Hi all,
I guess it makes sense to send a quick mail about all this before the
meeting. We'll be able to discuss all this if needed during the meeting.
G:F status
==========
GNOME:Factory has GNOME 2.26.0 (except for anjuta and sound-juicer, I
believe). The build against Factory itself should be finished before the
meeting (actually, it might be finished before I'm done with this mail).
The build against 11.1 will take a bit longer, but it seems it might be
done in the next few hours too.
Here's the list of packages we need to update:
+ epiphany/metacity: we have 2.26.0, but there are already some 2.27
tarballs. We block them for the moment.
+ g-wrap/libmcs: I filed drop requests.
+ NetworkManager and friends: we have permission from Tambet to update
them, but it might be non-trivial :-)
+ abiword: just appeared. It shouldn't be hard, except that I think we
should split abiword-plugins in its own package. There's no real
point in having both tarballs there, I think
+ gnome-do: shouldn't be hard. Any gnome-do enthusiast? I also saw that
there's a gnome-do-plugins tarball that we might want to package.
+ gnome-phone-manager: Magnus is working on it, iirc.
+ gnucash: same.
+ gobby: we have submissions for this. Help to review libinfinity is
welcome, since it ships with a system daemon and I don't trust my
review abilities for this...
+ gstreamer-0_10-plugins-farsight: I'm blocking this for now, since
some plugins were moved to gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad, but we need a
new upstream release of gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad for them.
+ libwebkit: any volunteer? Else, I might give it a try...
+ monsoon: I think it requires monotorrent, or something like this.
Someone should look at that.
+ rhythmbox: just appeared. Let me take it :-)
osc gnome news
==============
While waiting for GNOME 2.26.0 to build (locally in my jhbuild, and in
the build service for packages), I worked a bit on osc gnome to bring
two new things:
+ the first one is self-explanatory:
osc gnome todo --project GNOME:STABLE:2.24
Yes. We can use osc gnome with GNOME:STABLE!
For now, the todo command will only list packages that are part of
the official GNOME release. If we want to update other packages,
it's possible with some small work.
+ the second one is that osc gnome is now completely independent from
oS:F and G:F: those projects are not used anywhere anymore in the
code (except for the default values, which people can easily change).
This means the plugin is getting more and more ready to conquer the
world ;-)
It's all in the git repo right now, and if it works fine after a few
days, I'll update the osc-plugins-gnome package in openSUSE:Tools.
Note that I need to change a bit the way reservations work so that they
are per-project. Right now, if you reserve gnome-panel in G:F, it will
also mark it as reserved in G:S:2.24, which is obviously wrong. I'll fix
this before next week (I might have time for it tonight)
GNOME:STABLE
============
With osc gnome working with GNOME:STABLE, it's now possible to easily
update everything that needs to be updated in GNOME:STABLE.
There are some questions to discuss (the meeting sounds like a good time
for that):
+ creation of G:S:2.26: when? And when it's created, should we move G:F
to 2.27?
+ what kind of package updates go in. I think it doesn't make sense to
do work on cleaning the packaging (this is something that should be
done in G:F) unless it fixes a bug. So I propose to only package new
upstream versions, or add patches to fix bugs.
+ handling of security issues: if there's a security update for 11.1,
we need to make sure the relevant patch also appears in G:S. How can
we do this?
Vincent
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Well, we've been experimenting with best times for our weekly meetings
for the openSUSE-GNOME Team, and *hopefully* we've found our sweet spot.
This week's meeting will be held at the new time of 19:00 UTC on
Thursday, March 19th, 2009 in the #opensuse-gnome channel on the
Freenode network. This will be the permanent time for us (i.e., no more
timeshifted meetings)
This week, we'll be continuing JPR's proposal for core team maintainers.
It should be a good discussion.
Also, GNOME 2.26 has been released and is about to be in GNOME:Factory.
We'll be discussing plans for the next step (2.27) going into Factory.
Special kudos goes to Magnus (captain_magnus) and Luis (metalgod) for
their hard work getting this done. You know, we were supposed to have a
packaging day organized for this week, but those guys actually finished
most the work ahead of time!
And of course, we'll have the great policy review session from Vuntz.
He's always bringing up interesting topics for us to think about.
So see you all at the meeting. New time and hopefully permanent time!
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Hello,
Since we have 8 months before the 11.2 release, would it be possible to
compile a list with the top 5 most annoying things in GNOME/openSUSE and
try to fix them? We obviously need to be realistic about these goals.
Issues might include stuff like, "Panel should be at the top of the
screen", "We should use the default GNOME menu", "Tomboy should not be
started by default" etc? Other annoying things might not be as simple as
I just mentioned but, you get the idea...
