openSUSE GNOME October 2008

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[opensuse-gnome] Reminder: G:C to Contrib Meeting today
by Bryen 22 Oct '08

22 Oct '08

Just a quick reminder to everyone that there is a meeting today in the #opensuse-gnome IRC channel to discuss the migration of packages from GNOME:Community repository to Contrib repository and to get volunteers to participate in this great project. The meeting is today at 22:00 UTC in #opensuse-gnome channel. See you all there, the more the merrier! -- Bryen Yunashko Proud 2008 Candidate for openSUSE Board -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Dropping gnome-volume-manager?
by Vincent Untz 21 Oct '08

21 Oct '08

Hi, I'd like to discuss what to do with gnome-volume-manager. Some background: since GNOME 2.22, most of the interesting stuff (like mounting disks) that g-v-m did has been moved to nautilus upstream. So if you look at the current g-v-m, it's now playing a few roles. Most of them are not that useful. Here's the list of more or less useful: + display a notification when there's not enough disk space. + launch kino when plugging a video camera. => we don't install kino by default... But I can see how this could be useful. + do some stuff when palm and/or pocketpc are plugged. => this is disabled right now. Maybe it makes sense to keep this, though? + launch the configuration tool for printer when a printer could not automatically => this can be moved elsewhere (the system-config-printer applet, and that's what will actually happen if we move to hal-cups-utils) + display a notification when a new printer has been configured => same stuff (system-config-printer applet, etc.) + launch a configuration tool when plugging a scanner => shouldn't this just work now? Here's a list of things that it does but are useless or that should live elsewhere IMHO: + launch f-spot when plugging a camera. => deprecated: nautilus does this now. + launch cheese when plugging a webcam => this is disabled by default, and I doubt that it's what people want to happen everytime (would be annoying if this happens each time I want to use ekiga, eg) + launch something when a mouse/keyboard/tablet is plugged => if we still need this, then we should really fix X. Also, the g-v-m capplet is confusing, see: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=379477 So based on all this, I can see two ways forward for 11.1: a) completely drop gnome-volume-manager. We need to make sure that all the features are moved elsewhere, though. b) hide the capplet, hard-code most settings to FALSE and only keep what's interesting to us. I'd love to be able to do a), but it might be more reasonable to do b) now. Opinions? Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] New osc gnome features
by Vincent Untz 21 Oct '08

21 Oct '08

Hi, Just to let everyone know about the latest cool new stuff in osc gnome: Support for multiple projects ============================= osc gnome was initially created to handle the packages in GNOME:Factory. However, it quickly appeared that people wanted to hack on other projects, like X11:Compiz or X11:common:Factory. There's now a --project option to specify which project you want to use. You can alternatively specify the project in ~/.oscrc with the gnome_projects setting. But the magic is that you can specify multiple projects. Eg, I have this line in my ~/.oscrc: gnome_projects = GNOME:Factory;X11:common:Factory; osc gnome will use the most appropriate project when required, or use all projects in "osc gnome todo", eg. Only GNOME:Factory, X11:Compiz and X11:common:Factory are supported right now. If you need an additional repository, just mail me -- it's just a small configuration change in the database creation. Forwarding packages to oS:F =========================== This is for lazy project admins. When you review a package submitted to G:F (or another project), sometimes you want to accept it and forward it to oS:F. So you end up with the following: osc sr accept $id osc sr create [-m message] $project $package openSUSE:Factory Now, you can just do : osc gnome forward $id Note: it will take the message from the submitted request and use it as the message for the request to oS:F. Fire and forget: buildsubmit ============================ Probably the best thing since sliced bread. Before submitting a new package to G:F (or another project), it's important to be sure that it builds fine. This implies either building locally, waiting, committing, and submitting, or committing, waiting for the build on the build service and submitting. The thing is that you have to not forget about the package during the "wait" step. Here comes "osc gnome buildsubmit". This command commits things that need to be committed, waits for the build to happen on the build service, and if the build is successful on i586 and x86_64, it will create a submit request to G:F (or the right project). A typical workflow is: osc gnome setup libwnck # or: osc gnome update libwnck cd libwnck # Do all the changes you want to do. With "osc gnome update", this # might just be updating the libwnck.changes file based on the # osc-gnome.NEWS file. osc buildsubmit -m 'Fix stuff' # You can press enter to see the status of the build. # If everything builds, you're done! # If there's an error, you get a message explaining what's wrong. Note that the message given with -m will be used as the commit message and the submitreq message. So, yeah. Fire and forget. Note: if you have disabled the build of packages in your branches on the build service (good thing to do, to help save the world), buildsubmit will automatically enable the build for this specific package, wait for the build to finish (succeed or fail) and disable the build again. I'd love to see someone step up and update the wiki page with some documentation [1] about all this :-) Else, I'll try to find some time to do it. Vincent [1] http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/OscGnome -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Need testing: print stack
by Vincent Untz 21 Oct '08

