -0500, Alberto Passalacqua a écrit :
I will sum up the main problems I think contributed to this situation about DE's in openSUSE:
- GNOME is constantly released in a untested "beta state" in the final release of openSUSE, with evident bugs (read memory leaks, not working apps). Patches to these issues are released after long time, leaving the user with problems. This gives the sensation that the team considers openSUSE simply as a beta product to experiment with, where the last idea and the last application can be pushed, while the KDE team doesn't do that. Examples: yast-gtk, PulseAudio, package-kit, tasque, main-menu (in 10.3 it was a disaster with the memory leak, and people doesn't forget so quickly).
I'd love to know what's from 10.3 (or earlier) and what's from 11.0 here.
- GNOME is bloated in openSUSE, causing major performance issues compared to other distributions (see Fedora).
I'm sorry, but each time you say that, I wonder why. I see no major performance difference here. And I'm looking at other distros.
- Problems are patched too slowly compared to other DE's. It takes months or almost a release cycle to have (if ever) the major bugs fixed, while other distributions do this in about one month. One clear example are Fedora and Ubuntu: they released with PulseAudio in a clearly worse state than openSUSE, yet they fixed it quickly. OpenSUSE has some minor problems and are almost all still there.
I guess it depends -- maybe we're slower for PA, but maybe we're faster for other things (and I actually think we are in some cases). But point taken. The new bug triage policy should help with that (since we're giving sense to priority). What could make sense too is to send some weekly summary of the urgent things to fix for a stable release so people can easily know what is needed and help. Would you or anybody else want to help with that? Also, one thing which is still surprising for me (keep in mind I'm new here ;-)) is that it's really hard to get updates out for a stable release. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org