Also, please don't include PA in this discussion... It's being
discussed/fixed elsewhere :-)
Cheers,
Magnus
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Hi
These are the meeting minutes from the openSUSE-GNOME Team on
05-March-2009:
* 11.2 planning:
-The Team agreed with shipping GNOME 2.28 for this release
still we need to have some hard work to get everything in time
because we have to break feature freeze for 11.2.
* Random Bugs:
- We stated that we should remove ggreeter from GNOME and write
a new application called "About openSUSE" or "About My Computer"
in order to give the same information without spamming the user
at the first boot.
- Discussed Pulseaudio problems, sreeves is doing his best to fix
as much bugs as possible by providing packages with and without
Glitch Free.
* GNOME:Factory Status:
- The current GNOME:Factory repository contains the latest GNOME 2.25.92
(release candidate). There's just a few minor issues but it's ready to
be used (it was already migrated for oS:F and build for 11.1).
- The Team also agreed that some package specs needs to be cleaned.
- Also there are some packages that needs to be removed from G:F such as
eel, ncb and probably a few others.
* Mailing List Threads:
- Nautilus-cd-burner removal: There are patches in upstream for f-spot
and recently Rhythmbox start using Brasero (replacement for n-c-b).
Luis
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Hey all,
Quick status update about GNOME:Factory:
+ G:F has GNOME 2.25.92
+ it's nearly up-to-date wrt upstream versions. There are 18 packages
for which we are late:
- 2 already submitted packages (pidgin, gnome-bluetooth), needing a
review
- 1 package blocking on the gnome-bluetooth update
(gnome-phone-manager)
- 5 reserved packages (gnome-icon-theme, gnome-packagekit, gthumb,
ldtp, sound-juicer)
- 2 packages that I think we should just drop (g-wrap, libmcs)
- gobby which is hard. There's actually an update available in
another project (see bug #473320), so if someone can look at it,
that'd be great
- NetworkManager and NetworkManager-gnome that, I think, most people
just leave to Tambet. But Tambet welcomes help here :-) There are
many patches (most of them are upstream now), so it might be
difficult.
- gstreamer-0_10-plugins-farsight which is weird because we have to
patch the tarball. I know it stopped me from updating it...
- gnome-power-manager, gnucash, nautilus, qtcurve-gtk2: all waiting
for an update. I will actually do nautilus and qtcurve-gtk2 right
now ;-)
+ everything builds fine (and should install fine) on both 11.1 and
Factory, except:
- evolution-sharp: doesn't build because eds is too recent. We need
a new upstream version, or a small patch (that should be trivial)
- beagle-index: doesn't build on factory because the Xvnc has been
disabled at the moment in factory
+ I pushed everything (125 updated packages) to openSUSE:Factory a few
minutes ago
Vincent
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Hey,
I have updated in GNOME:Community file-browser-applet to 6.0.1. and
pidgin to 2.5.5.
I had to disable the nonblocking patches because they are no longer
applying cleanly. I have no idea what's the story of those patches is
but if someone wants to step up and update them and re-enable them -
you are welcome.
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Hi
I want to inform that the team agreed have the meeting tomorrow, March 5
at 17h UTC and NOT at 22h UTC that was planed last week.
Cheers
Luis
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Hi
For GNOME 2.26, nautilus-cd-burner as been marked deprecated[1] in
favor of Brasero.
Currently G:F has 3 packages depending on it, rhythmbox, f-spot and
gnome-python-desktop.
For rhythmbox[2] and f-spot[3] there is a patch on upstream waiting to
be reviewed and commited to the tree.
As for gnome-python-desktop there are also bindings for brasero in
development and the current ncb
bindings could be disabled.
So should we keep ncb in G:F until 2.28, remove it or move it to G:C ?
Luis
[1] - http://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2009-January/msg00067.html
[2] - http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=536732
[3] - http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=569413
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I will not be able to attend this Thursday's meeting. If anyone wishes
to moderate the meeting on Thursday, please speak up now. :-)
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>>> Vincent Untz <vuntz(a)opensuse.org> 02/28/09 10:42 AM >>>
> http://tmp.vuntz.net/opensuse-packages/rpmlint.py?type=non-utf8-spec-file
There is a problem with fixing this warning. Most of the non-utf8-ness comes from
the "Authors" list in the spec file. So, even if we fix it in our local/G:F repos, when
it is submitted to oS:F, that fix just gets discarded as the PDB entry for the
"Authors" list takes precedence.
Any idea how we can avoid that (besides attempting to change the PDB entry
itself)?
-Suman
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