21 Oct '08

Hi, For various reasons, I'm seriously considering parts of our print stack that nobody else uses (namely cups-autoconfig) and adopt hal-cups-utils (used in Fedora & Ubuntu, at least). Okay, I guess I can list a few reasons: + actually maintained + used by other distros, so probably easier to get fixes for "free" + (related to the previous items: use the exact same stack as others, which is better for everybody in the long term) + seems to cover the exact same role + integrates with system-config-printer to display a notification bubble when a new printer is added (we have a patch for gnome-volume-manager to do the same thing with cups-autoconfig) + makes it possible to completely drop gnome-volume-manager (we can discuss this in another thread) I've made some packages in home:vuntz:factory-playground. So if you add this repo, you can install the cups-backends and hal-cups-utils packages and see how it goes. Now, I'd really need people who have a local printer that they can plug in the computer to test all this. Does this work? Does this work well? Some things to check: + if you plug a new printer, does it add it? + if you unplug it, does the printer get disabled? + if you plug it again, does the printer get enabled (and no new printer should be created)? + etc. That's really easy to test, and I'd need some feedback quickly if possible so I can try to push this in 11.1 (it's already a bit late, so I might need to bribe a few people). Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Version freeze in factory?
by Vincent Untz 20 Oct '08

20 Oct '08

Hi, I must admit I'm confused. I think we're upstream-version-frozen in factory since Beta 1 [1]. But I also think we have some exception for GNOME, so we can at least update to 2.24.1. Now, it's not clear to me what's covered by the exception. Is this only the official GNOME modules (as in "upstream official"), or is it also the case for the GNOME dependencies? Or is it the complete GNOME:Factory stuff? Eg, I've asked for a freeze break for system-config-printer, and it got approved today. Vincent [1] http://fr.opensuse.org/Roadmap/11.1 mentions: "Milestone: Feature and version freeze for the complete distribution" -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Enable G:F for 11.0 (or Factory - 1)
by Suman Manjunath 20 Oct '08

20 Oct '08

On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 20:14 +0800, Magnus Boman wrote: > Hello, > > At the moment, we do all this work to get the latest GNOME into > GNOME:Factory. At the same time, we don't have a "Latest GNOME" for > poeple that run the currently released version of openSUSE. > I'd like to think that one way of serving our users would be to simply > enable it to build for Factory - 1 version (11.0 as of today) as well. > > This would require a couple of people that watch out for build failures > due to version dependencies that exists in Factory, but not in the > released product, and add/link them to G:F, but make sure they are > disabled for Factory. Interesting.. We do that for Evolution and friends here: https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=GNOME%3AEvolution% 3Asnapshots :) -Suman > > Packages such as hal and d-bus springs to mind. > > Would this be something that we could do? > > I'd be interested in helping out to make sure stuff builds... > > Cheers, > Magnus > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] G:C to Contrib Packagers Special Meeting
by Bryen 20 Oct '08

