Feature changed by: Jeremy Thornton (leebrad) Feature #310567, revision 3 Title: DEB/RPM Integration openFATE: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Package Wishlist: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Jeremy Thornton (leebrad) Description: Of course we all know that linux is great and a reliable system but the latest focus is trying to get new users to adopt it. Is it possible from a developer standpoint to integrate a system including packages like alien for deb etc, that would allow SUSE to user either deb or rpm packages or better yet introduce a brand new file type say .lnx for linux (easier since the intro for SUSE build service) to begin a movement that would allow packages to be cross compatible between linux - systems so long as the kernel version is suppported? This would bring a - unifying and innovative solution to a common issue for linux systems. - Of course a standard would have to be set on the binaries to ensure - proper dependency resolution between systems would be accomplished, but - SUSE might actually be able to lead the way! Just an idea, I would like - to see comments on its possibility. And of course with a possible - acquirer of Novell on the way, it might just be something the new - company would be behind to bring more attention to the product! + systems so long as the kernel version is suppported? + This would bring a unifying and innovative solution to a common issue + for linux systems. Of course a standard would have to be set on the + binaries to ensure proper dependency resolution between systems would + be accomplished, but SUSE might actually be able to lead the way! -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310567

Feature changed by: Jeremy Thornton (leebrad) Feature #310567, revision 5 Title: Integrated alien installer openFATE: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Package Wishlist: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Jeremy Thornton (leebrad) Description: - Of course we all know that linux is great and a reliable system but the - latest focus is trying to get new users to adopt it. Is it possible - from a developer standpoint to integrate a system including packages - like alien for deb etc, that would allow SUSE to user either deb or rpm - packages or better yet introduce a brand new file type say .lnx for - linux (easier since the intro for SUSE build service) to begin a - movement that would allow packages to be cross compatible between linux - systems so long as the kernel version is suppported? - This would bring a unifying and innovative solution to a common issue - for linux systems. Of course a standard would have to be set on the - binaries to ensure proper dependency resolution between systems would - be accomplished, but SUSE might actually be able to lead the way! + Add alien into zypper/yast so that if .deb is attempted to be installed + then a message would launch saying it is not compatible but an attempt + will be made to make it compatible and then alien would automatically + launch behind the scenes do its work and install just like a standard + rpm. + This would not help unify the linux systems, but on an end-user + experience, it is easier than the command line, and for all purposes + considered new users would not know the difference. I understand it + could get messy if a user gets deb happy for installing, but what do + you think? +   +   -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310567

Feature changed by: Ilya Chernykh (Ansus) Feature #310567, revision 7 Title: Integrated alien installer openFATE: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Package Wishlist: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Jeremy Thornton (leebrad) Description: Add alien into zypper/yast so that if .deb is attempted to be installed then a message would launch saying it is not compatible but an attempt will be made to make it compatible and then alien would automatically launch behind the scenes do its work and install just like a standard rpm. This would not help unify the linux systems, but on an end-user experience, it is a little easier than the command line (no learning required - Dangerous! I know), and for all purposes considered new users would not know the difference. I understand it could get messy if a user gets deb happy for installing, but what do you think?     + Discussion: + #1: Ilya Chernykh (ansus) (2010-09-22 19:00:07) + Those developers who ship their software in .deb,  .tgz or .bin formats + openly break with the LSB specification as published by the Linux + Foundation. + It requires use of RPM package format for third-party software: + http://refspecs.linux-foundation.org/LSB_4.0.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-gen... + (http://refspecs.linux-foundation.org/LSB_4.0.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-gen... + 5B/url%5D) the package format itself is also standardised: + http://refspecs.linux-foundation.org/LSB_4.0.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-gen... + The alien utility was designed solely to be used on non-RPM systems to + become compatible with LSB packages. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310567

Feature changed by: Karl Cheng (qantas94heavy) Feature #310567, revision 9 Title: Integrated alien installer - openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed + openSUSE Distribution: Rejected by Karl Cheng (qantas94heavy) + reject reason: Very difficult to maintain, would give false impression + of support for other package types and reduces incentive for developers + to submit packages to openSUSE main repositories. Priority - Requester: Important + Requester: Desirable - Package Wishlist: Unconfirmed - Priority - Requester: Important Requested by: Jeremy Thornton (leebrad) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Add alien into zypper/yast so that if .deb is attempted to be installed then a message would launch saying it is not compatible but an attempt will be made to make it compatible and then alien would automatically launch behind the scenes do its work and install just like a standard rpm. This would not help unify the linux systems, but on an end-user experience, it is a little easier than the command line (no learning required - Dangerous! I know), and for all purposes considered new users would not know the difference. I understand it could get messy if a user gets deb happy for installing, but what do you think?     Discussion: #1: Ilya Chernykh (ansus) (2010-09-22 19:00:07) Those developers who ship their software in .deb,  .tgz or .bin formats openly break with the LSB specification as published by the Linux Foundation. It requires use of RPM package format for third-party software: http://refspecs.linux-foundation.org/LSB_4.0.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-gen... (http://refspecs.linux-foundation.org/LSB_4.0.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-gen... 5B/url%5D) the package format itself is also standardised: http://refspecs.linux-foundation.org/LSB_4.0.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-gen... The alien utility was designed solely to be used on non-RPM systems to become compatible with LSB packages. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310567