20 Oct '08

A special meeting will be held on Wednesday, October 22nd at 22:00 UTC to discuss the migration of packages from GNOME:Community repository to the new Contrib repository. Of primary focus in this meeting will be determining at what point a package in G:C will be considered ready for copying into the Contrib repository. This is an excellent opportunity for you to participate and take over maintainership of a package as it enters into Contrib. G:C will still be maintained as the "latest/bleeding edge" repository, but we need to start determining what packages are stable enough to be added to Contrib to be released with the release of the next version of openSUSE> Current Contrib maintainers, we invite you to participate in this meetinga s well to give us your feedback on the process of maintenance in Contrib. See you all there! -- Bryen Yunashko, openSUSE-GNOME Team Member Proud 2008 Candidate for openSUSE Board -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Beta3 - GNOME packages issues
by Magnus Boman 15 Oct '08

15 Oct '08

Hello friends, I don't know how up-to-date this list is, but... There's a deadline on Monday (I think)... I'm not able to fix this myself (no rights) so if *you* have the powers, can you please have a look and perhaps fix some if them.. mboman@mblxsrv01:~> osc gnome ta Downloading data in a cache. It might take a few seconds... Cannot get list of submissions to openSUSE:Factory: Forbidden Package | Details ----------------------------+-------------------------------------------------------------- NetworkManager-pptp | Does not exist in GNOME:Factory while it should WebKitGtk | Does not exist in GNOME:Factory while it should alacarte | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory anjuta | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory at-spi | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory babl | Does not exist in GNOME:Factory while it should bluez-gnome | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory bug-buddy | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory cairo | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory cairomm | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory cheese | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory deskbar-applet | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory devhelp | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory dice | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory eel | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory empathy | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory eog | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory epiphany | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory epiphany-branding-SLED | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory epiphany-branding-openSUSE | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory epiphany-extensions | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory evince | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory evolution-exchange | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory evolution-sharp | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory evolution-webcal | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory file-roller | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory gcalctool | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory gconf-editor | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory gconf2 | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory gconf2-branding-SLED | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory gconf2-branding-SLES | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory gconf2-branding-openSUSE | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory gconfmm | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory gdm | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory gdm-branding-openSUSE | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory gedit | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory gegl | Does not exist in GNOME:Factory while it should ggz-client-libs | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory gimp | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory glib2 | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory glib2-branding-openSUSE | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory glibmm2 | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory gnome-applets | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory gnome-backgrounds | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory gnome-build | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory gnome-common | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory gnome-control-center | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory gnome-desktop | 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| Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory hicolor-icon-theme | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory icu | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory inkscape | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory intltool | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory ipod-sharp | Development project is not GNOME:Factory (Banshee) libbonobo | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory libbonoboui | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory libflashsupport | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory libgail-gnome | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory libgda | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory libglademm | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory libgnome | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory libgnomekbd | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory libgnomemm | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory libgnomeprint | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory libgnomeprintui | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory libgnomesu | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory libgnomeui | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory libgnomeuimm | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory libgtksourceviewmm | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory libgtop | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory libgweather | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory libnl | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory librsvg | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory libsoup | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory libwebkit | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory libwnck | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory libxml++ | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory liferea | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory metacity | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory mousetweaks | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory nautilus | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory nautilus-cd-burner | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory nemiver | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory orca | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory pango | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory pangomm | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory paprefs | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory pessulus | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory pidgin | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory pidgin-branding-openSUSE | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory planner | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory poppler | Development project is not GNOME:Factory (X11:common:Factory) python-gstreamer-0_10 | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory python-gtksourceview | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory python-sqlite2 | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory sabayon | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory seahorse | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory seahorse-plugins | Does not exist in GNOME:Factory while it should swfdec-gnome | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory system-config-printer | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory telepathy-mission-control | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory tomboy | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory totem | Requires a manual merge with openSUSE:Factory totem-pl-parser | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory transmission | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory vinagre | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory vino | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory vte | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory yelp | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory zenity | Needs to be submitted to openSUSE:Factory -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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RE: [opensuse-gnome] Wiki Meeting Summarya
by Andrew Wafaa 12 Oct '08

12 Oct '08

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RE: [opensuse-gnome] Wiki Meeting Summarya
by Andrew Wafaa 12 Oct '08

12 Oct '08

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